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The new AP???

Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 9:22 am
by ChickenMan
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Delaware Freshman Andrew Pierce.. first three game

55 rushes for 484 yrds.. 8.8 per carry

Pierce may not be AP.. but he sure looks like one heck of a RB.

Re: The new AP???

Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 9:43 am
by 93henfan
...and he's only 19. :thumb:

Re: The new AP???

Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 10:52 am
by Pwns
Not sure about that, but UD is due to have one of those years where they come out of nowhere and become one of the most important teams on the national stage, and this guy looks just like what you guys need to do that.

Re: The new AP???

Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 11:06 am
by BDKJMU
Impressive numbers, but its also come against 2 cupcakes and a mediocre MVFC team. Even SDSU doesn't appear to be close to the team they were last year, as they just lost at home to Illinois State, a MVFC team that was 4-7, 3-8, and 6-5 the last 3 seasons and got trounced last week at middle of the road Big Ten Northwestern 37-3. Lets see what the kid does the next 2 weeks when he faces some decent competition before you start annointing him the next AP.

Re: The new AP???

Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 11:18 am
by Screamin_Eagle174
I already started this thread
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Re: The new AP???

Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 11:21 am
by guinzone
He looks very good, however don't rely on him too heavily just yet. I like what YSU is doing with their five running backs: The starter is a sophomore, while the other four are all freshmen. We have scary depth at that position.

Re: The new AP???

Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 11:35 am
by Fact
Yes, Against Dub C, Duquesne and South Dakota State... Three teams with a combined record of 2-5 (only wins against Bucknell and Dayton.) We've seen Delaware teams in the past look good against cupcakes only to fall flat on their face.

Re: The new AP???

Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 1:33 pm
by ChickenMan
Fact wrote: We've seen Delaware teams in the past look good against cupcakes only to fall flat on their face.
The UD team itself may still be questionable.. but anyone who knows football and has seen this kid play his first three games would admit that Pierce has real talent.

Re: The new AP???

Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 2:42 pm
by HenZoneNation
Don't forget he got 200 yards with the other team ready for us to run. Pat didn't play. It's gonna be hard to key on the run when you have the best QB inthe FCS to deal with. He's a great back.

Re: The new AP???

Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 3:28 pm
by 93henfan
Fact wrote:Yes, Against Dub C, Duquesne and South Dakota State... Three teams with a combined record of 2-5 (only wins against Bucknell and Dayton.) We've seen Delaware teams in the past look good against cupcakes only to fall flat on their face.
Nova fans' sphincters have tightened up a little I see. :thumb:

Re: The new AP???

Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 4:35 pm
by bluehenbillk
Looks great so far, next 2 weeks will be interesting, UR & JMU on the road.

Re: The new AP???

Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 7:37 pm
by billsheets
Villanova has fans? Wow,who knew? And this kid is the real deal.just wait for it.

Re: The new AP???

Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 7:27 am
by 89Hen
Fact wrote:We've seen Delaware teams in the past look good against cupcakes only to fall flat on their face.
I agree that it's too early to tell because they haven't gone on the road, and haven't played a CAA game yet, but since 2000, the Hens have started the season 3-0 four times before...

2000 won by a combined 111-21 - made semifinals
2003 won by a combined 134-28 - won NC
2005 won by a combined 111-77 - missed playoffs
2007 won by a combined 128-54 - NC runner-up
2010 won by a combined 86-9...

Fewest points scored, but fewest points allowed, by far. What does this mean? Absolutely nothing. ;)

Re: The new AP???

Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 10:18 am
by bluehenbillk
AP is this weeks CAA Offensive Player of the Week and, of course the Rookie of the Week again.

Re: The new AP???

Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 10:30 am
by GannonFan
89Hen wrote:
Fact wrote:We've seen Delaware teams in the past look good against cupcakes only to fall flat on their face.
I agree that it's too early to tell because they haven't gone on the road, and haven't played a CAA game yet, but since 2000, the Hens have started the season 3-0 four times before...

2000 won by a combined 111-21 - made semifinals
2003 won by a combined 134-28 - won NC
2005 won by a combined 111-77 - missed playoffs
2007 won by a combined 128-54 - NC runner-up
2010 won by a combined 86-9...

Fewest points scored, but fewest points allowed, by far. What does this mean? Absolutely nothing. ;)
Wait a minute, you're saying that Fact's post was actually, er, non-factual???? :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Re: The new AP???

Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 10:31 am
by 93henfan
bluehenbillk wrote:Rookie of the Week again.
x 3

Re: The new AP???

Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 10:39 am
by SunCoastBlueHen
From the CAA site...
Pierce also becomes the first player in CAA Football history to earn weekly honors in three-straight weeks.
:thumb:

Re: The new AP???

Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 11:24 am
by 89Hen
GannonFan wrote:
89Hen wrote:I agree that it's too early to tell because they haven't gone on the road, and haven't played a CAA game yet, but since 2000, the Hens have started the season 3-0 four times before...

2000 won by a combined 111-21 - made semifinals
2003 won by a combined 134-28 - won NC
2005 won by a combined 111-77 - missed playoffs
2007 won by a combined 128-54 - NC runner-up
2010 won by a combined 86-9...

Fewest points scored, but fewest points allowed, by far. What does this mean? Absolutely nothing. ;)
Wait a minute, you're saying that Fact's post was actually, er, non-factual???? :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Yeah, I'm just not sure you can infer a whole lot from the stats. The one year they didn't make the playoffs though, the avearge margin of victory was 11, the other years it was 30, 35, 25 and this year 26. We'll know a whole lot more after the next two weeks.

Re: The new AP???

Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 1:49 pm
by blueballs
He's only about 8800 yards and 120 TD's behind the original AP so he's making progress... :o

... seriously though, the kid looks like the real deal and diversifies UD's attack in such a way that is bound to make them awfully tough to defend.

Re: The new AP???

Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 1:50 pm
by Fact
89Hen wrote:
GannonFan wrote:
Wait a minute, you're saying that Fact's post was actually, er, non-factual???? :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Yeah, I'm just not sure you can infer a whole lot from the stats. The one year they didn't make the playoffs though, the avearge margin of victory was 11, the other years it was 30, 35, 25 and this year 26. We'll know a whole lot more after the next two weeks.
I was actually making reference to 2008 when you took a fairly decent Maryland team to the wire, smoked Dub C (easy to do, Villanova beat them 64-0 in 1997 despite the game being called at half,) barely lost to Furman (at Furman) and then destroyed what turned out to be an okay Albany team. Then the truth came out that you guys were utterly impotent on offense.

Re: The new AP???

Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 1:54 pm
by 89Hen
Fact wrote:We've seen Delaware teams in the past look good against cupcakes only to fall flat on their face.
Fact wrote:I was actually making reference to 2008 when you took a fairly decent Maryland team to the wire, smoked Dub C (easy to do, Villanova beat them 64-0 in 1997 despite the game being called at half,) barely lost to Furman (at Furman) and then destroyed what turned out to be an okay Albany team. Then the truth came out that you guys were utterly impotent on offense.
Seriously? I was kinda giving you a pass in showing that one year the Hens in fact did start 3-0 but missed the playoffs, but what are you talking about in 2008? The offense was completely inept from the Maryland opener. A 2-2 start compared to 3-0? :|

Re: The new AP???

Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 2:18 pm
by Rob Iola
Fact wrote:
89Hen wrote: Yeah, I'm just not sure you can infer a whole lot from the stats. The one year they didn't make the playoffs though, the avearge margin of victory was 11, the other years it was 30, 35, 25 and this year 26. We'll know a whole lot more after the next two weeks.
I was actually making reference to 2008 when you took a fairly decent Maryland team to the wire, smoked Dub C (easy to do, Villanova beat them 64-0 in 1997 despite the game being called at half,) barely lost to Furman (at Furman) and then destroyed what turned out to be an okay Albany team. Then the truth came out that you guys were utterly impotent on offense.
This year we have this: Image
Not this from 2008: Image
Big difference...

Re: The new AP???

Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 2:21 pm
by 93henfan
89Hen wrote:
Fact wrote:We've seen Delaware teams in the past look good against cupcakes only to fall flat on their face.
Fact wrote:I was actually making reference to 2008 when you took a fairly decent Maryland team to the wire, smoked Dub C (easy to do, Villanova beat them 64-0 in 1997 despite the game being called at half,) barely lost to Furman (at Furman) and then destroyed what turned out to be an okay Albany team. Then the truth came out that you guys were utterly impotent on offense.
Seriously? I was kinda giving you a pass in showing that one year the Hens in fact did start 3-0 but missed the playoffs, but what are you talking about in 2008? The offense was completely inept from the Maryland opener. A 2-2 start compared to 3-0? :|
Yeah. That Maryland game was maddening. The Terps were begging us to beat them and we could not move the ball at all. That was the game where nobody knew what to expect from Schoenhoft and you just cringed once you found out. Our offense was DOA that year. 2008: The year of the converted QB by committee. I still can't look back at it and laugh... yet.

Re: The new AP???

Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 2:33 pm
by GannonFan
89Hen wrote:
Fact wrote:We've seen Delaware teams in the past look good against cupcakes only to fall flat on their face.
Fact wrote:I was actually making reference to 2008 when you took a fairly decent Maryland team to the wire, smoked Dub C (easy to do, Villanova beat them 64-0 in 1997 despite the game being called at half,) barely lost to Furman (at Furman) and then destroyed what turned out to be an okay Albany team. Then the truth came out that you guys were utterly impotent on offense.
Seriously? I was kinda giving you a pass in showing that one year the Hens in fact did start 3-0 but missed the playoffs, but what are you talking about in 2008? The offense was completely inept from the Maryland opener. A 2-2 start compared to 3-0? :|
Agreed - it was obvious from the second half of that opening game against Maryland that we didn't have much of an offense. And heck, the Furman game was just a litany of QB turnovers. If you had to wait until CAA play to figure out that we didn't have an offense in '08 then you just really didn't know what to look for. Never fear, though, we have a QB this year. And now all of a sudden a guy who could make us forget about Omar Cuff as well as a pretty good defense as well. This ain't '08 (hey, that's pretty catchy!).

Re: The new AP???

Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2010 5:52 am
by Zymergy
Must also note his 200yrds came mostly in the first half. I think he gained like 35yrds in 3rd qtr, and then he was done for the day after he hit 200yrds and the other running backs took over from there.