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1. Villanova Wildcats (94) 3-1 3,567 1
2. Appalachian State Mountaineers (24) 4-0 3,466 2
3. James Madison Dukes (22) 3-0 3,381 3
4. Jacksonville State Gamecocks (5) 4-0 3,166 4
5. Delaware Blue Hens (1) 4-0 3,021 7
6. Stephen F. Austin Lumberjacks 3-1 2,905 6
7. William & Mary Tribe 3-1 2,642 8
8. Massachusetts Minutemen 3-1 2,439 11
9. South Carolina State Bulldogs 2-1 2,194 12
10. Montana State Bobcats 3-1 2,158 17
11. Richmond Spiders 1-2 1,848 5
12. Montana Grizzlies 2-2 1,755 14
13. North Dakota State Bison 3-1 1,710 18
14. New Hampshire Wildcats 2-2 1,606 16
15. Cal Poly Mustangs 3-1 1,530 20
16. Eastern Washington Eagles 2-2 1,323 9
17. Northern Iowa Panthers 1-2 1,018 15
18. Furman Paladins 2-1 1,006 23
19. Georgia Southern Eagles 3-1 802 NR
20. Texas State Bobcats 3-1 693 NR
21. Elon Phoenix 1-3 689 10
22. Youngstown State Penguins 3-1 529 NR
23. Illinois State Redbirds 3-1 522 NR
24. Southern Illinois Salukis 1-3 421 13
25. Liberty Flames 2-2 332 22

Others receiving votes: McNeese State 324, Southeast Missouri State 279, Northern Arizona 273, South Dakota 238, Central Arkansas 235, Wofford 235, Penn 217, Weber State 149, Western Illinois 129, Chattanooga 127, Brown 77, South Dakota State 68, Grambling State 55, Alcorn State 39, Bethune-Cookman 38, Alabama State 29, Georgetown 23, Delaware State 23, Sacramento State 23, Jacksonville 22, Yale 17, Old Dominion 15, Robert Morris 15, Florida A&M 14, Hampton 12, North Dakota 12, Harvard 10, Northern Colorado 5, Dayton 4, Lehigh 4, Dartmouth 3, Tennessee State 3, Gardner-Webb 3, Fordham 2, Georgia State 2, Texas Southern 1, Colgate 1, Prairie View A&M 1.

∞∞∞ wrote:1. Villanova Wildcats (94) 3-1 3,567 1
2. Appalachian State Mountaineers (24) 4-0 3,466 2
3. James Madison Dukes (22) 3-0 3,381 3
4. Jacksonville State Gamecocks (5) 4-0 3,166 4
5. Delaware Blue Hens (1) 4-0 3,021 7
6. Stephen F. Austin Lumberjacks 3-1 2,905 6
7. William & Mary Tribe 3-1 2,642 8
8. Massachusetts Minutemen 3-1 2,439 11
9. South Carolina State Bulldogs 2-1 2,194 12
10. Montana State Bobcats 3-1 2,158 17
11. Richmond Spiders 1-2 1,848 5
12. Montana Grizzlies 2-2 1,755 14
13. North Dakota State Bison 3-1 1,710 18
14. New Hampshire Wildcats 2-2 1,606 16
15. Cal Poly Mustangs 3-1 1,530 20
16. Eastern Washington Eagles 2-2 1,323 9
17. Northern Iowa Panthers 1-2 1,018 15
18. Furman Paladins 2-1 1,006 23
19. Georgia Southern Eagles 3-1 802 NR
20. Texas State Bobcats 3-1 693 NR
21. Elon Phoenix 1-3 689 10
22. Youngstown State Penguins 3-1 529 NR
23. Illinois State Redbirds 3-1 522 NR
24. Southern Illinois Salukis 1-3 421 13
25. Liberty Flames 2-2 332 22

Others receiving votes: McNeese State 324, Southeast Missouri State 279, Northern Arizona 273, South Dakota 238, Central Arkansas 235, Wofford 235, Penn 217, Weber State 149, Western Illinois 129, Chattanooga 127, Brown 77, South Dakota State 68, Grambling State 55, Alcorn State 39, Bethune-Cookman 38, Alabama State 29, Georgetown 23, Delaware State 23, Sacramento State 23, Jacksonville 22, Yale 17, Old Dominion 15, Robert Morris 15, Florida A&M 14, Hampton 12, North Dakota 12, Harvard 10, Northern Colorado 5, Dayton 4, Lehigh 4, Dartmouth 3, Tennessee State 3, Gardner-Webb 3, Fordham 2, Georgia State 2, Texas Southern 1, Colgate 1, Prairie View A&M 1.

ToTheLeft wrote:

∞∞∞ wrote:1. Villanova Wildcats (94) 3-1 3,567 1
2. Appalachian State Mountaineers (24) 4-0 3,466 2
3. James Madison Dukes (22) 3-0 3,381 3
4. Jacksonville State Gamecocks (5) 4-0 3,166 4
5. Delaware Blue Hens (1) 4-0 3,021 7
6. Stephen F. Austin Lumberjacks 3-1 2,905 6
7. William & Mary Tribe 3-1 2,642 8
8. Massachusetts Minutemen 3-1 2,439 11
9. South Carolina State Bulldogs 2-1 2,194 12
10. Montana State Bobcats 3-1 2,158 17
11. Richmond Spiders 1-2 1,848 5
12. Montana Grizzlies 2-2 1,755 14
13. North Dakota State Bison 3-1 1,710 18
14. New Hampshire Wildcats 2-2 1,606 16
15. Cal Poly Mustangs 3-1 1,530 20
16. Eastern Washington Eagles 2-2 1,323 9
17. Northern Iowa Panthers 1-2 1,018 15
18. Furman Paladins 2-1 1,006 23
19. Georgia Southern Eagles 3-1 802 NR
20. Texas State Bobcats 3-1 693 NR
21. Elon Phoenix 1-3 689 10
22. Youngstown State Penguins 3-1 529 NR
23. Illinois State Redbirds 3-1 522 NR
24. Southern Illinois Salukis 1-3 421 13
25. Liberty Flames 2-2 332 22

Others receiving votes: McNeese State 324, Southeast Missouri State 279, Northern Arizona 273, South Dakota 238, Central Arkansas 235, Wofford 235, Penn 217, Weber State 149, Western Illinois 129, Chattanooga 127, Brown 77, South Dakota State 68, Grambling State 55, Alcorn State 39, Bethune-Cookman 38, Alabama State 29, Georgetown 23, Delaware State 23, Sacramento State 23, Jacksonville 22, Yale 17, Old Dominion 15, Robert Morris 15, Florida A&M 14, Hampton 12, North Dakota 12, Harvard 10, Northern Colorado 5, Dayton 4, Lehigh 4, Dartmouth 3, Tennessee State 3, Gardner-Webb 3, Fordham 2, Georgia State 2, Texas Southern 1, Colgate 1, Prairie View A&M 1.

You forgot a couple.

ToTheLeft wrote:

∞∞∞ wrote:1. Villanova Wildcats (94) 3-1 3,567 1
2. Appalachian State Mountaineers (24) 4-0 3,466 2
3. James Madison Dukes (22) 3-0 3,381 3
4. Jacksonville State Gamecocks (5) 4-0 3,166 4
5. Delaware Blue Hens (1) 4-0 3,021 7
6. Stephen F. Austin Lumberjacks 3-1 2,905 6
7. William & Mary Tribe 3-1 2,642 8
8. Massachusetts Minutemen 3-1 2,439 11
9. South Carolina State Bulldogs 2-1 2,194 12
10. Montana State Bobcats 3-1 2,158 17
11. Richmond Spiders 1-2 1,848 5
12. Montana Grizzlies 2-2 1,755 14
13. North Dakota State Bison 3-1 1,710 18
14. New Hampshire Wildcats 2-2 1,606 16
15. Cal Poly Mustangs 3-1 1,530 20
16. Eastern Washington Eagles 2-2 1,323 9
17. Northern Iowa Panthers 1-2 1,018 15
18. Furman Paladins 2-1 1,006 23
19. Georgia Southern Eagles 3-1 802 NR
20. Texas State Bobcats 3-1 693 NR
21. Elon Phoenix 1-3 689 10
22. Youngstown State Penguins 3-1 529 NR
23. Illinois State Redbirds 3-1 522 NR
24. Southern Illinois Salukis 1-3 421 13
25. Liberty Flames 2-2 332 22

Others receiving votes: McNeese State 324, Southeast Missouri State 279, Northern Arizona 273, South Dakota 238, Central Arkansas 235, Wofford 235, Penn 217, Weber State 149, Western Illinois 129, Chattanooga 127, Brown 77, South Dakota State 68, Grambling State 55, Alcorn State 39, Bethune-Cookman 38, Alabama State 29, Georgetown 23, Delaware State 23, Sacramento State 23, Jacksonville 22, Yale 17, Old Dominion 15, Robert Morris 15, Florida A&M 14, Hampton 12, North Dakota 12, Harvard 10, Northern Colorado 5, Dayton 4, Lehigh 4, Dartmouth 3, Tennessee State 3, Gardner-Webb 3, Fordham 2, Georgia State 2, Texas Southern 1, Colgate 1, Prairie View A&M 1.

If you're going to shake your head about Jacksonville, you've got to shake it about ODU. I can almost guarantee that anybody who has ODU in there has Jacksonville right above them. They're 3-1 with two blowouts, a win over ODU and a loss to the No. 2 (a blowout loss)

Seriously, Elon?

Yeah, Richmond is ridiculously high.

And I think Jacksonville got votes from someone trying to vote for Jax State.

And yes, ODU doesn't deserve votes either.

Shameful poll this is. It's terrible, something really needs to be done about it.

mcveyrl wrote: If you're going to shake your head about Jacksonville, you've got to shake it about ODU. I can almost guarantee that anybody who has ODU in there has Jacksonville right above them. They're 3-1 with two blowouts, a win over ODU and a loss to the No. 2 (a blowout loss)

Gotta agree, I have no idea how we keep getting votes. I know Rich Radford does vote in this thing though, and he's voted for us a few times. I don't think we deserve ANY vote right now, but there's a realy possibility that we might enter this ranking for the first time ever if we win our next three (Gardner-Webb, Cal Poly, Georgia State), especially if JU and W&M keep winning. We'd be 5-2 with a win over a ranked opponent...and there's a good possibility of this since they're all at home. So from the if perspective, I can see how we're getting votes.

TSN once again proves that many of their voters smoke crack regularly. The really need to stop their poll, regroup and start fresh next year.

∞∞∞ wrote:

mcveyrl wrote: If you're going to shake your head about Jacksonville, you've got to shake it about ODU. I can almost guarantee that anybody who has ODU in there has Jacksonville right above them. They're 3-1 with two blowouts, a win over ODU and a loss to the No. 2 (a blowout loss)

Gotta agree, I have no idea how we keep getting votes. I know Rich Radford does vote in this thing though, and he's voted for us a few times. I don't think we deserve ANY vote right now, but there's a realy possibility that we might enter this ranking for the first time ever if we win our next three (Gardner-Webb, Cal Poly, Georgia State), especially if JU and W&M keep winning. We'd be 5-2 with a win over a ranked opponent...and there's a good possibility of this since they're all at home. So from the if perspective, I can see how we're getting votes.

I would agree, but for the fact that according to this poll the Cal Poly game will be the only upset of the bunch. You guys are "ranked" higher than G-W and you should be favored against Ga. St.

Having said that, the way the season's playing out, 5-2 will probably get you in the Top 25.

4 different PL (Gtown, Lehigh, Fordham, and Colgate) teams getting votes, really? Fordham lost to Bryant and a D-II team!

4 Ivy teams get votes as well (Brown, Yale, Harvard, Dartmouth), why? Yale eeks out a win vs Gtown and Harvard beats HC to establish credibility?

4 'other' MEAC teams (not including #9 SCSU) get votes in the poll (Bethune-Cookman, Delaware State, FAMU, Hampton), is this a mistake? DSU is is 0-3!?!

However, just one NEC gets any votes! I wonder why ... ?

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Liberty earns 223 total points from voters and Robert Morris has just 15 points - how can they be so far apart?

SIU (1-3) has just 1 win (vs sub D-I Quincy) and is ranked #24? Come on people!

89Hen wrote:TSN once again proves that many of their voters smoke crack regularly. The really need to stop their poll, regroup and start fresh next year.

Agreed! This madness should have no credibility whatsoever!

Thank God we have the GPI coming soon to balance out this insanity.

∞∞∞ wrote:I have no idea how we keep getting votes.

Jay Bilas and his family.

Dukie95 wrote:Thank God we have the GPI coming soon to balance out this insanity.

Any more room under that chair...I was just about to post something along those lines.

AZGrizFan wrote:

ToTheLeft wrote:

You forgot a couple.

What's wrong with having UNI in there? We have only played three games, and have a 2 point loss to a top 10 team, and an FBS team.

Who else would you rank instead?

Dukie95 wrote:Thank God we have the GPI coming soon to balance out this insanity.

I just crapped in the outhouse, beter chance of hitting things then the GPI does....

DJH wrote:

AZGrizFan wrote:

You forgot a couple.

What's wrong with having UNI in there? We have only played games, and have a 2 point loss to a top 10 team, and an FBS team.

Who else would you rank instead?

Montana...because they won more recently.....apparently.

Looks like the poll is more about the reputations of last year than the realities of this year...

DJH wrote:

AZGrizFan wrote:

You forgot a couple.

What's wrong with having UNI in there? We have only played three games, and have a 2 point loss to a top 10 team, and an FBS team.

Who else would you rank instead?

How about WIU? 3-1 with only an FBS loss to Purdue...
How about SEMO? 3-1 with only an FBS loss to Ball State....
How about Central Arkansas? 3-1 with only and FBS loss to Tulsa...

And that's just off the top of my head.

Or NAU

AZ, are you completely disregarding schedule strength when you are making your rankings? Good god.

dbackjon wrote:Or NAU

Shame on ALL of you. Those that choose to ignore history are doomed to repeat it.

2009 - NAU goes 5-2 beating a bunch of patsies and ends up 5-6

2008 - NAU goes 6-1 beating a bunch of patsies and ends up 6-5

2007 - NAU goes 5-3 beating a bunch of patsies and ends up 6-5

2006 - NAU goes 2-2 beating a couple of patsies and ends up 6-5

2005 - NAU goes 2-1 beating a couple of patsies and ends up 3-8

How many times can the con man have you bet $1 only to have him lift the shell to show you that you've been duped.

UM is 2-2 with one D-I win. EWU is 2-2 with one D-I win. EWU beat UM head to head. Why is Montana that high? I think EWU is too high even. EWU at like 20 with UM at 21 would make much more sense.

DJH wrote:AZ, are you completely disregarding schedule strength when you are making your rankings? Good god.

Using your logic we should have ranked SUU a couple years ago when they went 0-11 with the toughest schedule in I-AA.