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USD to the MVFC!?!?
Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 10:20 pm
by T-Dog
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A process that pointed the University of South Dakota toward sending its athletic programs to the Big Sky Conference has taken an abrupt turn.
At a news conference today in Vermillion, the school is expected to announce that it will join the Missouri Valley Football Conference while honoring its commitment to the Summit League in all other sports.
Since South Dakota State also belongs to Missouri Valley Football and the Summit, today’s announcement means the Coyotes and Jackrabbits will compete in the same league for all sports for the first time since they went NCAA Division I.
USD officials would not comment Wednesday on the 11th-hour negotiations, but word spread quickly that the school would be turning its back on the Big Sky, which welcomed the University of North Dakota and Southern Utah on Monday.
UND athletic director Brian Faison hinted during a UND coaches radio show Wednesday night that the Coyotes were not going to fall in line with the Sioux on Big Sky membership.
Re: USD to the MVFC!?!?
Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 10:31 pm
by pantherrob82
Sounds like a done deal. Does this lead to a 2 division split.
Re: USD to the MVFC!?!?
Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 10:32 pm
by Thumper 76
Re: USD to the MVFC!?!?
Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 10:38 pm
by JayJ79
pantherrob82 wrote:Sounds like a done deal. Does this lead to a 2 division split.
or will YSU end up moving to another conference?
Re: USD to the MVFC!?!?
Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 10:41 pm
by pantherrob82
JayJ79 wrote:pantherrob82 wrote:Sounds like a done deal. Does this lead to a 2 division split.
or will YSU end up moving to another conference?
After making the last 3 trips out there, I doubt it.
Re: USD to the MVFC!?!?
Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 10:42 pm
by pantherrob82
YSU
IN St
SIU
WIU
Il St
NDSU
SDSU
USD
UNI
MSU
Re: USD to the MVFC!?!?
Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 11:03 pm
by JayJ79
pantherrob82 wrote:YSU
IN St
SIU
WIU
Il St
NDSU
SDSU
USD
UNI
MSU
would be an interesting breakdown.
wonder how that would work... play the other 4 in your division every year, and then 4 of the 5 in the other division? Or would they go with a 7-game schedule (3 of the 5 out of the other division) to give more OOC flexibility? Would kind of be nice to have 4 OOC games to work with for UNI (2 FBS money games, buying a home game with someone, and 1 slot left to work in quality home-and-home series)
Though it would definitely be odd to have seasons where the Panthers and Salukis don't face off.
Re: USD to the MVFC!?!?
Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 11:07 pm
by pantherrob82
JayJ79 wrote:pantherrob82 wrote:YSU
IN St
SIU
WIU
Il St
NDSU
SDSU
USD
UNI
MSU
would be an interesting breakdown.
wonder how that would work... play the other 4 in your division every year, and then 4 of the 5 in the other division? Or would they go with a 7-game schedule (3 of the 5 out of the other division) to give more OOC flexibility? Would kind of be nice to have 4 OOC games to work with for UNI (2 FBS money games, buying a home game with someone, and 1 slot left to work in quality home-and-home series)
Though it would definitely be odd to have seasons where the Panthers and Salukis don't face off.
I would like to play everyone, but I really wonder if the idea was to keep the league at a stable size while appeasing YSU. Doing two divisions would lighten the load on travel. If we are going to do two divisions I would like to add two more schools. Too bad we couldn't convince two schools out of Drake, Dayton, and Butler to go scholly.
Re: USD to the MVFC!?!?
Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 11:29 pm
by SUUTbird
Well this is sort of an unexpected turn of events, chances North Dakota may change their minds on the Big Sky?
Re: USD to the MVFC!?!?
Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 11:42 pm
by SuperHornet
At this point, is it even possible for UND to welch?
(Please welch!!!)
Re: USD to the MVFC!?!?
Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 5:41 am
by Willie
It just gives Idaho more reason to come back.
Re: USD to the MVFC!?!?
Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 5:49 am
by weberwildcat
Maybe San Jose St can choose Big Sky or MVFC
Re: USD to the MVFC!?!?
Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 6:14 am
by MSUBear42
Yeah, cause travel wasn't already craptastic enough...
This conference blows. Too much competition.
Re: USD to the MVFC!?!?
Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 6:25 am
by FargoBison
MSUBear42 wrote:Yeah, cause travel wasn't already craptastic enough...
This conference blows. Too much competition.
USD is in the extreme southeastern tip of SD, it shouldn't have much of an effect on travel.
Re: USD to the MVFC!?!?
Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 6:32 am
by MSUBear42
FargoBison wrote:MSUBear42 wrote:Yeah, cause travel wasn't already craptastic enough...
This conference blows. Too much competition.
USD is in the extreme southeastern tip of SD, it shouldn't have much of an effect on travel.
Guess I need to do more research.
Re: USD to the MVFC!?!?
Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 6:32 am
by AZGrizFan
This makes the BSC's offer to UND that much worse. How do you accept ONE of those two without having the other locked down?
BSC just got punked, big time. Having one UXD school looks fucking retarded on a map.
Re: USD to the MVFC!?!?
Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 6:38 am
by MSUBear42
Let's all keep in mind that even though USD may be interested, doesn't it have to pass a vote by the current ADs and Presidents???
The league schedule is already bad enough. We don't need another conference game, we need more OOC games so that we can actually play some home games! Missouri State is only going to have 5 home games AGAIN next year because of the MVFC schedule.
If anything else, the MVFC needs to DROP schools.
Re: USD to the MVFC!?!?
Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 7:06 am
by BisonBacker
MSUBear42 wrote:Let's all keep in mind that even though USD may be interested, doesn't it have to pass a vote by the current ADs and Presidents???
The league schedule is already bad enough. We don't need another conference game, we need more OOC games so that we can actually play some home games! Missouri State is only going to have 5 home games AGAIN next year because of the MVFC schedule.
If anything else, the MVFC needs to DROP schools.
It's to early in the morning to be drinking that heavily
Re: USD to the MVFC!?!?
Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 7:12 am
by clenz
Wow, I just did a HUGE post for another thread.....this thread voids that whole post I guess.
Re: USD to the MVFC!?!?
Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 7:17 am
by MSUBear42
BisonBacker wrote:MSUBear42 wrote:Let's all keep in mind that even though USD may be interested, doesn't it have to pass a vote by the current ADs and Presidents???
The league schedule is already bad enough. We don't need another conference game, we need more OOC games so that we can actually play some home games! Missouri State is only going to have 5 home games AGAIN next year because of the MVFC schedule.
If anything else, the MVFC needs to DROP schools.
It's to early in the morning to be drinking that heavily
Are you trying to say you''d like just playing 2 non conference games every year? I just don't see the MVFC doing divisions with just 10 teams.
Re: USD to the MVFC!?!?
Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 7:21 am
by weberwildcat
Will UND try and go MVFC?
Re: USD to the MVFC!?!?
Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 7:28 am
by clenz
MSUBear42 wrote:BisonBacker wrote:
It's to early in the morning to be drinking that heavily
Are you trying to say you''d like just playing 2 non conference games every year? I just don't see the MVFC doing divisions with just 10 teams.
I don't like the conference playing just two OOC games, and I'm not sure it would happen.
That means the teams would play one FBS school (more often than not) and one FCS or lower OOC game. That means teams are going to lose a home game, possibly....amidst other pretty big implications.
I see a 5 team division, with 3 OOC games, and 3 games against the other division.
The only issue there is the "rivalry" games.
SIU/UNI and whatever else. The SIU/UNI is the only game I really care about saving. UNI/YSU maybe, but that's a meh for me.
Re: USD to the MVFC!?!?
Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 7:37 am
by MSUBear42
I like that way much better, should this move happen.
Re: USD to the MVFC!?!?
Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 7:47 am
by Theee Catrabbit
weberwildcat wrote:Will UND try and go MVFC?
Credit Tom Douple with this from the Summit League, he worked his ass off with the MVFC to make this happen. Here's a write up from the AL website. Oh you stupid sioux, with your dumb name controversy. How will 13 teams work in the Big Sky?
Jackrabbit Nation will be split, but for the most part the Summit needed USD and got rid of SUU travel expenses. Really collapsed our footprint a little in the Summit, now only Oral Bob is a distance. That's a win.
As for football the Coyotes have two natural rivalries, and are trying to build one with UNI. It's good for the confernce in my opinion.
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Re: USD to the MVFC!?!?
Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 7:50 am
by clenz
Theee Catrabbit wrote:weberwildcat wrote:Will UND try and go MVFC?
Credit Tom Douple with this from the Summit League, he worked his ass off with the MVFC to make this happen. Here's a write up from the AL website. Oh you stupid sioux, with your dumb name controversy. How will 13 teams work in the Big Sky?
Jackrabbit Nation will be split, but for the most part the Summit needed USD and got rid of SUU travel expenses. Really collapsed our footprint a little in the Summit, now only Oral Bob is a distance. That's a win.
As for football the Coyotes have two natural rivalries, and are trying to build one with UNI. It's good for the confernce in my opinion.
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I've been pretty "against" USD in the MVFC, but I think this could be a good move. It "might" be protection against the realignment crap in the future.
