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Why should App State be seeded/ranked ahead of EWU?
Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 1:56 pm
by dbackjon
Assuming EWU wins (Idaho State) and App loses (Florida), both would be 9-2.
Both would have a loss to FBS (EWU's top 20, ASU's not ranked).
Both would have a loss on the road to conference mate (EWU's top 5-10, ASU's top 25 if they win)
EWU's OOC was a solid DII, and a good SUU.
ASU's OOC was a non-schollie, and a horrid NCCU.
So why should ASU be ranked ahead of EWU??
Re: Why should App State be seeded/ranked ahead of EWU?
Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 1:58 pm
by Ivytalk
Because App State draws 30,000 a game.

Re: Why should App State be seeded/ranked ahead of EWU?
Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 1:59 pm
by nwFL Griz
They shouldn't.
Re: Why should App State be seeded/ranked ahead of EWU?
Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 1:59 pm
by catbob
If MSU beats UM in Missoula, I think MSU would be seeded ahead of EWU as well.
Re: Why should App State be seeded/ranked ahead of EWU?
Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 1:59 pm
by bandl
Are we just going to ignore the remainder of the games, or only look at the games you picked for this discussion?
Re: Why should App State be seeded/ranked ahead of EWU?
Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 2:01 pm
by 89Hen
bandl wrote:Are we just going to ignore the remainder of the games, or only look at the games you picked for this discussion?

Re: Why should App State be seeded/ranked ahead of EWU?
Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 2:01 pm
by dbackjon
catbob wrote:If MSU beats UM in Missoula, I think MSU would be seeded ahead of EWU as well.
Great point. MSU would be 9-2 as well.
1 point FBS loss (to unranked team).
Beat Non-schollie and D2
Wins over top ten EWU, top twenty Montana
Bad loss to decent NAU, when NAU had QB healthy.
Re: Why should App State be seeded/ranked ahead of EWU?
Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 2:03 pm
by dbackjon
bandl wrote:Are we just going to ignore the remainder of the games, or only look at the games you picked for this discussion?
No, please bring those in as well for discussion points. Looking at their results, I found them to be mostly a wash.
Re: Why should App State be seeded/ranked ahead of EWU?
Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 2:06 pm
by Skjellyfetti
"a solid D-II"

Re: Why should App State be seeded/ranked ahead of EWU?
Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 2:06 pm
by GannonFan
bandl wrote:Are we just going to ignore the remainder of the games, or only look at the games you picked for this discussion?
I actually just kinda stopped reading after he called SUU good.
Re: Why should App State be seeded/ranked ahead of EWU?
Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 2:06 pm
by catbob
I just think the Big Sky AQer will get a seed over the "co-champion", especially considering they won the head to head matchup.
Re: Why should App State be seeded/ranked ahead of EWU?
Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 2:11 pm
by Skjellyfetti
catbob wrote:I just think the Big Sky AQer will get a seed over the "co-champion", especially considering they won the head to head matchup.
I agree.
Re: Why should App State be seeded/ranked ahead of EWU?
Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 2:13 pm
by bandl
My question didn't even make much sense the way I worded it...glad some of you understood what I meant

Re: Why should App State be seeded/ranked ahead of EWU?
Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 2:13 pm
by Silenoz
Because EWU has gotten the sh#t kicked out of them in a loss, ASU has not... yet
Re: Why should App State be seeded/ranked ahead of EWU?
Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 2:14 pm
by Silenoz
Skjellyfetti wrote:"a solid D-II"

People hate when FBS fans laugh at the thought of playing "solid" FCS teams. Central Washington is better than 1/3 of FCS
Re: Why should App State be seeded/ranked ahead of EWU?
Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 2:17 pm
by Skjellyfetti
Also, these dbackjohn threads calling Appalachian State overrated always remind me he still owes me a hat for our bet last year... on whether App State or Northern Arizona was a top-10 team. Pay up stfu.
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Re: Why should App State be seeded/ranked ahead of EWU?
Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 2:18 pm
by dbackjon
Silenoz wrote:Skjellyfetti wrote:"a solid D-II"

People hate when FBS fans laugh at the thought of playing "solid" FCS teams. Central Washington is better than 1/3 of FCS
CWU finished regular season 8-3. They would win the Pioneer, be competitive in the Patriot and MEAC.
Re: Why should App State be seeded/ranked ahead of EWU?
Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 2:19 pm
by dbackjon
Skjellyfetti wrote:Also, these dbackjohn threads calling Appalachian State overrated always remind me he still owes me a hat for our bet last year... on whether App State or Northern Arizona was a top-10 team. Pay up stfu.
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I sent you a PM asking for your address, but you never responded, Che
Re: Why should App State be seeded/ranked ahead of EWU?
Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 2:20 pm
by Skjellyfetti
Silenoz wrote:Skjellyfetti wrote:"a solid D-II"

People hate when FBS fans laugh at the thought of playing "solid" FCS teams. Central Washington is better than 1/3 of FCS
They aren't even a top-25 D-II team:
http://www.d2football.com/top25poll/11/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Does Auburn count Chattanooga as a win over a "solid D-IAA"? You think it makes any sense for them to try to count it as a solid win?
Re: Why should App State be seeded/ranked ahead of EWU?
Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 2:21 pm
by dbackjon
GannonFan wrote:bandl wrote:Are we just going to ignore the remainder of the games, or only look at the games you picked for this discussion?
I actually just kinda stopped reading after he called SUU good.
6-5, with two close FBS losses, close loss to EWU and NAU.
Only one bad game - to Texas State
Re: Why should App State be seeded/ranked ahead of EWU?
Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 2:22 pm
by dbackjon
Skjellyfetti wrote:Silenoz wrote:
People hate when FBS fans laugh at the thought of playing "solid" FCS teams. Central Washington is better than 1/3 of FCS
They aren't even a top-25 D-II team:
http://www.d2football.com/top25poll/11/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Does Auburn count Chattanooga as a win over a "solid D-IAA"? You think it makes any sense for them to try to count it as a solid win?
Yes. Chatty is a good team. Not a great team, not a sucky WCU-like team.
Re: Why should App State be seeded/ranked ahead of EWU?
Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 2:23 pm
by 89Hen
dbackjon wrote:GannonFan wrote:
I actually just kinda stopped reading after he called SUU good.
6-5, with two close FBS losses, close loss to EWU and NAU.
Only one bad game - to Texas State

If this weren't the third straight year we had to listen to how good SUU's many losses were, we might believe you.
Re: Why should App State be seeded/ranked ahead of EWU?
Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 2:25 pm
by dbackjon
89Hen wrote:dbackjon wrote:
6-5, with two close FBS losses, close loss to EWU and NAU.
Only one bad game - to Texas State

If this weren't the third straight year we had to listen to how good SUU's many losses were, we might believe you.
They are a team that has improved each year...just can't get over the hump. Again, they are a good team, not a great team, but not a crappy team.
Re: Why should App State be seeded/ranked ahead of EWU?
Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 2:27 pm
by 89Hen
dbackjon wrote:89Hen wrote:

If this weren't the third straight year we had to listen to how good SUU's many losses were, we might believe you.
They are a team that has improved each year...just can't get over the hump. Again, they are a good team, not a great team, but not a crappy team.
IOW, they can lose with the best of them. They basically improved by beating Cal Poly instead of losing to them.
Re: Why should App State be seeded/ranked ahead of EWU?
Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 2:29 pm
by Screamin_Eagle174
SUU's QB (transfer from BYU) would put up at least 21 points and 300 yards against UD.