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Oddly early preseason top-25 FCS
Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 8:50 pm
by Skjellyfetti
1. Eastern Washington, Big Sky
2010 Record: 13-2
The defending national champions bring back a slew of talent. QB Bo Levi Mitchell is a preseason favorite for the Walter Payton Award.
2. Georgia Southern, Southern
2010 Record: 10-5
Head coach Jeff Monken breathed life back into Statesboro with his playoff run. The Eagles could have the best defense in the country.
3. Appalachian State, Southern
2010 Record: 10-3
The Mountaineers are looking to QB DeAndre Presley to have another stellar year. Presley scored 34 total touchdowns in 2010.
4. Delaware, CAA
2010 Record: 12-3
The national runner-ups have a great one in RB Antonio Pierce. As a true freshman Pierce rushed for 1,655 yards and 14 touchdowns.
5. Wofford, Southern
2010 Record: 10-3
Running back Eric Breitenstein returns after leading the nation in rushing touchdowns with 22. The Terriers also have a good one in DE Ameet Pall.
6. Northern Iowa, MVC
2010 Record: 7-5
Quarterback Tirrell Rennie is one of the most electrifying players at his position. Rennie and running back Carlos Anderson lead one of the top rushing attacks in the nation.
7. Montana State, Big Sky
2010 Record: 9-3
The Bobcats had one of the most balanced offensive attacks in the country last season. Returning quarterback Denarius McGhee passed for 3,000 yards and running back Orenzo Davis rushed for 1,100 yards.
8. William & Mary, CAA
2010 Record: 8-4
Linebacker Dante Cook returns to lead a stout Tribe defense. Quarterback Michael Paulus is returning from injury after a promising start last season.
9. North Dakota State, MVC
2010 Record: 9-5
The Bison are lead by running back D.J McNorton and defensive end Coulter Boyer. McNorton had 2,000 all purpose yards and 19 touchdowns last season.
10. Cal Poly, Great West
2010 Record: 7-4
The Mustangs potent rushing attack brings back running back Mark Rodgers who had 1,900 all purpose yards. Quarterback Andre Broadous returns after splitting time with Tony Smith.
11. Jacksonville State, Ohio Valley
2010 Record: 9-3
The Gamecocks started last season on fire, winning eight in a row. Quarterback Marques Ivory is looking to repeat that early season success.
12. Central Arkansas, Southland
2010 Record: 7-4
Quarterback Nathan Dick and versatile running back Terrance Bobo return on offense. The Bear defense is lead by linebacker Frank Newsome.
13. Liberty, Big South
2010 Record: 8-3
The Flames have one of the most electrifying players in the country in quarterback Mike Brown. His top target, receiver Chris Summers, is back after notching 15 touchdown grabs last season.
14. Chattanooga, Southern
2010 Record: 6-5
Head coach Russ Huesman and quarterback B.J. Coleman have reinvigorated this program. Coleman has a great receiver in Joel Bradford.
15. Montana, Big Sky
2010 Record: 7-4
The Grizz have one of the best linebacking corps in the country led by Caleb McSurdy and Jordan Tripp. Montana is reloading on the offensive side of the ball.
16. Southern Utah, Great West
2010 Record: 6-5
Quarterback Brad Sorenson is a talented pocket passer. Sorenson was down right efficient last season with 21 touchdowns to only six interceptions.
17. South Carolina State, MEAC
2010 Record: 9-3
The Bulldogs are looking to athletic quarterback Derrick Wiley to take over the offense. Defensive lineman Pat Washington and linebackers Donovan Richard lead the MEAC's top defense.
18. Sacramento State, Big Sky
2010 Record: 6-5
Quarterback Jeff Fleming has a good number of weapons at his disposal. The Hornets defense is led by defensive lineman Zack Nash who notched 13 sacks last season.
19. SE Missouri State, Ohio Valley
2010 Record: 9-3
Dual-threat quarterback Matt Scheible leads the defending OVC champions. Head coach Tony Samuel won the Eddie Robinson Award in 2010.
20. Western Illinois, MVC
2010: 8-5
One of the top rushing tandems return, running backs Caulton Ray and Bryce Flowers combined for 1,879 yards and 17 touchdowns.
21. Murray State, Ohio Valley
2010: 6-5
Quarterback Casey Brockman performed well last season and is progressing well in Chris Hatcher's spread attack. Running back Mike Harris returns after rushing for 900 yards and 10 touchdowns.
22. Stephen F. Austin, Southland
2010 Record: 9-3
The Lumberjacks lose Walter Payton Award winner Jeremy Moses but return basically everyone else. It looks like Brady Attaway is the man now.
23. Jacksonville, Pioneer
2010 Record: 10-1
Quarterback Josh McGregor returns after throwing 32 touchdowns to only seven interceptions last season. Running back J.J. Laster will carry the load as he impressed averaging 8.5 ypc in 2010.
24. Villanova, CAA
2010 Record: 9-5
The 2009 national champs are looking to reload. The Wildcats might have brought in the nation's top recruiting class at the FCS level.
25. Eastern Kentucky, Ohio Valley
2010 Record: 6-5
Quarterback T.J. Pryor leads the Colonels after an impressive 2010 campaign. Pryor's top target, wide receiver Orlandus Harris returns as well.
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now queue eveyone bitching about preseason polls.
Re: Oddly early preseason top-25 FCS
Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 9:08 pm
by SuperHornet
I like the love, but only EWU is in the right spot.
1. GA Southern is way too high.
2. App is too low.
3. Delaware is too low.
4. Liberty and Montana are too low.
5. Sac and just about everyone else are too high.
But it'll all wash out about a month or so into the season....
Re: Oddly early preseason top-25 FCS
Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 9:12 pm
by 93henfan
SuperHornet wrote:I like the love, but only EWU is in the right spot.
1. GA Southern is way too high.
2. App is too low.
3. Delaware is too low.
4. Liberty and Montana are too low.
5. Sac and just about everyone else are too high.
But it'll all wash out about a month or so into the season....
I'll just go ahead and disagree with every one of your points.
Re: Oddly early preseason top-25 FCS
Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 9:14 pm
by Skjellyfetti
If anything App is too high, imo. Just not feeling that confident about this season. Our defense has been the achille's heel the past couple of years... and we've been loaded with talent. A good chunk of that talent will now be gone. We've got some guys that can step in... but, I think the defense drops off next year.... which is bad.
Re: Oddly early preseason top-25 FCS
Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 9:14 pm
by ODUalum11
SuperHornet wrote:I like the love, but only EWU is in the right spot.
1. GA Southern is way too high.
2. App is too low.
3. Delaware is too low.
4. Liberty and Montana are too low.
5. Sac and just about everyone else are too high.
But it'll all wash out about a month or so into the season....
how about ODU not being in the top 25 at all.
Re: Oddly early preseason top-25 FCS
Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 9:19 pm
by 93henfan
This really isn't a completely terrible preseason pick, except for the fact that they give the non-power leagues way too much credit. Let's face it. It gets validated year after year in the playoffs. Autobids from sorry conferences just don't go very far in the playoffs for the most part. My preseason top 25 will be heavily populated by teams from the BSC, CAA, SoCon, and MVFC. I don't subscribe to the theory that I have to have a representative from every autobid conference in my top 25, especially when I think they'll get waxed early.
Re: Oddly early preseason top-25 FCS
Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 9:21 pm
by tribe_pride
Only 2 CAA teams in the top 20 and 3 in the top 25 - Big time down year for the conference being predicted?
Re: Oddly early preseason top-25 FCS
Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 9:22 pm
by ODUalum11
tribe_pride wrote:Only 2 CAA teams in the top 20 and 3 in the top 25 - Big time down year for the conference being predicted?
did ODU pick the right year to join the conference?
Re: Oddly early preseason top-25 FCS
Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 9:23 pm
by 93henfan
tribe_pride wrote:Only 2 CAA teams in the top 20 and 3 in the top 25 - Big time down year for the conference being predicted?
I don't know why URI isn't getting any love. Don't tell anyone, but they're my darkhorse for 2011!
Re: Oddly early preseason top-25 FCS
Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 9:47 pm
by SuperHornet
93henfan wrote:SuperHornet wrote:I like the love, but only EWU is in the right spot.
1. GA Southern is way too high.
2. App is too low.
3. Delaware is too low.
4. Liberty and Montana are too low.
5. Sac and just about everyone else are too high.
But it'll all wash out about a month or so into the season....
I'll just go ahead and disagree with every one of your points.
Including #5, which goes counter to just about everything I've ever said here?
Re: Oddly early preseason top-25 FCS
Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 9:52 pm
by Screamin_Eagle174
QB Bo Levi Mitchell is a preseason favorite for the Walter Payton Award.
Yeah, if he throws 10 less INTs then maybe. He did perform a lot better in the latter half of the year, so it'll be interesting to see if he can carry it over to the fall.
Re: Oddly early preseason top-25 FCS
Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 9:58 pm
by ODUalum11
Screamin_Eagle174 wrote:QB Bo Levi Mitchell is a preseason favorite for the Walter Payton Award.
Yeah, if he throws 10 less INTs then maybe. He did perform a lot better in the latter half of the year, so it'll be interesting to see if he can carry it over to the fall.
FWIW, Thomas Demarco was named to the watch list last year and he finished no where close to having a good enough season to be a finalist.
Re: Oddly early preseason top-25 FCS
Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 10:46 pm
by lakesbison
NDSU will be kicking ALL of you asses next year. get used to it.
oh, georgia southern backed out a 2nd week game vs NDSU. how sweet would that game of been @ the Fargodome!!
Re: Oddly early preseason top-25 FCS
Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 11:27 pm
by Willie
lakesbison wrote:NDSU will be kicking ALL of you asses next year. get used to it.
oh, georgia southern backed out a 2nd week game vs NDSU. how sweet would that game of been @ the Fargodome!!
Re: Oddly early preseason top-25 FCS
Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 11:57 pm
by Screamin_Eagle174
lakesbison wrote:NDSU will be kicking ALL of you asses next year. get used to it.
oh, georgia southern backed out a 2nd week game vs NDSU. how sweet would that game of been @ the Fargodome!!
You know all the fans at every NDSU away game are going to bring cowbells, right?
Congrats by the way to the 2010 NDSU paper champs.
Re: Oddly early preseason top-25 FCS
Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 1:41 am
by ArmyOfDarkness
lakesbison wrote:NDSU will be kicking ALL of you asses next year. get used to it.
oh, georgia southern backed out a 2nd week game vs NDSU. how sweet would that game of been @ the Fargodome!!
What the fuck is a Fargodome????
Maybe....???
Or....???
Re: Oddly early preseason top-25 FCS
Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 4:13 am
by Tribe4SF
Alot wrong with this ranking. I'll take New Hampshire over UNI, and anyone ranked below #9. JMU returns 10 from a very good defense, and like 89, Rhode Island is my darkhorse.
Re: Oddly early preseason top-25 FCS
Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 6:22 am
by bluehenbillk
Maybe it's southern bias but here is ALL you need to know about how screwed up this poll is:
MORE OVC teams appear than CAA teams.
Re: Oddly early preseason top-25 FCS
Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 6:27 am
by ASUG8
ASU is too high - I agree with KY's assessment, and we might be a top 10 team - lots of departures in '10. GSU and Wofford will be for real this season and will likely battle it out for the SoCon championship.
Re: Oddly early preseason top-25 FCS
Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 6:47 am
by 89Hen
SuperHornet wrote:I like the love, but only EWU is in the right spot.
1. GA Southern is way too high.
2. App is too low.
3. Delaware is too low.
4. Liberty and Montana are too low.
5. Sac and just about everyone else are too high.
But it'll all wash out about a month or so into the season....
Not sure how UD can be too low. #4 losing their starting QB, the entire defensive backfield, and a key LB.
I'd agree most are too high. These teams all perennially dissapoint...
11. Jacksonville State, Ohio Valley
12. Central Arkansas, Southland
13. Liberty, Big South
14. Chattanooga, Southern
16. Southern Utah, Great West
17. South Carolina State, MEAC
18. Sacramento State, Big Sky
20. Western Illinois, MVC
21. Murray State, Ohio Valley
23. Jacksonville, Pioneer
Re: Oddly early preseason top-25 FCS
Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 7:34 am
by UCABEAR
Not sure how UD can be too low. #4 losing their starting QB, the entire defensive backfield, and a key LB.
I'd agree most are too high. These teams all perennially dissapoint...
11. Jacksonville State, Ohio Valley
12. Central Arkansas, Southland
13. Liberty, Big South
14. Chattanooga, Southern
16. Southern Utah, Great West
17. South Carolina State, MEAC
18. Sacramento State, Big Sky
20. Western Illinois, MVC
21. Murray State, Ohio Valley
23. Jacksonville, Pioneer
per·en·ni·al (p -r n - l). adj. 1. Lasting or active through the year or through many years. 2. a. Lasting an indefinitely long time; enduring: perennial ...
I can see how you would be perennially dissapointed in a team that is 3 years in division I and they win the conference their first year and nearly make it to the playoffs with a 7 - 4 record the first eligible playoff year. 3 years. Not decades like some teams. 3 years. I'm not disappointed. I'm ready for that new turf, skyboxes, and new weight facility that are going in that will draw the better recruits. Things are looking sooo much better than first in conference and playoff eligible..
Re: Oddly early preseason top-25 FCS
Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 7:58 am
by 89Hen
UCABEAR wrote:Not sure how UD can be too low. #4 losing their starting QB, the entire defensive backfield, and a key LB.
I'd agree most are too high. These teams all perennially dissapoint...
11. Jacksonville State, Ohio Valley
12. Central Arkansas, Southland
13. Liberty, Big South
14. Chattanooga, Southern
16. Southern Utah, Great West
17. South Carolina State, MEAC
18. Sacramento State, Big Sky
20. Western Illinois, MVC
21. Murray State, Ohio Valley
23. Jacksonville, Pioneer
per·en·ni·al (p -r n - l). adj. 1. Lasting or active through the year or through many years. 2. a. Lasting an indefinitely long time; enduring: perennial ...
I can see how you would be perennially dissapointed in a team that is 3 years in division I and they win the conference their first year and nearly make it to the playoffs with a 7 - 4 record the first eligible playoff year. 3 years. Not decades like some teams. 3 years. I'm not disappointed. I'm ready for that new turf, skyboxes, and new weight facility that are going in that will draw the better recruits. Things are looking sooo much better than first in conference and playoff eligible..
Yeah, you probably shouldn't have been included in that list. It just seems to me that UCA is on the verge the last 2-3 years of making some noise and they just aren't there yet.
Re: Oddly early preseason top-25 FCS
Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 8:52 am
by SmallCollegeFBFan
Skjellyfetti wrote:1. Eastern Washington, Big Sky
2010 Record: 13-2
The defending national champions bring back a slew of talent. QB Bo Levi Mitchell is a preseason favorite for the Walter Payton Award.
2. Georgia Southern, Southern
2010 Record: 10-5
Head coach Jeff Monken breathed life back into Statesboro with his playoff run. The Eagles could have the best defense in the country.
3. Appalachian State, Southern
2010 Record: 10-3
The Mountaineers are looking to QB DeAndre Presley to have another stellar year. Presley scored 34 total touchdowns in 2010.
4. Delaware, CAA
2010 Record: 12-3
The national runner-ups have a great one in RB Antonio Pierce. As a true freshman Pierce rushed for 1,655 yards and 14 touchdowns.
5. Wofford, Southern
2010 Record: 10-3
Running back Eric Breitenstein returns after leading the nation in rushing touchdowns with 22. The Terriers also have a good one in DE Ameet Pall.
6. Northern Iowa, MVC
2010 Record: 7-5
Quarterback Tirrell Rennie is one of the most electrifying players at his position. Rennie and running back Carlos Anderson lead one of the top rushing attacks in the nation.
7. Montana State, Big Sky
2010 Record: 9-3
The Bobcats had one of the most balanced offensive attacks in the country last season. Returning quarterback Denarius McGhee passed for 3,000 yards and running back Orenzo Davis rushed for 1,100 yards.
8. William & Mary, CAA
2010 Record: 8-4
Linebacker Dante Cook returns to lead a stout Tribe defense. Quarterback Michael Paulus is returning from injury after a promising start last season.
9. North Dakota State, MVC
2010 Record: 9-5
The Bison are lead by running back D.J McNorton and defensive end Coulter Boyer. McNorton had 2,000 all purpose yards and 19 touchdowns last season.
10. Cal Poly, Great West
2010 Record: 7-4
The Mustangs potent rushing attack brings back running back Mark Rodgers who had 1,900 all purpose yards. Quarterback Andre Broadous returns after splitting time with Tony Smith.
11. Jacksonville State, Ohio Valley
2010 Record: 9-3
The Gamecocks started last season on fire, winning eight in a row. Quarterback Marques Ivory is looking to repeat that early season success.
12. Central Arkansas, Southland
2010 Record: 7-4
Quarterback Nathan Dick and versatile running back Terrance Bobo return on offense. The Bear defense is lead by linebacker Frank Newsome.
13. Liberty, Big South
2010 Record: 8-3
The Flames have one of the most electrifying players in the country in quarterback Mike Brown. His top target, receiver Chris Summers, is back after notching 15 touchdown grabs last season.
14. Chattanooga, Southern
2010 Record: 6-5
Head coach Russ Huesman and quarterback B.J. Coleman have reinvigorated this program. Coleman has a great receiver in Joel Bradford.
15. Montana, Big Sky
2010 Record: 7-4
The Grizz have one of the best linebacking corps in the country led by Caleb McSurdy and Jordan Tripp. Montana is reloading on the offensive side of the ball.
16. Southern Utah, Great West
2010 Record: 6-5
Quarterback Brad Sorenson is a talented pocket passer. Sorenson was down right efficient last season with 21 touchdowns to only six interceptions.
17. South Carolina State, MEAC
2010 Record: 9-3
The Bulldogs are looking to athletic quarterback Derrick Wiley to take over the offense. Defensive lineman Pat Washington and linebackers Donovan Richard lead the MEAC's top defense.
18. Sacramento State, Big Sky
2010 Record: 6-5
Quarterback Jeff Fleming has a good number of weapons at his disposal. The Hornets defense is led by defensive lineman Zack Nash who notched 13 sacks last season.
19. SE Missouri State, Ohio Valley
2010 Record: 9-3
Dual-threat quarterback Matt Scheible leads the defending OVC champions. Head coach Tony Samuel won the Eddie Robinson Award in 2010.
20. Western Illinois, MVC
2010: 8-5
One of the top rushing tandems return, running backs Caulton Ray and Bryce Flowers combined for 1,879 yards and 17 touchdowns.
21. Murray State, Ohio Valley
2010: 6-5
Quarterback Casey Brockman performed well last season and is progressing well in Chris Hatcher's spread attack. Running back Mike Harris returns after rushing for 900 yards and 10 touchdowns.
22. Stephen F. Austin, Southland
2010 Record: 9-3
The Lumberjacks lose Walter Payton Award winner Jeremy Moses but return basically everyone else. It looks like Brady Attaway is the man now.
23. Jacksonville, Pioneer
2010 Record: 10-1
Quarterback Josh McGregor returns after throwing 32 touchdowns to only seven interceptions last season. Running back J.J. Laster will carry the load as he impressed averaging 8.5 ypc in 2010.
24. Villanova, CAA
2010 Record: 9-5
The 2009 national champs are looking to reload. The Wildcats might have brought in the nation's top recruiting class at the FCS level.
25. Eastern Kentucky, Ohio Valley
2010 Record: 6-5
Quarterback T.J. Pryor leads the Colonels after an impressive 2010 campaign. Pryor's top target, wide receiver Orlandus Harris returns as well.
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now queue eveyone bitching about preseason polls.
A little too much love for the SoCon. Don't see App finishing in the top 5 losing 3 combine guys, 2 of which are on defense, 3 all-americans on defense, 3 OL, 2 key receivers, and lacking experienced depth at RB and in the secondary will hurt as well.
The CAA is not given enough credit. There should just about be 5 teams in the top 25 by default. I'm sure JMU will be better, URI is a better team than given credit for, and I think UNH will be a top 25 caliber team. It would not surprise me to see Richmond in the top 15-20 when all is said and done either with a healthy Corp.
Re: Oddly early preseason top-25 FCS
Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 8:56 am
by 89Hen
SmallCollegeFBFan wrote:The CAA is not given enough credit. There should just about be 5 teams in the top 25 by default. I'm sure JMU will be better, URI is a better team than given credit for, and I think UNH will be a top 25 caliber team. It would not surprise me to see Richmond in the top 15-20 when all is said and done either with a healthy Corp.
I said it on another thread... I can see the CAA having a letdown year, similar to 2002. Heck, even in 2003 UD was really the only great team. The current run of multiple good teams really started in 2004.
Re: Oddly early preseason top-25 FCS
Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 9:03 am
by SmallCollegeFBFan
89Hen wrote:SmallCollegeFBFan wrote:The CAA is not given enough credit. There should just about be 5 teams in the top 25 by default. I'm sure JMU will be better, URI is a better team than given credit for, and I think UNH will be a top 25 caliber team. It would not surprise me to see Richmond in the top 15-20 when all is said and done either with a healthy Corp.
I said it on another thread... I can see the CAA having a letdown year, similar to 2002. Heck, even in 2003 UD was really the only great team. The current run of multiple good teams really started in 2004.
Oh no doubt it will be a down year but do we honestly think the Pioneer League champ would be 4th in the CAA? Even in a down year I would put a couple of them in the 17-25 range. I believe the down year will be more like just 1-2 in the top 10 instead of 3-4 like we are use to seeing. You just can't count out JMU, Richmond, UMASS, etc. as they have found ways to reload pretty quick. I have a hard time believing JMU will finish out of the top 25 for two years in a row.