Villanova Big East Decission Thread

[danefan]

Nothing yet official, we'll have to wait until Tuesday of next week.................but

http://www.examiner.com/college-footbal ... s-big-east" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

According to VUHoops.com's latest on the situation the Villanova Board of Trustees has enough votes to move forward with moving up and joining the Big East.

[93henfan]

Don't let the door hit your snobby, Catholic asses on the way out!

[Silenoz]

Take that CAA strength-of-conference-chest-puffing assholes!



...until ODU becomes really good in like 2 years

[GannonFan]

Take that CAA strength-of-conference-chest-puffing *******!



...until ODU becomes really good in like 2 years

It's a rebuilding year this year for nova anyway - they aren't going to be a playoff team this year anyway.

With that said, it would be stunning if they didn't move up - they just lose too much money at this level not to try losing money for potentially less somewhere else. However, long term prospects are never good when you plan on playing in a rented soccer stadium, miles from campus, in the heart of Chester, that only seats 18k or so. But hey, it's the devil you don't know (FBS) over the one you do know (FCS and the red ink there).

[henfan]

Yet another VU reclassification thread? Really?

Anyhow, while I want them out of the CAA, I'll believe it when it's officially announced. This rumor comes from VUhoops.com, an ardent supporter of VU FB reclassification, so TIFWIW.

[collegesportsinfo]

Breaking news: Villanova has made a decision to make a decision to make a decision. But they need to have antoher meeting first before deciding on what to decide.

[bluehenbillk]

I am singing the same song I've sung since the start: It'll be a narrow vote to move up. They may say it was overwhelming for show, but in reality, they'll decide to move up & play in the Big East @ PPL Park. They really don't have another option now as they've really backed themselves into a corner. I'll congratulate them on their move & refer to them as Chester U. until the end of time, just b/c you know it'll piss 'Nova's snooty alums off.

If it is a yes I hope they move this year's and possibly last UD-VU game to PPL.

[93henfan]

If it is a yes I hope they move this year's and possibly last UD-VU game to PPL.

Why would you want to move to a smaller venue?

[bluehenbillk]

If it is a yes I hope they move this year's and possibly last UD-VU game to PPL.

Why would you want to move to a smaller venue?

VU's stadium on-campus holds 13K, PPL Park holds 18K.

[93henfan]

Why would you want to move to a smaller venue?

VU's stadium on-campus holds 13K, PPL Park holds 18K.

I was talking about the Delaware Stadium games. I guess you weren't.

[LeadBolt]

Breaking news: Villanova has made a decision to make a decision to make a decision. But they need to have antoher meeting first before deciding on what to decide.

+1

[bluehenbillk]

VU's stadium on-campus holds 13K, PPL Park holds 18K.

I was talking about the Delaware Stadium games. I guess you weren't.

What I meant was this year's game is scheduled at VU. If VU decides to move up, then '12 & '13 will be transition years for them, they'll play more FBS teams and we may be seeing the last VU-UD game this November, unless VU wants to come to Newark one more time in 2012, but not holding my breath.....

[PenthouseClosedEnd]

Just shut up and move. Sick of hearing about it.

If it's voted down, just drop the program or move to the NEC. Go away.

[GannonFan]

Following a meeting by the Big East, apparently a vote on Tuesday has been put off indefinitely (doesn't mean nova will or won't be in the Big East for football, just that no vote is scheduled for Tuesday now and there's no indication of when a vote will take place, if ever).

Apparently the sticking point is nova's plan to rent out the soccer stadium in Chester and its less than 20k capacity. Of course, the stadium issue has always been the biggest issue with nova's potential to move to FBS (if they could play in the Linc they'd be a slamdunk to move and probably even be moderately successful - but the Linc will never be an option).
http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/col ... layed.html

[93henfan]

Following a meeting by the Big East, apparently a vote on Tuesday has been put off indefinitely (doesn't mean nova will or won't be in the Big East for football, just that no vote is scheduled for Tuesday now and there's no indication of when a vote will take place, if ever).

Apparently the sticking point is nova's plan to rent out the soccer stadium in Chester and its less than 20k capacity. Of course, the stadium issue has always been the biggest issue with nova's potential to move to FBS (if they could play in the Linc they'd be a slamdunk to move and probably even be moderately successful - but the Linc will never be an option).
http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/col ... layed.html

I wonder if the other members of the Big East saw the latest Chester shootout over the weekend? Speaking of which, if they ever do play a high scoring game in Chester, "shootout in Chester" would probably be the wrong choice of words on the 11 pm news.
http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/loc ... Party.html

I'm guessing that the Nova folks didn't want their Chester plans announced the same day the funerals were being covered.

[bluehenbillk]

Wow, I have to admit - I did NOT see this coming. Why did it take so long? It's been well documented that maybe the biggest challenge surrounding this move would be the crowd size or lack thereof. Apparently according to unconfirmed e-mails swirling around 'Nova last night the move , or a vote has been put off indefinitely, read into what you will regarding the term indefinitely. Not good news for the Villanova program as I can't see them continuing for any length of time as a FCS program....

[89Hen]

Wow, I have to admit - I did NOT see this coming. Why did it take so long? It's been well documented that maybe the biggest challenge surrounding this move would be the crowd size or lack thereof.

Maybe the BE just found the link to cs.com?

[collegesportsinfo]

The stadium size issue by the Big East has been very public and the #1 obstacle for the past month. The time Villanova has taken was supposed to be to come up with an alternative plan (new stadium plan) which they were not able to come up with.

Like most of you, my problem was always that even with a small 30k stadium, I never saw a chance that Villanova would be able to sell out every game. And the Big East wasn't something much bigger than 30k.

UCF and Houston are off to the mall to get some slutty dresses as we speak.

[GannonFan]

The stadium size issue by the Big East has been very public and the #1 obstacle for the past month. The time Villanova has taken was supposed to be to come up with an alternative plan (new stadium plan) which they were not able to come up with.

Like most of you, my problem was always that even with a small 30k stadium, I never saw a chance that Villanova would be able to sell out every game. And the Big East wasn't something much bigger than 30k.

UCF and Houston are off to the mall to get some slutty dresses as we speak.

Interesting read that the delay in deciding was based upon the stadium issue. I never thought they'd be successful (financially) in PPL, btu I just figured the Big East was desperate enough to basically pay nova to be FBS and nova was desperate enough to potentially lose less money than they do now that it was a marriage of convenience. Apparently, the Big East didn't feel that great about having nova steal money the way Temple did back in the day when they took Big East handout after Big East handout.

But it's strange that they (the Big East or nova) were ever thinking that there could be some answer to the stadium question. That's always been the #1a problem (along with the lack of a fanbase as problem #1b, and playing in a pro sports market as #1c and just not having the money as problem #1d) for nova football - can't expand on campus because of Radnor, there's no place to build a stadium in Delaware County and there's no money to build one anyway, and they can't ever get the Linc (and Citizen's Bank is closed until November for the foreseeable future and the Big East doesn't want a team beholden to an Ivy League school so Franklin Field, decrepit as it is, is out). There was never going to be a solution to the stadium issue - odd to wait this long to see the inevitable.

[collegesportsinfo]

Gannon, I think the "solution" the Big East was hoping for WAS a new stadium. As we've seem before, if a school/city is dedicated, it will get done regardless of the obstacles. I give credit to the BE for holding firm and not letting Villanova feeling even more entitled. They got the invite despite, to a bCS conference, despite not even being FBs...that's a HUGE gift. And in return, the Big East only asked for a Big East caliber stadium in return. When you factor in current and future revenue, it's a steal for Villanova...if they were like all the other schools. And that's the problem: Villanova is not like Rutgers, Cincy, Louisville, etc. Those schools need stadium revisions, they get done. If they needed a new stadium to remain int he Big East, it would get done. Nova just has so much stacked against it due to all the points Gannon just made above.

[∞∞∞]

Didn't see this posted:

Dear Students, Faculty and Staff:

It is important to me that you are the first to know the status of our potential transition to the Big East Conference as a football member. At this point in time, no formal action will be taken on this matter at the April 12, 2011, meeting of the Villanova Board of Trustees as we had planned and previously communicated.

We very recently learned that the Big East Conference needs more time to complete its due diligence regarding Villanova’s potential football membership. Without a clear and formal invitation from the Big East, we cannot proceed. We are now working with the Big East to provide whatever additional information and details we can. It is our hope that in the near future we will proceed with the Board of Trustees vote as planned .

I am sure that some of you may be disappointed by this delay. But please know that whatever the outcome of this situation, we greatly value the positive relationship we have enjoyed with the Big East for over 30 years and look forward to the continuation of this partnership.

I certainly will share new information with you as soon as it becomes available. In the meantime, I ask for your patience and your continued support.

Sincerely,

Fr. Peter Donohue, O.S.A.
President

http://hamptonroads.com/2011/04/old-dom ... until-vote

[Silenoz]

I think that's just the usual "you don't get an official invite until you accept" type of thing. Once/if this issue is cleared up the invite is back on the table

[GannonFan]

I think that's just the usual "you don't get an official invite until you accept" type of thing. Once/if this issue is cleared up the invite is back on the table

I agree, but if the condition is that nova come up with a better plan than using PPL park (capacity 18.5k) as is or spend $$$ to expand it to 30k then it'll be a think that will never be on the table. Obviously PPL as is doesn't work. Can nova come up with the money to expand PPL to just 30k, and will the Union even want the stadium that big and will that even be enough to get in? It sounds like nova was going to say yes (not a shocker) and that the Big East got cold feet (several schools recognizing that nova would be a Temple-like moocher of Big East money without bringing much to the table). But with no realistic option for a different stadium than what's already scared off several Big East schools, I'm not sure where nova goes from here. If they stay FCS then you can start the countdown clock to nova folding the football program again.

[bluehenbillk]

Just got the blow-by-blow on how the whole thing went down this weekend....

http://www.nunesmagician.com/2011/4/11/ ... um-tuesday" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[GannonFan]

Just got the blow-by-blow on how the whole thing went down this weekend....

http://www.nunesmagician.com/2011/4/11/ ... um-tuesday" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

"What the hell's a PPL"?

"THE Rutgers Scarlet Knights"

Just funny stuff right there.