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Delaware-Navy 2011 thread
Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2011 11:00 pm
by bonarae
-Majority (including myself) at the other site says that the game will be close, but only one is optimistic that Delaware will pull an upset.
-Triple option is still alive and well at Navy, and can Delaware repeat its performance against Georgia Southern's similar offense in the playoffs last year?
Anything to add or explain here? Discuss.
Re: Delaware-Navy 2011 thread
Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2011 11:15 pm
by SDHornet
Navy lost Dobbs right? They'll be breaking in a new QB. I think it will be a good close game.
Re: Delaware-Navy 2011 thread
Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2011 11:19 pm
by AZGrizFan
I think there's a good chance Delaware wins this game.

Re: Delaware-Navy 2011 thread
Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 5:42 am
by bluehenbillk
Should be a decent contest. UD's biggest issue is how well the QB (Sasek) will play. He didn't separate himself very well from our backup who I've never been that impressed with. Otherwise, UD is stacked everywhere else on offense & our defensive front seven should be very good as well. The DB questions that UD has won't matter much against Navy.
Always a good time in Annapolis - actually the UD game is normally their best attended home game of the year - with the help of about an average of 8,000 UD fans there....
Re: Delaware-Navy 2011 thread
Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 8:28 am
by Aho Old Guy
I thinks duh Fightin' Chickens will have to score early, and often, to beat Navy. Should be a really entertaining game to watch.
The Navy offense will not fall off much from last year - Proctor will throw even LESS than Dobbs. If the Delaware defense can hold Navy under 300 yards rushing and snag a few turnovers, it could get very interesting.
Otherwise - it's a track meet. First team to score 35+ points wins.
Re: Delaware-Navy 2011 thread
Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 9:03 am
by 89Hen
Aho Old Guy wrote:I thinks duh Fightin' Chickens will have to score early, and often, to beat Navy.
We've seen just about every type of game in this series. Last two Hen wins were 59-52 (in regulation!) and 21-17. The Hens have definitely had luck stuffing the triple option in some years. With Navy having a new QB, and it being the first game of the season... I like the Hens chances much better than if the game were in November when it normally is.
Folks have to remember that this series is 7-7 since it restarted in 1985. I'm not sure how Delaware winning can be considered much of an upset.

Re: Delaware-Navy 2011 thread
Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 9:08 am
by AZGrizFan
89Hen wrote:Aho Old Guy wrote:I thinks duh Fightin' Chickens will have to score early, and often, to beat Navy.
We've seen just about every type of game in this series. Last two Hen wins were 59-52 (in regulation!) and 21-17. The Hens have definitely had luck stuffing the triple option in some years. With Navy having a new QB, and it being the first game of the season... I like the Hens chances much better than if the game were in November when it normally is.
Folks have to remember that this series is 7-7 since it restarted in 1985. I'm not sure how Delaware winning can be considered much of an upset.

Agreed. In fact, it's about the surest bet FCS against FBS this year.

Re: Delaware-Navy 2011 thread
Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 9:14 am
by wmtribe90
bluehenbillk wrote:Should be a decent contest. UD's biggest issue is how well the QB (Sasek) will play. He didn't separate himself very well from our backup who I've never been that impressed with. Otherwise, UD is stacked everywhere else on offense & our defensive front seven should be very good as well. The DB questions that UD has won't matter much against Navy.
Always a good time in Annapolis - actually the UD game is normally their best attended home game of the year - with the help of about an average of 8,000 UD fans there....
Gotta disagree when you say the DB play won't matter much against Navy. Yes, your secondary's coverage ability won't be critical, but run support will be. WM and UD both had good defenses last year, but UD faired much better against GSU. The primary reason being the physical/aggressive play of your secondary, especially the safeties. Stopping the triple option takes a full team effort on defense.
Re: Delaware-Navy 2011 thread
Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 9:40 am
by SuperHornet
Close game, yes. I say Navy wins, but a Delaware win is DEFINITELY within the realm of possibility.
Plus, if LV buys into that FBS-is-automatically-a-ton-better-than-FCS trash, you're at LEAST looking at a Delaware win ATS. Therefore, win or lose on the field, go put some cache down on Delaware. You're bound to make some green regardless.

Re: Delaware-Navy 2011 thread
Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 1:26 pm
by Aho Old Guy
89Hen wrote:Aho Old Guy wrote:I thinks duh Fightin' Chickens will have to score early, and often, to beat Navy.
We've seen just about every type of game in this series. Last two Hen wins were 59-52 (in regulation!) and 21-17. The Hens have definitely had luck stuffing the triple option in some years. With Navy having a new QB, and it being the first game of the season... I like the Hens chances much better than if the game were in November when it normally is.
Folks have to remember that this series is 7-7 since it restarted in 1985. I'm not sure how Delaware winning can be considered much of an upset.

I guess I'll change my prediction: First team to 50 points wins.
...but UD faired much better against GSU. The primary reason being the physical/aggressive play of your secondary, especially the safeties.
That ... and The Stink stunk it up with a bunch of turnovers.
Re: Delaware-Navy 2011 thread
Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 1:44 pm
by 93henfan
Delaware wins 24-21 on a FG with under a minute left.
Re: Delaware-Navy 2011 thread
Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 2:16 pm
by Ivytalk
93henfan wrote:Delaware wins 24-21 on a FG with under a minute left.
Do the Hens have a decent kicker this year? I think it's a FG game, but I see it going the other way.

Re: Delaware-Navy 2011 thread
Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 2:19 pm
by dbackjon
Ivytalk wrote:93henfan wrote:Delaware wins 24-21 on a FG with under a minute left.
Do the Hens have a decent kicker this year? I think it's a FG game, but I see it going the other way.

20-19 Ol' Navy
Re: Delaware-Navy 2011 thread
Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 2:34 pm
by bluehenbillk
wmtribe90 wrote:bluehenbillk wrote:Should be a decent contest. UD's biggest issue is how well the QB (Sasek) will play. He didn't separate himself very well from our backup who I've never been that impressed with. Otherwise, UD is stacked everywhere else on offense & our defensive front seven should be very good as well. The DB questions that UD has won't matter much against Navy.
Always a good time in Annapolis - actually the UD game is normally their best attended home game of the year - with the help of about an average of 8,000 UD fans there....
Gotta disagree when you say the DB play won't matter much against Navy. Yes, your secondary's coverage ability won't be critical, but run support will be. WM and UD both had good defenses last year, but UD faired much better against GSU. The primary reason being the physical/aggressive play of your secondary, especially the safeties. Stopping the triple option takes a full team effort on defense.
Oh I agree with you, you're correct that tackling is a huge part of stopping the option & we had a helluva safety in Bratton last year to lead the way. Tackling with this group doesn't seem to be an issue though. The separation with this year's secondary versus last years is in coverage. Case in point Marcus Burley who has played the past couple years mostly in a backup role, partly in a starter role is a good tackler, but has been picked on in coverage situations. Fortunately the CAA isn't stocked with high-powered passing offenses this year.
Re: Delaware-Navy 2011 thread
Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 3:12 pm
by Screamin_Eagle174
dbackjon wrote:Ivytalk wrote:
Do the Hens have a decent kicker this year? I think it's a FG game, but I see it going the other way.

20-19 Ol' Navy

Re: Delaware-Navy 2011 thread
Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 4:33 pm
by ChickenMan
Navy may have to replace Dobbs.. but UD has to replace Devlin. Hope I'm wrong, but I don't see UD.. with a brand new QB being able to score enough points (28+) to beat Navy.
Re: Delaware-Navy 2011 thread
Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 6:13 pm
by Tubby Raymond
bluehenbillk wrote:Should be a decent contest. UD's biggest issue is how well the QB (Sasek) will play. He didn't separate himself very well from our backup who I've never been that impressed with. Otherwise, UD is stacked everywhere else on offense & our defensive front seven should be very good as well. The DB questions that UD has won't matter much against Navy.
Always a good time in Annapolis - actually the UD game is normally their best attended home game of the year - with the help of about an average of 8,000 UD fans there....
BHBK
Who do you think ends up making most of the tackles vs this offense. Look back at the last few meeting we have had with them and if my memory serves me well, the DB's have high #'s.
UD will struggle offensively, never a good thing vs the Mids. Look at the scores of the last few constests.
Re: Delaware-Navy 2011 thread
Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 6:15 pm
by Tubby Raymond
Screamin_Eagle174 wrote:dbackjon wrote:
20-19 Ol' Navy

Sure hope an incurable communicable disease is headed your way
Re: Delaware-Navy 2011 thread
Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 6:30 pm
by Screamin_Eagle174
Tubby Raymond wrote:Screamin_Eagle174 wrote:

Sure hope an incurable communicable disease is headed your way

Wow, somebody's bitter. Your husband shit in your coffee?

Re: Delaware-Navy 2011 thread
Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 10:06 pm
by easterntennhen
I'll repeat what I said on gohens and predict a hen victory 38-22. Hammer navy with our excellent o-line and pierce and then play action navy into submission. Pierce goes for 125 and I believe navy puts the ball on the ground 3 times leading to easy short field touchdowns for Delaware. Let the game(s) begin!!!!

Re: Delaware-Navy 2011 thread
Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 11:06 pm
by AZGrizFan
Re: Delaware-Navy 2011 thread
Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 5:26 am
by bluehenbillk
Screamin_Eagle174 wrote:Tubby Raymond wrote:
Sure hope an incurable communicable disease is headed your way

Wow, somebody's bitter. Your husband **** in your coffee?

Tubby is old & senile by now - he gets pissy whenever you bring up throwing to the tight end or getting the plays in.
Re: Delaware-Navy 2011 thread
Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 5:56 am
by CAA Flagship
This game could be a repeat of what happened in 1999.
U.S. Navy Kill Chickens
World IN BRIEF / ANNAPOLIS, MD September 26, 1999|From Times Wire Reports
About 60 U.S. Navy personnel in Annapolis slaughtered 60 chickens to control the city's worst outbreak of animal disease. Chickens were slaughtered on the football field to stop an epidemic of Newark disease, named for their hometown city. About 25,600 people witnessed the massacre. The virus is not believed to pose a risk to humans.
Re: Delaware-Navy 2011 thread
Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 7:21 am
by 89Hen
Tubby Raymond wrote:UD will struggle offensively, never a good thing vs the Mids. Look at the scores of the last few constests.
Why do you think they will struggle offensively?
Re: Delaware-Navy 2011 thread
Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 9:22 am
by ChickenMan
89Hen wrote:Why do you think they will struggle offensively?
I'm hoping they won't.. but there is a good chance that they will.. as UD will be playing an inexperienced and unproven QB vs a defense that has actually game planned to defend against that inexperienced QB. I know some Hen fans are pointing to Sasek's performance vs JMU.. but that was as a backup vs a defense that expected to be facing a UD offense run by Devlin. You can bet your bottom dollar that had JMU known that they were going to see Sasek as opposed to Devlin that their 'D' would have given UD an entirely different look. I expect that the Navy defense will do whatever is necessary to take away or limit the UD running game and force Sasek to prove that he is cable of hurting them in the air. If Navy can take away the running game and put an inexperienced QB in a lot of 3rd and longs.. it could be a long day or the Hen offense.