stopping the triple option

Football Championship Subdivision discussions
lakesbison
Level2
Level2
Posts: 1086
Joined: Thu Aug 20, 2009 8:45 am
I am a fan of: NDSU
A.K.A.: lakesbison

stopping the triple option

Post by lakesbison »

Your DTs and DEs have to play disciplined assignment football "from the inside out"....keep the shoulders parrallel, close down the gaps by not letting the o-linemen in front of them block down without closing the hole, be patient and wait on the QB to come to you before committing....if you play smart, keeping your shoulders parrallel to the LOS and don't overcommit nor overpursue, you can force the TO outside and your linebackers and corners can have a field day....

NDSU will do this, no worries.
Bear
Level1
Level1
Posts: 250
Joined: Sat Sep 10, 2011 4:38 pm
I am a fan of: The Big Grizzle

Re: stopping the triple option

Post by Bear »

lakesbison wrote:Your DTs and DEs have to play disciplined assignment football "from the inside out"....keep the shoulders parrallel, close down the gaps by not letting the o-linemen in front of them block down without closing the hole, be patient and wait on the QB to come to you before committing....if you play smart, keeping your shoulders parrallel to the LOS and don't overcommit nor overpursue, you can force the TO outside and your linebackers and corners can have a field day....

NDSU will do this, no worries.
Ha! What a perfectly hilarious attempt to sound like you know even the first thing about football, let alone how to stop the Irresistible Force that is the GSU Triple Option! Oh lakesbison, you are a wondrously tremendous Clown! :rofl:
User avatar
Gil Dobie
Supporter
Supporter
Posts: 31253
Joined: Fri Jul 13, 2007 7:45 pm
I am a fan of: Norse Dakota State
Location: Historic Leduc Estate

Re: stopping the triple option

Post by Gil Dobie »

Even Chuck Norris could not stop the Triple Option. :nod:
Image
proasu89
Level1
Level1
Posts: 234
Joined: Sat Feb 02, 2008 1:23 pm
I am a fan of: Appalachian

Re: stopping the triple option

Post by proasu89 »

lakesbison wrote:Your DTs and DEs have to play disciplined assignment football "from the inside out"....keep the shoulders parrallel, close down the gaps by not letting the o-linemen in front of them block down without closing the hole, be patient and wait on the QB to come to you before committing....if you play smart, keeping your shoulders parrallel to the LOS and don't overcommit nor overpursue, you can force the TO outside and your linebackers and corners can have a field day....

NDSU will do this, no worries.
You can't stop the TO. You can only hope to contain it!
User avatar
93henfan
Supporter
Supporter
Posts: 56358
Joined: Wed Jan 07, 2009 9:03 pm
Location: Slower Delaware

Re: stopping the triple option

Post by 93henfan »

Gil Dobie wrote:Even Chuck Norris could not stop the Triple Option. :nod:
This is not true. Chuck Norris counters A with his beard, B with his fist, and C with a well-timed roundhouse kick.
Delaware Football: 1889-2012; 2022-
kalm
Supporter
Supporter
Posts: 63952
Joined: Thu Oct 01, 2009 3:36 pm
I am a fan of: Eastern
A.K.A.: Humus The Proud
Location: Northern Palouse

Re: stopping the triple option

Post by kalm »

93henfan wrote:
Gil Dobie wrote:Even Chuck Norris could not stop the Triple Option. :nod:
This is not true. Chuck Norris counters A with his beard, B with his fist, and C with a well-timed roundhouse kick.
There is never more than one option when playing a Chuck Norris defense...death.
Image
Image
Image
User avatar
93henfan
Supporter
Supporter
Posts: 56358
Joined: Wed Jan 07, 2009 9:03 pm
Location: Slower Delaware

Re: stopping the triple option

Post by 93henfan »

"Paul Johnson" is the pen name Chuck Norris used when writing his first book:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/2939824/1990s ... ul-Johnson
Delaware Football: 1889-2012; 2022-
User avatar
Skjellyfetti
Anal
Anal
Posts: 14527
Joined: Tue Oct 07, 2008 9:56 pm
I am a fan of: Appalachian

Re: stopping the triple option

Post by Skjellyfetti »

This is how you do it*:
http://scores.espn.go.com/ncf/boxscore?gameId=313022026" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;















*It helps if you can pull a defensive performance like that out of your ass.
"The unmasking thing was all created by Devin Nunes"
- Richard Burr, (R-NC)
User avatar
kemajic
Level2
Level2
Posts: 796
Joined: Sat Dec 13, 2008 5:43 pm
I am a fan of: Montana
A.K.A.: Kemajic

Re: stopping the triple option

Post by kemajic »

Skjellyfetti wrote:This is how you do it*:
http://scores.espn.go.com/ncf/boxscore?gameId=313022026" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
*It helps if you can pull a defensive performance like that out of your ass.
Here's another:
http://espn.go.com/ncf/recap?gameId=312530149" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
"People will generally accept facts as truth only if the facts agree with what they already believe." - Andy Rooney
User avatar
93henfan
Supporter
Supporter
Posts: 56358
Joined: Wed Jan 07, 2009 9:03 pm
Location: Slower Delaware

Re: stopping the triple option

Post by 93henfan »

I risk overposting this one, but again, this is how it's done folks:

[youtube][/youtube]
Delaware Football: 1889-2012; 2022-
CAA Flagship
4th&29
4th&29
Posts: 38527
Joined: Mon Aug 24, 2009 5:01 pm
I am a fan of: Old Dominion
A.K.A.: He/His/Him/Himself
Location: Pizza Hell

Re: stopping the triple option

Post by CAA Flagship »

93henfan wrote:I risk overposting this one, but again, this is how it's done folks:

[youtube][/youtube]
As soon as I heard Pam Ward's voice, I had to stop. :ohno:
User avatar
93henfan
Supporter
Supporter
Posts: 56358
Joined: Wed Jan 07, 2009 9:03 pm
Location: Slower Delaware

Re: stopping the triple option

Post by 93henfan »

CAA Flagship wrote:
93henfan wrote:I risk overposting this one, but again, this is how it's done folks:

[youtube][/youtube]
As soon as I heard Pam Ward's voice, I had to stop. :ohno:
I'm glad I was at the game.
Delaware Football: 1889-2012; 2022-
User avatar
JohnStOnge
Egalitarian
Egalitarian
Posts: 20314
Joined: Sun Jan 03, 2010 5:47 pm
I am a fan of: McNeese State
A.K.A.: JohnStOnge

Re: stopping the triple option

Post by JohnStOnge »

Skjellyfetti wrote:This is how you do it*:
http://scores.espn.go.com/ncf/boxscore?gameId=313022026" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

What you're alluding to has to do with Southern Conference teams being familiar with Georgia Southern. One of the great advantages Georgia Southern has in the playoffs is that the teams they play usually are not all that familiar with them.

As I've written before: Alabama had problems with Georgia Southern's offense due to not being accustomed to it. I can pretty much guarantee you that nobody in FCS has the talent Alabama does on the defensive side of the ball and there aren't defensive coaching staffs on the FCS level than are better than Alabama's either.
Well, I believe that I must tell the truth
And say things as they really are
But if I told the truth and nothing but the truth
Could I ever be a star?

Deep Purple: No One Came
Image
Gsu_Eagle_89
Posts: 36
Joined: Wed Dec 07, 2011 7:23 pm
I am a fan of: Georgia Southern

Re: stopping the triple option

Post by Gsu_Eagle_89 »

Everybody thinks they can stop our triple option but very few actually have. 8-)
Image
6 National Championships and counting. How many you got?
User avatar
GannonFan
Level5
Level5
Posts: 18559
Joined: Mon Jul 23, 2007 6:51 am
I am a fan of: Delaware
A.K.A.: Non-Partisan Hack

Re: stopping the triple option

Post by GannonFan »

It's not like no one has the scheme defensively on how to stop the triple option - that's already well known. The key is having players who have played against it and have players that are pretty good. And it's far more than the defensive line - in fact, the secondary is probably the most important part as they need to be able to beat their blocks and tackle on the edges. That's why UD contained it last year - no big plays, forced turnovers, and kept it in check. Of course, they did have 4 Sr defensive backs who had ample experience playing Navy, who at least last year ran it better than GSU did. Realistically, there's only one team with a defense left, and that's NDSU - of course, not having seen the triple option will really test them. If NDSU can't beat GSU at home with an actual defense, then I think GSU is a heavy, heavy favorite in Frisco.
Proud Member of the Blue Hen Nation
User avatar
Grizalltheway
Supporter
Supporter
Posts: 35688
Joined: Sat Jul 14, 2007 10:01 pm
A.K.A.: DJ Honey BBQ
Location: BSC

Re: stopping the triple option

Post by Grizalltheway »

GannonFan wrote:It's not like no one has the scheme defensively on how to stop the triple option - that's already well known. The key is having players who have played against it and have players that are pretty good. And it's far more than the defensive line - in fact, the secondary is probably the most important part as they need to be able to beat their blocks and tackle on the edges. That's why UD contained it last year - no big plays, forced turnovers, and kept it in check. Of course, they did have 4 Sr defensive backs who had ample experience playing Navy, who at least last year ran it better than GSU did. Realistically, there's only one team with a defense left, and that's NDSU - of course, not having seen the triple option will really test them. If NDSU can't beat GSU at home with an actual defense, then I think GSU is a heavy, heavy favorite in Frisco.
:lol: :lol:

Sure thing, Gannon.
User avatar
GannonFan
Level5
Level5
Posts: 18559
Joined: Mon Jul 23, 2007 6:51 am
I am a fan of: Delaware
A.K.A.: Non-Partisan Hack

Re: stopping the triple option

Post by GannonFan »

Grizalltheway wrote:
GannonFan wrote:It's not like no one has the scheme defensively on how to stop the triple option - that's already well known. The key is having players who have played against it and have players that are pretty good. And it's far more than the defensive line - in fact, the secondary is probably the most important part as they need to be able to beat their blocks and tackle on the edges. That's why UD contained it last year - no big plays, forced turnovers, and kept it in check. Of course, they did have 4 Sr defensive backs who had ample experience playing Navy, who at least last year ran it better than GSU did. Realistically, there's only one team with a defense left, and that's NDSU - of course, not having seen the triple option will really test them. If NDSU can't beat GSU at home with an actual defense, then I think GSU is a heavy, heavy favorite in Frisco.
:lol: :lol:

Sure thing, Gannon.
Hey, I call em like I see em. I wouldn't put a lot of faith in the idea that Montana is going to stop GSU - you better hope you can outscore them. Could happen, GSU has a terrible defense so it's possible.
Proud Member of the Blue Hen Nation
User avatar
Grizalltheway
Supporter
Supporter
Posts: 35688
Joined: Sat Jul 14, 2007 10:01 pm
A.K.A.: DJ Honey BBQ
Location: BSC

Re: stopping the triple option

Post by Grizalltheway »

GannonFan wrote:
Grizalltheway wrote:
:lol: :lol:

Sure thing, Gannon.
Hey, I call em like I see em. I wouldn't put a lot of faith in the idea that Montana is going to stop GSU - you better hope you can outscore them. Could happen, GSU has a terrible defense so it's possible.
In all honesty, GSU scares the hell out of me-that's why I'm...deep breath...pulling for NDSU in this one. Just worrying about getting past SHSU for the moment, though.
User avatar
GannonFan
Level5
Level5
Posts: 18559
Joined: Mon Jul 23, 2007 6:51 am
I am a fan of: Delaware
A.K.A.: Non-Partisan Hack

Re: stopping the triple option

Post by GannonFan »

Grizalltheway wrote:
GannonFan wrote:
Hey, I call em like I see em. I wouldn't put a lot of faith in the idea that Montana is going to stop GSU - you better hope you can outscore them. Could happen, GSU has a terrible defense so it's possible.
In all honesty, GSU scares the hell out of me-that's why I'm...deep breath...pulling for NDSU in this one. Just worrying about getting past SHSU for the moment, though.
The only time I saw SHSU this season was that shellacking of MSU - I'd be worried about them too, if they play like that they're going to be a very tough out, especially playing at home.
Proud Member of the Blue Hen Nation
User avatar
Grizalltheway
Supporter
Supporter
Posts: 35688
Joined: Sat Jul 14, 2007 10:01 pm
A.K.A.: DJ Honey BBQ
Location: BSC

Re: stopping the triple option

Post by Grizalltheway »

GannonFan wrote:
Grizalltheway wrote:
In all honesty, GSU scares the hell out of me-that's why I'm...deep breath...pulling for NDSU in this one. Just worrying about getting past SHSU for the moment, though.
The only time I saw SHSU this season was that shellacking of MSU - I'd be worried about them too, if they play like that they're going to be a very tough out, especially playing at home.
The one caveat I would add is that MSU was never really as good as advertised, and they just flat gave up in the second half, much like they did against us (and NDSU last season).

As far as beating GSU, I think NDSU is good enough on D to at least slow them down, and they have the kind of smash mouth, ball control offense that you need to keep the TO on the sidelines. ODU proved that you can put points up on them, but I think their problem was they just scored them too quickly.
User avatar
SeattleGriz
Supporter
Supporter
Posts: 17865
Joined: Fri Aug 22, 2008 11:41 am
I am a fan of: Montana
A.K.A.: PhxGriz

Re: stopping the triple option

Post by SeattleGriz »

GannonFan wrote:
Grizalltheway wrote:
:lol: :lol:

Sure thing, Gannon.
Hey, I call em like I see em. I wouldn't put a lot of faith in the idea that Montana is going to stop GSU - you better hope you can outscore them. Could happen, GSU has a terrible defense so it's possible.
Even with three weeks to prepare?
Everything is better with SeattleGriz
∞∞∞
Level5
Level5
Posts: 12367
Joined: Thu Aug 13, 2009 7:30 am

Re: stopping the triple option

Post by ∞∞∞ »

Grizalltheway wrote:ODU proved that you can put points up on them, but I think their problem was they just scored them too quickly.
I wouldn't really use ODU to prove anything. Our offense has made a bunch of good defenses look silly this season; I don't think NDSU has the personal, schemes, or quickness our offense prides itself on (that's not a knock on NDSU...they're a MUCH more balanced team than ODU which is what's needed for success). I think if NDSU sticks with what they've done all year (grind-it-out/smashmouth offense, fantastic defense), they'll do just fine.
User avatar
SuperHornet
SuperHornet
SuperHornet
Posts: 20686
Joined: Fri Jul 13, 2007 7:24 pm
I am a fan of: Sac State
Location: Twentynine Palms, CA

Re: stopping the triple option

Post by SuperHornet »

About the only ESPN PxP voice I like better than Pam Ward is L-Co.

:mrgreen:
Image

SuperHornet's Athletics Hall of Fame includes Jacksonville State kicker Ashley Martin, the first girl to score in a Division I football game. She kicked 3 PATs in a 2001 game for J-State.
ODUfanRazor
Level1
Level1
Posts: 443
Joined: Tue Jul 21, 2009 2:07 am
I am a fan of: Old Dominion
A.K.A.: Razor Ramon

Re: stopping the triple option

Post by ODUfanRazor »

I watched UVA pull the upset on ga tech this year and the way mike London stopped the triple option was really quite fascinating.

They consistently blitzed their middle linebacker into the line of scrimmage.

Now I know most of you think you can't be aggressive against a TO and you have to stay disciplined and keep your assignments, but hear me out.

How this worked was complex. By blitzing the MLB, it did two things on a pretty consistent basis.

Either a. The MLB would get into the backfield and disrupt the timing of the play and force a pitch early or if not, at the very least it would screw up the blocking scheme of the offensive line.

They couldn't pull anyone out for pull blocks bevause if they did, the MLB would find the hole, get up in it and blow the play up in the backfield. When they stopped pulling, the guard or center would always have to take the MLB 1 on 1 and thus it took away that extra blocker that the TO thrives on.

I know everyone thinks this is nuts, but it really worked well for UVA. You can't sit back and wait for a team to run the triple option at you. They will run you over if you play passive, just look at what happened to odu.

Play aggressive, force the offense to change the blocking scheme and get tackles for losses.

Getting a 2 yard loss on first or second down is kryptonite to a TO. If they can't get those 3 or 4 yards on first and second because you are blowing it up before you get to the line of scrimmage, you can really hurt a TO.

I think not getting aggressive is why odu failed so miserably against ga southern and it cost our d coordinator his job.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3sPlkCO8-O0" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ItEUIG09pYE" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xjBwDdC59Y" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Die hippy scum.

Night posting......just posting, at night.

The greatest thing you will ever see:

http://www.monarchfans.com/index.php/co ... t-bazemore" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
User avatar
Tribe4SF
Level2
Level2
Posts: 1339
Joined: Fri Mar 20, 2009 7:42 am
I am a fan of: William and Mary
Location: Jamestown! Home of the Eagles!

Re: stopping the triple option

Post by Tribe4SF »

ODUfanRazor wrote:I watched UVA pull the upset on ga tech this year and the way mike London stopped the triple option was really quite fascinating.

They consistently blitzed their middle linebacker into the line of scrimmage.

Now I know most of you think you can't be aggressive against a TO and you have to stay disciplined and keep your assignments, but hear me out.

How this worked was complex. By blitzing the MLB, it did two things on a pretty consistent basis.

Either a. The MLB would get into the backfield and disrupt the timing of the play and force a pitch early or if not, at the very least it would screw up the blocking scheme of the offensive line.

They couldn't pull anyone out for pull blocks bevause if they did, the MLB would find the hole, get up in it and blow the play up in the backfield. When they stopped pulling, the guard or center would always have to take the MLB 1 on 1 and thus it took away that extra blocker that the TO thrives on.

I know everyone thinks this is nuts, but it really worked well for UVA. You can't sit back and wait for a team to run the triple option at you. They will run you over if you play passive, just look at what happened to odu.

Play aggressive, force the offense to change the blocking scheme and get tackles for losses.

Getting a 2 yard loss on first or second down is kryptonite to a TO. If they can't get those 3 or 4 yards on first and second because you are blowing it up before you get to the line of scrimmage, you can really hurt a TO.

I think not getting aggressive is why odu failed so miserably against ga southern and it cost our d coordinator his job.
Not exactly accurate. UVA played assignment football, and used a creative method to prepare by running the TO without a ball in practice forcing defenders to stick with their assignment. In the game they were able to get a lead early, which helps immensely against the TO, and got two interceptions in the second quarter. They ran the ball effectively, and were able to win time of possession. They forced the Ga Tech QB to keep the ball by taking the dive away, and playing disciplined on the edge, limiting big plays. Virginia had five tackles for loss in the game, four of them on the QB.

ODU's problems against Ga. Southern were primarily a result of getting beat with the dive play, but their corners were not able to get off blocks, and their safeties and LBs did not tackle well leading to big plays on the edge.
Go Tribe!!!
Image
Post Reply