Your DTs and DEs have to play disciplined assignment football "from the inside out"....keep the shoulders parrallel, close down the gaps by not letting the o-linemen in front of them block down without closing the hole, be patient and wait on the QB to come to you before committing....if you play smart, keeping your shoulders parrallel to the LOS and don't overcommit nor overpursue, you can force the TO outside and your linebackers and corners can have a field day....
NDSU will do this, no worries.
Re: stopping the triple option
Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 5:08 pm
by Bear
lakesbison wrote:Your DTs and DEs have to play disciplined assignment football "from the inside out"....keep the shoulders parrallel, close down the gaps by not letting the o-linemen in front of them block down without closing the hole, be patient and wait on the QB to come to you before committing....if you play smart, keeping your shoulders parrallel to the LOS and don't overcommit nor overpursue, you can force the TO outside and your linebackers and corners can have a field day....
NDSU will do this, no worries.
Ha! What a perfectly hilarious attempt to sound like you know even the first thing about football, let alone how to stop the Irresistible Force that is the GSU Triple Option! Oh lakesbison, you are a wondrously tremendous Clown!
Re: stopping the triple option
Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 5:13 pm
by Gil Dobie
Even Chuck Norris could not stop the Triple Option.
Re: stopping the triple option
Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 5:16 pm
by proasu89
lakesbison wrote:Your DTs and DEs have to play disciplined assignment football "from the inside out"....keep the shoulders parrallel, close down the gaps by not letting the o-linemen in front of them block down without closing the hole, be patient and wait on the QB to come to you before committing....if you play smart, keeping your shoulders parrallel to the LOS and don't overcommit nor overpursue, you can force the TO outside and your linebackers and corners can have a field day....
NDSU will do this, no worries.
You can't stop the TO. You can only hope to contain it!
Re: stopping the triple option
Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 5:22 pm
by 93henfan
Gil Dobie wrote:Even Chuck Norris could not stop the Triple Option.
This is not true. Chuck Norris counters A with his beard, B with his fist, and C with a well-timed roundhouse kick.
Re: stopping the triple option
Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 5:29 pm
by kalm
93henfan wrote:
Gil Dobie wrote:Even Chuck Norris could not stop the Triple Option.
This is not true. Chuck Norris counters A with his beard, B with his fist, and C with a well-timed roundhouse kick.
There is never more than one option when playing a Chuck Norris defense...death.
Re: stopping the triple option
Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 5:32 pm
by 93henfan
"Paul Johnson" is the pen name Chuck Norris used when writing his first book:
*It helps if you can pull a defensive performance like that out of your ass.
Re: stopping the triple option
Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 6:14 pm
by kemajic
Skjellyfetti wrote:This is how you do it*: http://scores.espn.go.com/ncf/boxscore?gameId=313022026" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; *It helps if you can pull a defensive performance like that out of your ass.
What you're alluding to has to do with Southern Conference teams being familiar with Georgia Southern. One of the great advantages Georgia Southern has in the playoffs is that the teams they play usually are not all that familiar with them.
As I've written before: Alabama had problems with Georgia Southern's offense due to not being accustomed to it. I can pretty much guarantee you that nobody in FCS has the talent Alabama does on the defensive side of the ball and there aren't defensive coaching staffs on the FCS level than are better than Alabama's either.
Re: stopping the triple option
Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 7:33 pm
by Gsu_Eagle_89
Everybody thinks they can stop our triple option but very few actually have.
Re: stopping the triple option
Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 8:28 pm
by GannonFan
It's not like no one has the scheme defensively on how to stop the triple option - that's already well known. The key is having players who have played against it and have players that are pretty good. And it's far more than the defensive line - in fact, the secondary is probably the most important part as they need to be able to beat their blocks and tackle on the edges. That's why UD contained it last year - no big plays, forced turnovers, and kept it in check. Of course, they did have 4 Sr defensive backs who had ample experience playing Navy, who at least last year ran it better than GSU did. Realistically, there's only one team with a defense left, and that's NDSU - of course, not having seen the triple option will really test them. If NDSU can't beat GSU at home with an actual defense, then I think GSU is a heavy, heavy favorite in Frisco.
Re: stopping the triple option
Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 8:40 pm
by Grizalltheway
GannonFan wrote:It's not like no one has the scheme defensively on how to stop the triple option - that's already well known. The key is having players who have played against it and have players that are pretty good. And it's far more than the defensive line - in fact, the secondary is probably the most important part as they need to be able to beat their blocks and tackle on the edges. That's why UD contained it last year - no big plays, forced turnovers, and kept it in check. Of course, they did have 4 Sr defensive backs who had ample experience playing Navy, who at least last year ran it better than GSU did. Realistically, there's only one team with a defense left, and that's NDSU - of course, not having seen the triple option will really test them. If NDSU can't beat GSU at home with an actual defense, then I think GSU is a heavy, heavy favorite in Frisco.
Sure thing, Gannon.
Re: stopping the triple option
Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 9:35 pm
by GannonFan
Grizalltheway wrote:
GannonFan wrote:It's not like no one has the scheme defensively on how to stop the triple option - that's already well known. The key is having players who have played against it and have players that are pretty good. And it's far more than the defensive line - in fact, the secondary is probably the most important part as they need to be able to beat their blocks and tackle on the edges. That's why UD contained it last year - no big plays, forced turnovers, and kept it in check. Of course, they did have 4 Sr defensive backs who had ample experience playing Navy, who at least last year ran it better than GSU did. Realistically, there's only one team with a defense left, and that's NDSU - of course, not having seen the triple option will really test them. If NDSU can't beat GSU at home with an actual defense, then I think GSU is a heavy, heavy favorite in Frisco.
Sure thing, Gannon.
Hey, I call em like I see em. I wouldn't put a lot of faith in the idea that Montana is going to stop GSU - you better hope you can outscore them. Could happen, GSU has a terrible defense so it's possible.
Re: stopping the triple option
Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 9:40 pm
by Grizalltheway
GannonFan wrote:
Grizalltheway wrote:
Sure thing, Gannon.
Hey, I call em like I see em. I wouldn't put a lot of faith in the idea that Montana is going to stop GSU - you better hope you can outscore them. Could happen, GSU has a terrible defense so it's possible.
In all honesty, GSU scares the hell out of me-that's why I'm...deep breath...pulling for NDSU in this one. Just worrying about getting past SHSU for the moment, though.
Re: stopping the triple option
Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 9:48 pm
by GannonFan
Grizalltheway wrote:
GannonFan wrote:
Hey, I call em like I see em. I wouldn't put a lot of faith in the idea that Montana is going to stop GSU - you better hope you can outscore them. Could happen, GSU has a terrible defense so it's possible.
In all honesty, GSU scares the hell out of me-that's why I'm...deep breath...pulling for NDSU in this one. Just worrying about getting past SHSU for the moment, though.
The only time I saw SHSU this season was that shellacking of MSU - I'd be worried about them too, if they play like that they're going to be a very tough out, especially playing at home.
Re: stopping the triple option
Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 10:00 pm
by Grizalltheway
GannonFan wrote:
Grizalltheway wrote:
In all honesty, GSU scares the hell out of me-that's why I'm...deep breath...pulling for NDSU in this one. Just worrying about getting past SHSU for the moment, though.
The only time I saw SHSU this season was that shellacking of MSU - I'd be worried about them too, if they play like that they're going to be a very tough out, especially playing at home.
The one caveat I would add is that MSU was never really as good as advertised, and they just flat gave up in the second half, much like they did against us (and NDSU last season).
As far as beating GSU, I think NDSU is good enough on D to at least slow them down, and they have the kind of smash mouth, ball control offense that you need to keep the TO on the sidelines. ODU proved that you can put points up on them, but I think their problem was they just scored them too quickly.
Re: stopping the triple option
Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 10:11 pm
by SeattleGriz
GannonFan wrote:
Grizalltheway wrote:
Sure thing, Gannon.
Hey, I call em like I see em. I wouldn't put a lot of faith in the idea that Montana is going to stop GSU - you better hope you can outscore them. Could happen, GSU has a terrible defense so it's possible.
Even with three weeks to prepare?
Re: stopping the triple option
Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 10:13 pm
by ∞∞∞
Grizalltheway wrote:ODU proved that you can put points up on them, but I think their problem was they just scored them too quickly.
I wouldn't really use ODU to prove anything. Our offense has made a bunch of good defenses look silly this season; I don't think NDSU has the personal, schemes, or quickness our offense prides itself on (that's not a knock on NDSU...they're a MUCH more balanced team than ODU which is what's needed for success). I think if NDSU sticks with what they've done all year (grind-it-out/smashmouth offense, fantastic defense), they'll do just fine.
Re: stopping the triple option
Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 11:52 pm
by SuperHornet
About the only ESPN PxP voice I like better than Pam Ward is L-Co.
Re: stopping the triple option
Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2011 3:41 am
by ODUfanRazor
I watched UVA pull the upset on ga tech this year and the way mike London stopped the triple option was really quite fascinating.
They consistently blitzed their middle linebacker into the line of scrimmage.
Now I know most of you think you can't be aggressive against a TO and you have to stay disciplined and keep your assignments, but hear me out.
How this worked was complex. By blitzing the MLB, it did two things on a pretty consistent basis.
Either a. The MLB would get into the backfield and disrupt the timing of the play and force a pitch early or if not, at the very least it would screw up the blocking scheme of the offensive line.
They couldn't pull anyone out for pull blocks bevause if they did, the MLB would find the hole, get up in it and blow the play up in the backfield. When they stopped pulling, the guard or center would always have to take the MLB 1 on 1 and thus it took away that extra blocker that the TO thrives on.
I know everyone thinks this is nuts, but it really worked well for UVA. You can't sit back and wait for a team to run the triple option at you. They will run you over if you play passive, just look at what happened to odu.
Play aggressive, force the offense to change the blocking scheme and get tackles for losses.
Getting a 2 yard loss on first or second down is kryptonite to a TO. If they can't get those 3 or 4 yards on first and second because you are blowing it up before you get to the line of scrimmage, you can really hurt a TO.
I think not getting aggressive is why odu failed so miserably against ga southern and it cost our d coordinator his job.
Re: stopping the triple option
Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2011 4:25 am
by Tribe4SF
ODUfanRazor wrote:I watched UVA pull the upset on ga tech this year and the way mike London stopped the triple option was really quite fascinating.
They consistently blitzed their middle linebacker into the line of scrimmage.
Now I know most of you think you can't be aggressive against a TO and you have to stay disciplined and keep your assignments, but hear me out.
How this worked was complex. By blitzing the MLB, it did two things on a pretty consistent basis.
Either a. The MLB would get into the backfield and disrupt the timing of the play and force a pitch early or if not, at the very least it would screw up the blocking scheme of the offensive line.
They couldn't pull anyone out for pull blocks bevause if they did, the MLB would find the hole, get up in it and blow the play up in the backfield. When they stopped pulling, the guard or center would always have to take the MLB 1 on 1 and thus it took away that extra blocker that the TO thrives on.
I know everyone thinks this is nuts, but it really worked well for UVA. You can't sit back and wait for a team to run the triple option at you. They will run you over if you play passive, just look at what happened to odu.
Play aggressive, force the offense to change the blocking scheme and get tackles for losses.
Getting a 2 yard loss on first or second down is kryptonite to a TO. If they can't get those 3 or 4 yards on first and second because you are blowing it up before you get to the line of scrimmage, you can really hurt a TO.
I think not getting aggressive is why odu failed so miserably against ga southern and it cost our d coordinator his job.
Not exactly accurate. UVA played assignment football, and used a creative method to prepare by running the TO without a ball in practice forcing defenders to stick with their assignment. In the game they were able to get a lead early, which helps immensely against the TO, and got two interceptions in the second quarter. They ran the ball effectively, and were able to win time of possession. They forced the Ga Tech QB to keep the ball by taking the dive away, and playing disciplined on the edge, limiting big plays. Virginia had five tackles for loss in the game, four of them on the QB.
ODU's problems against Ga. Southern were primarily a result of getting beat with the dive play, but their corners were not able to get off blocks, and their safeties and LBs did not tackle well leading to big plays on the edge.