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Griz QB charged with rape

Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 6:41 pm
by clenz
On my phone so I dont have a link but can anyone confirm?

Huge news if true

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Re: Griz QB charged with rape

Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 6:48 pm
by Hambone
clenz wrote:On my phone so I dont have a link but can anyone confirm?

Huge news if true

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Truth.

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Re: Griz QB charged with rape

Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 6:49 pm
by Grizalltheway
Yep.

Re: Griz QB charged with rape

Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 6:49 pm
by uofmman1122
It's true. Dunno why they took so long, but it is what it is.

Heard we have a guy from Stanford, but that's just rumors.

Re: Griz QB charged with rape

Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 7:08 pm
by Skjellyfetti
uofmman1122 wrote:It's true. Dunno why they took so long, but it is what it is.

Heard we have a guy from Stanford, but that's just rumors.
When does y'all's camp start? Better get there soon.

Though, he's from Stanford so he can probably pick up the playbook on the flight over.

Re: Griz QB charged with rape

Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 7:08 pm
by SuperHornet
Exactly the right action by the school, too. To ignore it would be ludicrous, but to expell him sans conviction opens the school up to a huge wrongful termination suit. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if we see something of that nature VERY soon from Pflugrad, particularly if either of these kids are exonerated.

Anyone else notice the usual Florio hatchet job? The school CLEARLY labelled Johnson as SUSPENDED, yet she brought up the expulsion nonsense again, as if the school is hiding something. This hack with an agenda has GOT to go....

Re: Griz QB charged with rape

Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 7:22 pm
by uofmman1122
Skjellyfetti wrote:
uofmman1122 wrote:It's true. Dunno why they took so long, but it is what it is.

Heard we have a guy from Stanford, but that's just rumors.
When does y'all's camp start? Better get there soon.

Though, he's from Stanford so he can probably pick up the playbook on the flight over.
The grapevine indicates that he's been here for maybe a week or two already, throwing to the WRs in voluntary drills.

Nobody knows who it is, though. eGriz narrowed it down to either Robbie Picazo, a pocket QB, or Dallas Lloyd, a 4-star #15 overall rated dual-threat QB.

I doubt it's Lloyd, but you never know. Picazo doesn't fit the offensive style so much, though.

I think our signed QB from Hawaii will do just fine, honestly.

Re: Griz QB charged with rape

Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 7:28 pm
by SACCAT
SuperHornet wrote:Exactly the right action by the school, too. To ignore it would be ludicrous, but to expell him sans conviction opens the school up to a huge wrongful termination suit. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if we see something of that nature VERY soon from Pflugrad, particularly if either of these kids are exonerated.

Anyone else notice the usual Florio hatchet job? The school CLEARLY labelled Johnson as SUSPENDED, yet she brought up the expulsion nonsense again, as if the school is hiding something. This hack with an agenda has GOT to go....
Pflugrad was fired months ago. JJ was expelled. This is a sad day for everyone involved.

Re: Griz QB charged with rape

Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 7:34 pm
by uofmman1122
SACCAT wrote:
SuperHornet wrote:Exactly the right action by the school, too. To ignore it would be ludicrous, but to expell him sans conviction opens the school up to a huge wrongful termination suit. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if we see something of that nature VERY soon from Pflugrad, particularly if either of these kids are exonerated.

Anyone else notice the usual Florio hatchet job? The school CLEARLY labelled Johnson as SUSPENDED, yet she brought up the expulsion nonsense again, as if the school is hiding something. This hack with an agenda has GOT to go....
Pflugrad was fired months ago. JJ was expelled. This is a sad day for everyone involved.
No kidding. If the football team wants to get Florio off their backs, then go to class, play the game, and make sure she never has anything to write about them ever again.

If JJ did everything in the affidavit, Florio's writing is the very least of his worries, and should be the least of our worries, as well.

Re: Griz QB charged with rape

Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 7:51 pm
by Mvemjsunpx
SACCAT wrote:
SuperHornet wrote:Exactly the right action by the school, too. To ignore it would be ludicrous, but to expell him sans conviction opens the school up to a huge wrongful termination suit. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if we see something of that nature VERY soon from Pflugrad, particularly if either of these kids are exonerated.

Anyone else notice the usual Florio hatchet job? The school CLEARLY labelled Johnson as SUSPENDED, yet she brought up the expulsion nonsense again, as if the school is hiding something. This hack with an agenda has GOT to go....
Pflugrad was fired months ago. JJ was expelled. This is a sad day for everyone involved.
JJ was reportedly voted to be expelled in May, but it was appealed so he can't actually be kicked out until the appeal process is over.

Of course, all of that only matters if he's found not guilty. He'll have more pressing concerns otherwise, like applying his math skills to cigarettes.

Re: Griz QB charged with rape

Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 8:11 pm
by SACCAT
Mvemjsunpx wrote:
SACCAT wrote:
Pflugrad was fired months ago. JJ was expelled. This is a sad day for everyone involved.
JJ was reportedly voted to be expelled in May, but it was appealed so he can't actually be kicked out until the appeal process is over.

Of course, all of that only matters if he's found not guilty. He'll have more pressing concerns otherwise, like applying his math skills to cigarettes.
Are you saying that he is still on the team until the trial is over? And he wasn't reported to be expelled, he was voted to be expelled.

Re: Griz QB charged with rape

Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 8:39 pm
by rkwittem
That's too bad for Montana. Side question- who's Montana's coach now? I haven't followed your threads about this mess that closely, so I have no idea.

Re: Griz QB charged with rape

Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 8:43 pm
by SACCAT
rkwittem wrote:That's too bad for Montana. Side question- who's Montana's coach now? I haven't followed your threads about this mess that closely, so I have no idea.
A long time assistant that couldn't win at the NAIA level...

Re: Griz QB charged with rape

Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 8:48 pm
by oceanvue
uofmman1122 wrote:
Skjellyfetti wrote:
When does y'all's camp start? Better get there soon.

Though, he's from Stanford so he can probably pick up the playbook on the flight over.
The grapevine indicates that he's been here for maybe a week or two already, throwing to the WRs in voluntary drills.

Nobody knows who it is, though. eGriz narrowed it down to either Robbie Picazo, a pocket QB, or Dallas Lloyd, a 4-star #15 overall rated dual-threat QB.

I doubt it's Lloyd, but you never know. Picazo doesn't fit the offensive style so much, though.

I think our signed QB from Hawaii will do just fine, honestly.
No way would it be Robbie Picazo. Know the kid and the family. I would have heard had he left Stanford.

Re: Griz QB charged with rape

Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 9:26 pm
by uofmman1122
oceanvue wrote: No way would it be Robbie Picazo. Know the kid and the family. I would have heard had he left Stanford.
I guess that's good to know. I mean, it's all speculation at this point until next week when camp starts.
SACCAT wrote:A long time assistant that couldn't win at the NAIA level...
:lol:

Ass. :roll:

Re: Griz QB charged with rape

Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 9:26 pm
by Screamin_Eagle174
SACCAT wrote:
Mvemjsunpx wrote:
JJ was reportedly voted to be expelled in May, but it was appealed so he can't actually be kicked out until the appeal process is over.

Of course, all of that only matters if he's found not guilty. He'll have more pressing concerns otherwise, like applying his math skills to cigarettes.
Are you saying that he is still on the team until the trial is over? And he wasn't reported to be expelled, he was voted to be expelled.
From what I've read/heard, he's suspended effective immediately. I guess suspension isn't quite expulsion, but it will be soon, I'm sure.

Re: Griz QB charged with rape

Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 9:28 pm
by uofmman1122
Screamin_Eagle174 wrote:
SACCAT wrote:
Are you saying that he is still on the team until the trial is over? And he wasn't reported to be expelled, he was voted to be expelled.
From what I've read/heard, he's suspended effective immediately. I guess suspension isn't quite expulsion, but it will be soon, I'm sure.
You can pretty much guarantee he's gone. This made the BoR deciding his appeal's decision pretty damn easy.

Re: Griz QB charged with rape

Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 9:53 pm
by Mvemjsunpx
SACCAT wrote:
Mvemjsunpx wrote:
JJ was reportedly voted to be expelled in May, but it was appealed so he can't actually be kicked out until the appeal process is over.

Of course, all of that only matters if he's found not guilty. He'll have more pressing concerns otherwise, like applying his math skills to cigarettes.
Are you saying that he is still on the team until the trial is over? And he wasn't reported to be expelled, he was voted to be expelled.
Um, isn't that what I said?


I assume he will still technically be on the team until either there's a conviction/plea deal or the pending expulsion is final. He's definitely not going to be playing regardless…

Re: Griz QB charged with rape

Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 10:00 pm
by JALMOND
Very unfortunate, for the girl, for Johnson, for the school, the team, everyone all around. Johnson is not a bad kid. He seemed very personable while we were recruiting him. This is something we could not see happening from him. Very unfortunate for everyone.

:o :ohno: :o

Re: Griz QB charged with rape

Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 10:49 pm
by SACCAT
Mvemjsunpx wrote:
SACCAT wrote:
Are you saying that he is still on the team until the trial is over? And he wasn't reported to be expelled, he was voted to be expelled.
Um, isn't that what I said?


I assume he will still technically be on the team until either there's a conviction/plea deal or the pending expulsion is final. He's definitely not going to be playing regardless…
First off , no that is not what you said. You said he was "reportedly voted expelled". It wasn't reportedly , HE WAS EXPELLED. he appealed the expulsion and was allowed to still be on the team as the appeal was going on. He was then charged with rape, and will now NOT be on the team ( your president said it tonight " Jordan Johnson is no longer on the team). I am not happy with what is going on at MSU or UM right now, but don't act like you should keep him on the team until this plays out...what are you PENN STATE?

Re: Griz QB charged with rape

Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 11:18 pm
by Mvemjsunpx
SACCAT wrote:
Mvemjsunpx wrote:
Um, isn't that what I said?


I assume he will still technically be on the team until either there's a conviction/plea deal or the pending expulsion is final. He's definitely not going to be playing regardless…
First off , no that is not what you said. You said he was "reportedly voted expelled". It wasn't reportedly , HE WAS EXPELLED. he appealed the expulsion and was allowed to still be on the team as the appeal was going on.
I said "reportedly" because the original article from a month or so ago didn't mention him by name (we just all assumed it was Johnson because it was obvious). link
SACCAT wrote: He was then charged with rape, and will now NOT be on the team ( your president said it tonight " Jordan Johnson is no longer on the team).
Uh, here's the actual quote (from here):
University of Montana President Royce Engstrom said in an interview with NBC Montana that Johnson had been removed from the team.

"Given the charges that have been filed against Mr. Johnson, our student athlete conduct code calls for immediate suspension from team activities, and we will put that into affect right away," said Engstrom. "We will just have to let due process play out."

While he's been suspended indefinitely from the football team, Johnson's still enrolled as a UM student at this time.
So he is still technically a member of the team right now.

SACCAT wrote:I am not happy with what is going on at MSU or UM right now, but don't act like you should keep him on the team until this plays out...what are you PENN STATE?
Um, yeah, you're a fucking idiot.

Comparing this situation to Penn State (where a school is known to have actively covered up serial child molestation) is ridiculous & you know it's ridiculous, so it seems clear to me you aren't really interested in a serious discussion. You obviously aren't as well-versed on the facts of this as you think you are, either, so maybe you should educate yourself before barging through the door like an ignorant, sanctimonious asshole.

Re: Griz QB charged with rape

Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2012 12:36 am
by Big McLargehuge
This has been an awful summer to be a Penn State fan who went to Montana.

Re: Griz QB charged with rape

Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2012 6:52 am
by SouthDakotaGrizzly
The Dallas Lloyd rumors have been floating around, but no real confirmation there. Delaney told one of the Missoula TV reporters yesterday that a drop down was "highly unlikely" at this point, but he also claimed to have no knowledge of what last week's press conference announcing his 2 year contract was about, when in fact he probably did...the guy apparently has a good poker face. So, who knows? Barring a transfer, redshirt frosh McKinney seems best suited to run the offense. Gotta wonder if Nate Montana is kicking himself for transferring when he did.

Re: Griz QB charged with rape

Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2012 6:58 am
by Ibanez
Big McLargehuge wrote:This has been an awful summer to be a Penn State fan who went to Montana.
Damn.


This sucks for Montana. Who is the back up?

Re: Griz QB charged with rape

Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2012 7:53 am
by SouthDakotaGrizzly
Ibanez wrote:
Big McLargehuge wrote:This has been an awful summer to be a Penn State fan who went to Montana.
Damn.


This sucks for Montana. Who is the back up?
Redshirt Sophomore Shay Smithwick-Hann (more of a pocket QB)
Redshirt Freshman Trent McKinney (dual threat QB)
True Freshman Brady Gustafson (really tall QB....6'7")

Like I said above, McKinney seems best suited to run the offense, assuming the Griz will run an offense similar to last season's. Delaney indicated that would be the case when he took over head coaching duties during spring ball, but he also had Johnson as the QB back then.