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South Carolina State considers dropping to DII
Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2012 10:00 am
by dbackjon
Officials at South Carolina State University informed its Board of Trustees yesterday that a $6 million deficit may force significant cost cutting measures university-wide. Newly-hired vice-president of finance Eric Eaton proposed a plan that would implement a hiring freeze, cuts to existing faculty positions, and a potential move to Division II.
Re: South Carolina State considers dropping to DII
Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2012 10:07 am
by TribeFanInNC
I'm curious...
Winston-Salem State abandoned their transition to D1, and returned to D2. When did the last full-fledged D1 program move to D2?
Re: South Carolina State considers dropping to DII
Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2012 10:14 am
by GSUhooligan
They didn't have football, but Birmingham Southern and UNO have gone down to D-3. In the last few years.
Re: South Carolina State considers dropping to DII
Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2012 10:16 am
by 89Hen
TribeFanInNC wrote:I'm curious...
Winston-Salem State abandoned their transition to D1, and returned to D2. When did the last full-fledged D1 program move to D2?
Can't think of any that had football that did it.

Re: South Carolina State considers dropping to DII
Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2012 10:24 am
by dbackjon
GSUhooligan wrote:They didn't have football, but Birmingham Southern and UNO have gone down to D-3. In the last few years.
UNO never made it to D3. They just decided to stay DI, and are joining the Southland.
Centenary dropped to D3 recently
Re: South Carolina State considers dropping to DII
Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2012 10:43 am
by Franks Tanks
89Hen wrote:TribeFanInNC wrote:I'm curious...
Winston-Salem State abandoned their transition to D1, and returned to D2. When did the last full-fledged D1 program move to D2?
Can't think of any that had football that did it.

West Texas A&M
Re: South Carolina State considers dropping to DII
Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2012 11:54 am
by 89Hen
Franks Tanks wrote:89Hen wrote:
Can't think of any that had football that did it.

West Texas A&M
There you go. Looks like they moved down in 1985 from the MVC. Good recall on that one Frank.

Re: South Carolina State considers dropping to DII
Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2012 11:57 am
by Franks Tanks
89Hen wrote:Franks Tanks wrote:
West Texas A&M
There you go. Looks like they moved down in 1985 from the MVC. Good recall on that one Frank.

I remember that from when this topic came up before. Typically I wouldn't memorize such things.
Re: South Carolina State considers dropping to DII
Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2012 12:12 pm
by AZGrizFan
Re: South Carolina State considers dropping to DII
Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2012 6:33 am
by Libertine
Wow, back in February it was "only" a $4 million shortfall. I guess this is the same song, second verse, a little bit louder and little bit worse.
http://www.thestate.com/2012/02/04/2139 ... ficit.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Re: South Carolina State considers dropping to DII
Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2012 1:19 pm
by tampajag
well Georgia State seems not to be able to handle lower division teams
no disrespect meant Bulldogs

Re: South Carolina State considers dropping to DII
Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2012 1:19 pm
by jmufan
is there a link to confirm this, just curious.
Re: South Carolina State considers dropping to DII
Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2012 1:21 pm
by dbackjon
jmufan wrote:is there a link to confirm this, just curious.
http://www.hbcudigest.com/facing-6-mill ... athletics/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Re: South Carolina State considers dropping to DII
Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2012 2:07 pm
by dal4018
dbackjon wrote:Officials at South Carolina State University informed its Board of Trustees yesterday that a $6 million deficit may force significant cost cutting measures university-wide. Newly-hired vice-president of finance Eric Eaton proposed a plan that would implement a hiring freeze, cuts to existing faculty positions, and a potential move to Division II.
Where are past alumni when you need them and the list is long and distinguished!!!!!
Re: South Carolina State considers dropping to DII
Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2012 2:08 pm
by dal4018
Maybe they will head to the CIAA!!!
Re: South Carolina State considers dropping to DII
Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2012 4:34 pm
by TribeFanInNC
dal4018 wrote:Maybe they will head to the CIAA!!!
That would be the most logical, low-cost destination, wouldn't it?
Re: South Carolina State considers dropping to DII
Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2012 8:13 pm
by DJnVa
Yeah...any school not beating Ga State by 30+ needs to think hard about that...
Re: South Carolina State considers dropping to DII
Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2012 8:22 pm
by GoAgs72
Winston-Salem was pathetic in FCS. In D2, they were 11-1 last year and ranked 15th in the pre-season poll this year. It makes sense for a team to drop down if they aren't cutting it financially and performance-wise.
Re: South Carolina State considers dropping to DII
Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 3:27 am
by dal4018
TribeFanInNC wrote:dal4018 wrote:Maybe they will head to the CIAA!!!
That would be the most logical, low-cost destination, wouldn't it?
That or the SIAC I believe that is where they got their start.
Re: South Carolina State considers dropping to DII
Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 3:28 am
by dal4018
GoAgs72 wrote:Winston-Salem was pathetic in FCS. In D2, they were 11-1 last year and ranked 15th in the pre-season poll this year. It makes sense for a team to drop down if they aren't cutting it financially and performance-wise.
Its no secret that schools in the hbcu family all suffer from financial deficiencies.
Re: South Carolina State considers dropping to DII
Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 4:25 am
by 93henfan
DAL4018 WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY OF BEING DII DOES THAT MAKE YOU SAD!!!?!
Re: South Carolina State considers dropping to DII
Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 7:25 am
by LeadBolt
PERHAPS GA. ST. SHOULD CONSIDER D-III, NO WAIT, THEY ARE GOING FBS...
Re: South Carolina State considers dropping to DII
Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 12:16 pm
by dal4018
93henfan wrote:DAL4018 WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY OF BEING DII DOES THAT MAKE YOU SAD!!!?!
Of course the idea doesn't appeal to me but if they can't come up with the money what choice does the school have.
Re: South Carolina State considers dropping to DII
Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 8:33 pm
by BlackFalkin
So how how do you save money by going to d2? less skollies? closer opponets?
Re: South Carolina State considers dropping to DII
Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2012 2:22 am
by clenz
30 less schollarships, likely lower base coach pay all the way around once the current contacts are up, lower recruiting budget, tighter recruiting range, less plane travel, etc...
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