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10/7: Delaware State at Delaware 3:30 PM

10/12: Richmond @ JMU 3:30
10/12: Villanova @ Towson 7 PM

11/9: JMU @ New Hampshire

11/23: JMU @ Towson

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# of times televised:
JMU: 3
TU: 2
VU: 1
UNH: 1
UR: 1
UD: 1
W&M: 0
Maine: 0
URI: 0
SBU: 0
Albany: 0

Seems about right to me..

BS schedule.....exactly what I expected.

danefan wrote:BS schedule.....exactly what I expected.

It's your FIRST year in the conference...ease up, sister.

AZGrizFan wrote:

danefan wrote:BS schedule.....exactly what I expected.

It's your FIRST year in the conference...ease up, sister.

I didn't expect us to get a national TV game. There are much better games on 11/23 than another JMU game.

William & Mary @ Richmond
Delaware @ Villanova

Richmond @ SBU on 11/9 is a better showcase for the CAA than JMU @ UNH

Looks like they are putting a lot of eggs in one basket.

TribeFanInNC wrote:Looks like they are putting a lot of eggs in one basket.

A basket with a 50/50 chance of having a CUSA sticker on it come the time these games are played.

One major factor is butts in seats.

2012 NBC Sports televised CAA games:
Delaware State at Delaware
William & Mary at Towson
Towson at James Madison
Delaware at Old Dominion
Towson at Delaware
Old Dominion at James Madison

2011 attendance rankings & 2012 NBC Sports appearances:
1. JMU/25,002: 2
2. ODU/19,818: 2
3. UD/19,019: 3
4. GST/14,286: 0 (picked to finish next to last).
5. W&M/11,014: 1
6. Towson/8,949: 3 (preseason # 1 pick, 2 of the 3 were on the road).
7. Villanova/8,782: 0
8. UR/8,700: 0
9. UNH/7,525: 0
10. Maine/5,803: 0
11: URI/4715: 0
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2012 attendance rankings & 2013 NBC Sports games # appearances:
1. JMU/22,783: 3
2. UD/18,542: 1
3. W&M/9,884: 0 (finished 2-9 last yr)
4. UR/8700: 1
5. Towson/8,691: 2
6. UNH/7,746: 1
7. Villanova/7,144: 1 (pre season #1 pick- game is @ TU)
8. SBU/5,826: 0
9. Maine/4,150: 0
10. URI/4,150: 0
11. Albany/4,004: 0
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BDKJMU wrote:Its clear it all about buts in seats.

Well, there might be nothing worse than watching a football game on TV that even locals don't want to go to, and that looks like its being played in a shitty high school stadium.

2012 predicted order of finish by the coaches and 2012 # of NBC Sports appearances:
1. Towson: 3
2. Old Dominion: 2
3. James Madison: 2
4. New Hampshire: 0
5. Delaware: 3
6. Maine: 0
7. William and Mary: 1
8. Villanova: 0
9. Richmond: 0
10. Rhode Island: 0
11. Georgia State: 0

danefan wrote:BS schedule.....exactly what I expected.

Dane, see my post above. Obvious pattern:
-No team that has finished in the bottom 4 in attendance the prior season has played in a televised game.
-No team that has finished in the bottom 5 in attendance the prior season has hosted.
-No team that was predicted to finish in the bottom 4 has made an appearance.

Its obvious that the #1 criteria is attendance, a distant 2nd criteria being how the team is predicted to do.

Sure, JMU will likely only be preseason picked 6th or so, but have a nice 62 million stadium expansion that puts it at/near the top of I-AA stadiums, and has been 22-25k attendance te last 2 seasons.

Here's another trend: NBC has yet to televise a game without an all-sports CAA member in it.

The CAA hasn't announced the rest of the televised games yet, which will mostly be Comcast.

Between Comcast Sports Net Mid Atlantic (CSN MA), Comcast Sports Net Philly (CSN P), Comcast Sports Net New England (CSN NE) and The Comcast Network (TCN) every team should get at least an appearance. Looking at last season's schedule I counted 17 games that had CAA teams on the Comcast Networks, and every CAA team had at least 2 televised games except for URI, who only had 1.

I have no beef with @ JMU being a contest (as long as JMU doesn't announce CUSA in the near future).

I also had ZERO expectation of Albany hosting or being an opponent in any game, except for possible the @ JMU game since its JMU's family weekend and that would have been a good game to televise.

What I don't understand are games like JMU @ UNH when you have William & Mary @ Richmond and
Delaware @ Villanova the same day.

Makes no sense to have JMU on the road twice in those games.

11/23 is the CAA's rivalry weekend now and for the foreseeable future. JMU @ Towson is probably the one of the least interesting of all the rivalries that weekend.

danefan wrote:

AZGrizFan wrote:
It's your FIRST year in the conference...ease up, sister.

I didn't expect us to get a national TV game. There are much better games on 11/23 than another JMU game.

William & Mary @ Richmond
Delaware @ Villanova

Richmond @ SBU on 11/9 is a better showcase for the CAA than JMU @ UNH

Baloney.
Likely preseason #6 in the CAA JMU @ likely preseason #2 pick TU, avg attendance last season 8,691.
Likely preseason #7-#8 in the CAA Delaware @ likely preseason #1 pick Villanova, avg attendance last season 7,144.
Likely preseason #8-#9 in the CAA W&M @ likely preseason #3-#5 pick UR, avg attendance last season 8,700.

The last time JMU played @ TU was in 2010, when TU still sucked, finishing 1-10/0-8, and that game still drew over 9k. Now Towson is good and their avg attedance has shot way up. JMU has its largest alumni presence in the DC/Baltimore metro area. If JMU is heading into that game at 6-4 or better, and TU is 7-4 or better, with both teams in the playoff hunt, that game will be an 11k sellout.

UD was 2-6 in the CAA last season (yes they will be improved), and Villanova should be the preseason #1 pick in the CAA. That game should be a sellout at 12,500. A little bigger stadium than TU, but not nearly as nice. With the tradition of that game you could make an arguement that it would be the better game to televise, but not as you put it "much better".

W&M was 1-7 in the CAA last season (yes, they will be improved), and UR can't get more than 8700 in attendance. Plus its 2 VA teams, one of them being a smaller private, and the other being the smallest public in the CAA, which is a more limited audience. Yes, its a storied rivalry, but to say that is a "much better game" to televise than JMU @ TU is laughable.

danefan wrote:

AZGrizFan wrote:
It's your FIRST year in the conference...ease up, sister.

I didn't expect us to get a national TV game. There are much better games on 11/23 than another JMU game.

William & Mary @ Richmond
Delaware @ Villanova

Richmond @ SBU on 11/9 is a better showcase for the CAA than JMU @ UNH

That it debatable.
-Both UR and SBU will likely be preseason #3-#5 in the CAA. But SBU averaged only 5,826 last season.
-JMU will likely be be the preseason #6 in the CAA, and UNH will likely be preseason #3-#5. UNH avg 7,746 last season, nearly 2k more than SBU. But SBU's stadium is a lot nicer than UNH's, which sucks balls.

danefan wrote:I have no beef with @ JMU being a contest (as long as JMU doesn't announce CUSA in the near future).

I also had ZERO expectation of Albany hosting or being an opponent in any game, except for possible the @ JMU game since its JMU's family weekend and that would have been a good game to televise.

What I don't understand are games like JMU @ UNH when you have William & Mary @ Richmond and
Delaware @ Villanova the same day.

Makes no sense to have JMU on the road twice in those games.

11/23 is the CAA's rivalry weekend now and for the foreseeable future. JMU @ Towson is probably the one of the least interesting of all the rivalries that weekend.

It makes total sense if you look at pre season expectations and attendance.

BDKJMU wrote: UD was 2-6 in the CAA last season (yes they will be improved), and Villanova should be the preseason #1 pick in the CAA. That game should be a sellout at 12,500. A little bigger stadium than TU, but not nearly as nice. With the tradition of that game you could make an arguement that it would be the better game to televise, but not as you put it "much better".

FYI- The UD-VU game is played at PPL Park in Chester, where the MLS Union play. The game has outgrown being played on VU's campus. They played there two years ago & it was 2-1 UD to VU fans. Nothing wrong with TV broadcasting a game from there.

I wouldn't be surprised if the CAA made a hard sell to NBC Sports to have one of UNH's games televised. To not get one this season would mean they had been in 0 of 11 NBC Sports televised CAA games over the last 2 seasons for a team that has been in the playoffs 9 straight seasons to go along with mid pack attendance in albeit a shitty stadium. That game had been scheduled for noon for several months now. Now its been changed to 12:30.

Ideally they would have had an away game televised. Their away CAA schedule:
10/5 @ TU
10/26 @ SBU
11/2 @ W&M
11/16 @ Albany

Their 10/5 @ TU game would obviously have been the top choice of those 4, but that would have given TU 3 home NBC Sports games (remember even JMU got only 1). NBC probably saw that W&M was only 2-9/1-7 last season, and SBU and Albany had low attendance last season. Another thing is NBC Sports isn't televising any CAA games those weekends. They televise I-A games, along with the CAA and Ivy, which I'm sure are filler games for weekends they have available. I'm sure they only had a limited # of weekends to televise CAA games.

bluehenbillk wrote:

BDKJMU wrote: UD was 2-6 in the CAA last season (yes they will be improved), and Villanova should be the preseason #1 pick in the CAA. That game should be a sellout at 12,500. A little bigger stadium than TU, but not nearly as nice. With the tradition of that game you could make an arguement that it would be the better game to televise, but not as you put it "much better".

FYI- The UD-VU game is played at PPL Park in Chester, where the MLS Union play. The game has outgrown being played on VU's campus. They played there two years ago & it was 2-1 UD to VU fans. Nothing wrong with TV broadcasting a game from there.

I just looked up the attendance for that game- 14,107. Given that the game is at PPL as opposed to Nova's stadium, then yeah, that would be a better game to televise.

On the JMU board a couple of months ago when we were playing guess which games will be televised on NBC Sports, I had predicted either UD/VU or JMU/TU for that last weekend.

For what it's worth, before Towson dropped scholarships in 1994, Towson and JMU were each the longest rivalries in each schools program history. And unfortunately MY '92 junior year team was the last time we won. I hated the Dukes.

andy7171 wrote:For what it's worth, before Towson dropped scholarships in 1994, Towson and JMU were each the longest rivalries in each schools program history. And unfortunately MY '92 junior year team was the last time we won. I hated the Dukes.

Yep, it has been a long standing rivalry with the exception of the 93'-03' gap. 6 seasons 04'-09' was the season ending game for both teams, as it will be again this season. JMU leads the series 18-5-1, and has won the last 8 straight:
76': JMU 28, TU 26 (Harrisonburg)
77': TU 13, JMU 7 (Towson)
78' JMU 21, TU 14 (Harrisonburg)
79': TU 18, JMU 8 (Towson)
80': DNP
81':JMU 20, TU 7 (Harrisonburg)
82: JMU 42, TU 24 (Towson
83': TU 10, JMU 3 (Harrisonburg)
84': JMU 24, TU 14 (Towson)
85': JMU 13, TO 0 (Harrisonburg)
86': Tie 7-7 (Towson)
87': JMU 21, TU 19 (Harrisonburg)
88': TU 34, JMU 6 (Towson)
89': JMU 41, TU 6 (Harrisonburg)
90': JMU 21, TU 14 (Towson)
91': JMU 55, TU 31 (Harrisonburg)
92': TU 28, JMU 21 (Towson)
93'-03': DNP
04’: JMU 31, TU 17 (Towson)
05’: JMU 55, TU 14 (Harrisonburg)
06’: JMU 38, TU 3 (Towson)
07’: JMU 23, TU 13 (Harrisonburg)
08’: JMU 58, TU 27 (Towson)
09’: JMU 43, TU 12 (Harrisonburg)
10’: JMU 17, TU 13 (Towson)
11': DNP
12': JMU 13, TU 10 (Harrisonburg)

FWIW, JMU @ TU this season is one of the games I predict JMU to lose, and I have never predicted TU to beat JMU...

Another thing, JMU getting 3 games isn't unprecedented. Last yr there was 6 CAA games (1 had Del State @ UD same as this season), and both UD and Towson had 3 appearances each.

# of appearances on NBC Sports televised CAA games 2012 and 2013 seasons:
TU: 5
JMU: 5
UD: 4
ODU 2 (only 2012)
UNH: 1
VU: 1
UR: 1
W&M: 1
Maine: 0
URI: 0
SBU: 0 (only 2013)
Albany: 0 (only 2013)
GST: 0 (only 2012)

I see you guys are talking about attendance from previous years but Albany at stony brook will sell out just like the playoff game did in 2011. Delaware vs nova at PPL will be large in attendance. UD/DSU like i said on AGS is an absolute joke. if they could only swap DSU/UD for UD/NOVA and NOVA/Towson for ALB/SB towson still has that home game vs jmu

bluehenbillk wrote:Here's another trend: NBC has yet to televise a game without an all-sports CAA member in it.

Last yr. Not this yr. Villanova, UNH, and UR all get an appearance, with UNH hosting.