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I think SE Louisiana has potential
Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2013 5:40 pm
by JohnStOnge
I watched them play competively with TCU. Just looked up the numbers and saw that they outgained South Dakota State 506 to 345 in total yards. They had 6 turnovers to Douth Dakota State's 1 so they lost 34-26. But putting up 506 yards is pretty darned impressive.
I think that if they can cut down on the mistakes they might be tough to handle.
Re: I think SE Louisiana has potential
Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2013 11:02 pm
by Screamin_Eagle174
I have a lot of potential.
Wait what?
Re: I think SE Louisiana has potential
Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2013 1:55 am
by slulionsfan
JohnStOnge wrote:I watched them play competively with TCU. Just looked up the numbers and saw that they outgained South Dakota State 506 to 345 in total yards. They had 6 turnovers to Douth Dakota State's 1 so they lost 34-26. But putting up 506 yards is pretty darned impressive.
I think that if they can cut down on the mistakes they might be tough to handle.
You forgot to add we had 12 penalties to their four, to go along with the six turnovers. Sad thing is the only chance they had to beat us is if we gave it to them, and we did. We controlled both lines of scrimmage pretty much all night, and dominated every stat. We were up 10-0 in the first quarter, with a chance to go up more in the second, but fumbled at their 10 going in ... turned it over two other times while driving deep in their territory and also threw a pick 6. Game should have been over by the end of third quarter to be honest. Of their 345 total yards, over 130 came on two plays.
But give them credit. They're a good football team who made enough plays to hang around, while we didn't make enough to put them away when we had the chance. Tough loss to swallow, but we'll move on and look forward to the rest of the season!
Re: I think SE Louisiana has potential
Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2013 4:55 am
by htownbearkat
could of been the one bright spot in an otherwise pretty awful day for the the SLC. Instead it was par for the course.
Lamar, NWST and Nich didnt even show up for their FBS games.
SEL gives the game to the Jackrabbits with 6 turnovers
McNeese gets taken to the wire by a Dii school
Cent Ark goes down to Tenn-Martin
Bearkats didnt wake up until the middle of the 2nd quarter
Congrats to SFA for beating up on Bill Murry U
Re: I think SE Louisiana has potential
Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2013 6:28 am
by i_got_a_fever
SLU's Front 7 was very confusing, and extremely effective against SDSU's O-Line, I would say our D-Line held there own in the 2nd half, they were geting lots of pressure on Bennett, most of his passes he was escaping pressure, and passing way outside the pocket. I am happy with the win, to know that we can only gain so many yards, and still win the game by playing good, smart football. But I agree wholeheartedly, SLU, if they can tidy up the mistakes, is an extremely good, underrated football team.
Re: I think SE Louisiana has potential
Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2013 3:51 pm
by slulionsfan
Highlights of the game. Tough to stomach if you're a Lions fan but clean things up and we'll be tough to beat from here on out.
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Re: I think SE Louisiana has potential
Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2013 5:21 pm
by JohnStOnge
htownbearkat wrote:could of been the one bright spot in an otherwise pretty awful day for the the SLC. Instead it was par for the course.
Lamar, NWST and Nich didnt even show up for their FBS games.
SEL gives the game to the Jackrabbits with 6 turnovers
McNeese gets taken to the wire by a Dii schoolCent Ark goes down to Tenn-Martin
Bearkats didnt wake up until the middle of the 2nd quarter
Congrats to SFA for beating up on Bill Murry U
See the 11 vs. 13 thread. McNeese was lucky to win. And we'll have to wait until the season plays out to see for sure if West Alabama is a top D-II team. But I think it likely that it is. And there is no disgrace to a FCS in struggling with a top D-II team. There is not nearly as much difference between the top of D-II and the top of FCS as there is between the top of FCS and the top of FBS.
Some examples:
In 2010 Eastern Washington beat Central Washington 35-32. Eastern Washington went on to win the FCS national title. Central Washington finished 8-3 and didn't get selected for the D-II tournament.
In 2008 Montana beat Central Washington 38-35. Montana went on to the FCS national title game before losing to Richmond. Central Washington went otherwise unbeaten during the regular season before losing to West Texas A&M by 49-42 in its first D-II playoff game.
In 2003 Florida Atlantic made it to the I-AA semifinals. But during the regular season the Owls were blasted by Valdosta State by 45-17. Valdosta State lost its first playoff game by 35-29 to Carson Newman.
Another tidbit: There have been two games between teams that went on to win the D-II and I-AA national championships. It was a split. The D-II champ won one by 3 and the I-AA champ won one by 3.
I once looked at how D-II teams that went on to make the playoffs did against I-AA/FCS for the 10 year period 1998-2007. They were 43-29 in such games.
West Alabama has, in my opinion, the best set of skill position players McNeese will see this year. I know that may make you wonder but I think it's true. They have a running back that is comparable to Sanders (before you scoff note that he's on the Senior Bowl watch list and Sanders is not). They have an all purpose player that is comparable to Sincere. They have a highly mobile quarterback who is way better than Bell. WAY better. I gurantee you you will not find a single McNeese State fan who watched that game who won't agree with that statement. And unless Sam Houston State's wideouts are a lot better than they were last year you won't find a single McNeese State fan who won't say that their wideouts are way better than what Sam Houston State has. Your corners could not handle them 1 on 1. I guarantee it. they have too much of a size/speed combination.
Re: I think SE Louisiana has potential
Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2013 5:46 pm
by McNeese75
I assume Sanders = Flanders
Re: I think SE Louisiana has potential
Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2013 7:22 pm
by htownbearkat
JohnStOnge wrote:htownbearkat wrote:could of been the one bright spot in an otherwise pretty awful day for the the SLC. Instead it was par for the course.
Lamar, NWST and Nich didnt even show up for their FBS games.
SEL gives the game to the Jackrabbits with 6 turnovers
McNeese gets taken to the wire by a Dii schoolCent Ark goes down to Tenn-Martin
Bearkats didnt wake up until the middle of the 2nd quarter
Congrats to SFA for beating up on Bill Murry U
See the 11 vs. 13 thread. McNeese was lucky to win. And we'll have to wait until the season plays out to see for sure if West Alabama is a top D-II team. But I think it likely that it is. And there is no disgrace to a FCS in struggling with a top D-II team. There is not nearly as much difference between the top of D-II and the top of FCS as there is between the top of FCS and the top of FBS.
Some examples:
In 2010 Eastern Washington beat Central Washington 35-32. Eastern Washington went on to win the FCS national title. Central Washington finished 8-3 and didn't get selected for the D-II tournament.
In 2008 Montana beat Central Washington 38-35. Montana went on to the FCS national title game before losing to Richmond. Central Washington went otherwise unbeaten during the regular season before losing to West Texas A&M by 49-42 in its first D-II playoff game.
In 2003 Florida Atlantic made it to the I-AA semifinals. But during the regular season the Owls were blasted by Valdosta State by 45-17. Valdosta State lost its first playoff game by 35-29 to Carson Newman.
Another tidbit: There have been two games between teams that went on to win the D-II and I-AA national championships. It was a split. The D-II champ won one by 3 and the I-AA champ won one by 3.
I once looked at how D-II teams that went on to make the playoffs did against I-AA/FCS for the 10 year period 1998-2007. They were 43-29 in such games.
West Alabama has, in my opinion, the best set of skill position players McNeese will see this year. I know that may make you wonder but I think it's true. They have a running back that is comparable to Sanders (before you scoff note that he's on the Senior Bowl watch list and Sanders is not). They have an all purpose player that is comparable to Sincere. They have a highly mobile quarterback who is way better than Bell. WAY better. I gurantee you you will not find a single McNeese State fan who watched that game who won't agree with that statement. And unless Sam Houston State's wideouts are a lot better than they were last year you won't find a single McNeese State fan who won't say that their wideouts are way better than what Sam Houston State has. Your corners could not handle them 1 on 1. I guarantee it. they have too much of a size/speed combination.
and yet some how the bearkats have had no trouble with the cowboys even though we have less talent than a DII school.
The cowboys gave up the same points and more yards vs west bama than 0-2 DII Clark Atlanta.
but im sure that directional bama pulled there starters early.
Re: I think SE Louisiana has potential
Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2013 8:06 pm
by htownbearkat
htownbearkat wrote:JohnStOnge wrote:
See the 11 vs. 13 thread. McNeese was lucky to win. And we'll have to wait until the season plays out to see for sure if West Alabama is a top D-II team. But I think it likely that it is. And there is no disgrace to a FCS in struggling with a top D-II team. There is not nearly as much difference between the top of D-II and the top of FCS as there is between the top of FCS and the top of FBS.
Some examples:
In 2010 Eastern Washington beat Central Washington 35-32. Eastern Washington went on to win the FCS national title. Central Washington finished 8-3 and didn't get selected for the D-II tournament.
In 2008 Montana beat Central Washington 38-35. Montana went on to the FCS national title game before losing to Richmond. Central Washington went otherwise unbeaten during the regular season before losing to West Texas A&M by 49-42 in its first D-II playoff game.
In 2003 Florida Atlantic made it to the I-AA semifinals. But during the regular season the Owls were blasted by Valdosta State by 45-17. Valdosta State lost its first playoff game by 35-29 to Carson Newman.
Another tidbit: There have been two games between teams that went on to win the D-II and I-AA national championships. It was a split. The D-II champ won one by 3 and the I-AA champ won one by 3.
I once looked at how D-II teams that went on to make the playoffs did against I-AA/FCS for the 10 year period 1998-2007. They were 43-29 in such games.
West Alabama has, in my opinion, the best set of skill position players McNeese will see this year. I know that may make you wonder but I think it's true. They have a running back that is comparable to Sanders (before you scoff note that he's on the Senior Bowl watch list and Sanders is not). They have an all purpose player that is comparable to Sincere. They have a highly mobile quarterback who is way better than Bell. WAY better. I gurantee you you will not find a single McNeese State fan who watched that game who won't agree with that statement. And unless Sam Houston State's wideouts are a lot better than they were last year you won't find a single McNeese State fan who won't say that their wideouts are way better than what Sam Houston State has. Your corners could not handle them 1 on 1. I guarantee it. they have too much of a size/speed combination.
sounds like West Bama is ready to take on NDSU.
and yet some how the bearkats have had no trouble with the cowboys even though we have less talent than a DII school.
The cowboys gave up the same points and more yards vs west bama than 0-2 DII Clark Atlanta.
but im sure that directional bama pulled there starters early.
Re: I think SE Louisiana has potential
Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 6:52 am
by kakat10
htownbearkat wrote:htownbearkat wrote:
sounds like West Bama is ready to take on NDSU.
and yet some how the bearkats have had no trouble with the cowboys even though we have less talent than a DII school.
The cowboys gave up the same points and more yards vs west bama than 0-2 DII Clark Atlanta.
but im sure that directional bama pulled there starters early.
It must be the only game he will see on McNeese's schedule... Also if you do not know the name of the SHSU running back, how much do you really know about his skill set? Flanders will be in the NFL and the senior bowl is just a distraction.
Re: I think SE Louisiana has potential
Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 7:05 am
by clenz
You know if jso wasn't a McNeese fan he would not be defending them, or any other school, for struggling with a school that should have been beat by 3 scores or more
Sent from a, likely, NSA tracked device
Re: I think SE Louisiana has potential
Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 7:47 am
by Cap'n Cat
Cap'n Cat made the trip out to Brookings SD to see the SELA/SDSU game. Looked like a couple of high school teams.
Closed circuit to SDSU Facilities and Grounds: Was there in '07, any chance of FINALLY getting rid of all the mud in the parking lots? Jesus.
Re: I think SE Louisiana has potential
Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 11:34 am
by Grizzlies1982
McNeese75 wrote:I assume Sanders = Flanders
Sam Houston's Flanders is an exceptional running back,
but make no mistake he is no Barry Sanders.
Re: I think SE Louisiana has potential
Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 5:12 pm
by JohnStOnge
The Sam Houston State defenses of 2011 and 2012 were much better than West Alabama's defense. But West Alabama's offense looked better against McNeese than any Sam Houston State offense ever has to my recollection and I've watched a lot of Sam Houston State/McNeese State games. Yes, it "only" scored 42 points. But you have to remember that McNeese's offense was able to keep it off the field some.
What I said about the West Alabama running back is that he is "comparable" to Flanders. And he is.
What I'm talking about is the entire set of skill players. If you had to squeeze it down you'd probably say Flanders is a little better than their running back and Sincere is a little better...maybe...than #1 for West Alabama. But at quarterback it's no contest. West Alabama is better at that position. Same is true at wideout unless Sam Houston State is a whole lot better at that position than it was last year.
Re: I think SE Louisiana has potential
Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 5:16 pm
by kalm
Cap'n Cat wrote:Cap'n Cat made the trip out to Brookings SD to see the SELA/SDSU game. Looked like a couple of high school teams.
Closed circuit to SDSU Facilities and Grounds: Was there in '07, any chance of FINALLY getting rid of all the mud in the parking lots? Jesus.
Shut your whore mouth and go enjoy your gophers...hater...
Re: I think SE Louisiana has potential
Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 5:27 pm
by JohnStOnge
sounds like West Bama is ready to take on NDSU.
and yet some how the bearkats have had no trouble with the cowboys even though we have less talent than a DII school.
The cowboys gave up the same points and more yards vs west bama than 0-2 DII Clark Atlanta.
but im sure that directional bama pulled there starters early.
Uh...the series record between McNeese and Sam Houston State is McNeese by 24-9-1. The Bearkats have had a couple of good years with one nucleus of players. They've got a long way to go.
Otherwise, yes, West Alabama did call of the dogs against Clark Atlanta. I watched a replay of the game on the Sunday before McNeese played West Alabama. The game was over before halftime. It was clear that the opponent couldn't compete with them and they acted accordingly.
Anyway, the main point is that good D-IIs give good I-AA/FCS teams all they want and sometimes more all the time. It's not valid to assume that it should be an easy game just because it's a D-II. Depends on howw good the D-II is.
Re: I think SE Louisiana has potential
Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2013 3:18 am
by dal4018
Doesn't SLU have a king sized DB named Mike Smith 6-3 205 they snatched from out west (Cali)???
Re: I think SE Louisiana has potential
Posted: Sat Sep 28, 2013 9:24 pm
by htownbearkat
JohnStOnge wrote:htownbearkat wrote:could of been the one bright spot in an otherwise pretty awful day for the the SLC. Instead it was par for the course.
Lamar, NWST and Nich didnt even show up for their FBS games.
SEL gives the game to the Jackrabbits with 6 turnovers
McNeese gets taken to the wire by a Dii schoolCent Ark goes down to Tenn-Martin
Bearkats didnt wake up until the middle of the 2nd quarter
Congrats to SFA for beating up on Bill Murry U
See the 11 vs. 13 thread. McNeese was lucky to win. And we'll have to wait until the season plays out to see for sure if West Alabama is a top D-II team. But I think it likely that it is. And there is no disgrace to a FCS in struggling with a top D-II team. There is not nearly as much difference between the top of D-II and the top of FCS as there is between the top of FCS and the top of FBS.
Some examples:
In 2010 Eastern Washington beat Central Washington 35-32. Eastern Washington went on to win the FCS national title. Central Washington finished 8-3 and didn't get selected for the D-II tournament.
In 2008 Montana beat Central Washington 38-35. Montana went on to the FCS national title game before losing to Richmond. Central Washington went otherwise unbeaten during the regular season before losing to West Texas A&M by 49-42 in its first D-II playoff game.
In 2003 Florida Atlantic made it to the I-AA semifinals. But during the regular season the Owls were blasted by Valdosta State by 45-17. Valdosta State lost its first playoff game by 35-29 to Carson Newman.
Another tidbit: There have been two games between teams that went on to win the D-II and I-AA national championships. It was a split. The D-II champ won one by 3 and the I-AA champ won one by 3.
I once looked at how D-II teams that went on to make the playoffs did against I-AA/FCS for the 10 year period 1998-2007. They were 43-29 in such games.
West Alabama has, in my opinion, the best set of skill position players McNeese will see this year. I know that may make you wonder but I think it's true. They have a running back that is comparable to Sanders (before you scoff note that he's on the Senior Bowl watch list and Sanders is not). They have an all purpose player that is comparable to Sincere. They have a highly mobile quarterback who is way better than Bell. WAY better. I gurantee you you will not find a single McNeese State fan who watched that game who won't agree with that statement. And unless Sam Houston State's wideouts are a lot better than they were last year you won't find a single McNeese State fan who won't say that their wideouts are way better than what Sam Houston State has. Your corners could not handle them 1 on 1. I guarantee it. they have too much of a size/speed combination.
still sticking by this JOHN?
Re: I think SE Louisiana has potential
Posted: Sat Sep 28, 2013 9:25 pm
by clenz
htownbearkat wrote:JohnStOnge wrote:
See the 11 vs. 13 thread. McNeese was lucky to win. And we'll have to wait until the season plays out to see for sure if West Alabama is a top D-II team. But I think it likely that it is. And there is no disgrace to a FCS in struggling with a top D-II team. There is not nearly as much difference between the top of D-II and the top of FCS as there is between the top of FCS and the top of FBS.
Some examples:
In 2010 Eastern Washington beat Central Washington 35-32. Eastern Washington went on to win the FCS national title. Central Washington finished 8-3 and didn't get selected for the D-II tournament.
In 2008 Montana beat Central Washington 38-35. Montana went on to the FCS national title game before losing to Richmond. Central Washington went otherwise unbeaten during the regular season before losing to West Texas A&M by 49-42 in its first D-II playoff game.
In 2003 Florida Atlantic made it to the I-AA semifinals. But during the regular season the Owls were blasted by Valdosta State by 45-17. Valdosta State lost its first playoff game by 35-29 to Carson Newman.
Another tidbit: There have been two games between teams that went on to win the D-II and I-AA national championships. It was a split. The D-II champ won one by 3 and the I-AA champ won one by 3.
I once looked at how D-II teams that went on to make the playoffs did against I-AA/FCS for the 10 year period 1998-2007. They were 43-29 in such games.
West Alabama has, in my opinion, the best set of skill position players McNeese will see this year. I know that may make you wonder but I think it's true. They have a running back that is comparable to Sanders (before you scoff note that he's on the Senior Bowl watch list and Sanders is not). They have an all purpose player that is comparable to Sincere. They have a highly mobile quarterback who is way better than Bell. WAY better. I gurantee you you will not find a single McNeese State fan who watched that game who won't agree with that statement. And unless Sam Houston State's wideouts are a lot better than they were last year you won't find a single McNeese State fan who won't say that their wideouts are way better than what Sam Houston State has. Your corners could not handle them 1 on 1. I guarantee it. they have too much of a size/speed combination.
still sticking by this JOHN?