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Team (First-place votes) 2013 Record Points Previous Rank
1. North Dakota State Bison (159) 8-0 3975 1
2. Eastern Illinois Panthers 7-1 3709 2
3. Eastern Washington Eagles 6-2 3554 3
4. McNeese State Cowboys 7-1 3346 4
5. Montana State Bobcats 6-2 3191 5
6. Coastal Carolina Chanticleers 8-0 3102 6
7. Towson Tigers 8-1 2964 8
8. Sam Houston State Bearkats 6-2 2952 7
9. Fordham Rams 8-0 2855 8
10. Maine Black Bears 7-1 2537 11
11. Youngstown State Penguins 7-1 2234 13
12. Montana Grizzlies 6-2 2045 10
13. Bethune-Cookman Wildcats 7-1 2001 14
14. Northern Arizona Lumberjacks 6-2 1795 16
15. Samford Bulldogs 6-2 1681 22
16. New Hampshire Wildcats 4-3 1292 20
17. Wofford Terriers 5-3 1226 12
18. Central Arkansas Bears 5-3 1035 23
19. South Dakota State Jackrabbits 5-4 800 25
20. Villanova Wildcats 4-4 710 18
21. Delaware Blue Hens 6-2 701 NR
22. Lehigh Mountain Hawks 6-2 648 16
23. Tennessee State Tigers 7-2 617 21
24. Charleston Southern Buccaneers 8-1 589 NR
25. Southeastern Louisiana Lions 6-2 423 NR
Others receiving votes: Northern Iowa 360, James Madison 325, William & Mary 259, Jacksonville State 177, Chattanooga 175, Southern Illinois 81, Princeton 68, Georgia Southern 57, Harvard 37, Southern Utah 33, South Carolina State 24, Jackson State 18, UT Martin 18, Portland State 17, Illinois State 11, Sacramento State 7, Stony Brook 6, Cal Poly 6, South Dakota 4, Alabama State 4, Alcorn State 4, Eastern Kentucky 2

Pathetic poll

dbackjon wrote:Pathetic poll

93henfan wrote:Others receiving votes: Northern Iowa 360, James Madison 325, William & Mary 259, Jacksonville State 177, Chattanooga 175, Southern Illinois 81, Princeton 68, Georgia Southern 57, Harvard 37, Southern Utah 33, South Carolina State 24, Jackson State 18, UT Martin 18, Portland State 17, Illinois State 11, Sacramento State 7, Stony Brook 6, Cal Poly 6, South Dakota 4, Alabama State 4, Alcorn State 4, Eastern Kentucky 2

How are some of these teams receiving votes??!?

89Hen wrote:

93henfan wrote:Others receiving votes: Northern Iowa 360, James Madison 325, William & Mary 259, Jacksonville State 177, Chattanooga 175, Southern Illinois 81, Princeton 68, Georgia Southern 57, Harvard 37, Southern Utah 33, South Carolina State 24, Jackson State 18, UT Martin 18, Portland State 17, Illinois State 11, Sacramento State 7, Stony Brook 6, Cal Poly 6, South Dakota 4, Alabama State 4, Alcorn State 4, Eastern Kentucky 2

How are some of these teams receiving votes??!?

South Carolina St gave Bethune Cookman all they could handle.

dal4018 wrote:

89Hen wrote: How are some of these teams receiving votes??!?

South Carolina St gave Bethune Cookman all they could handle.

SCSt is 4-3 vs DI having beaten nobody. They are not a top 25 team.

Receiving votes - Portland State. Huh?


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Wonder if they've blocked me.

Laughable. Chuck South ranked, Coastal in the top 6 and had to go to double OT for Liberty to beat themselves? Chuck South couldn't beat any team that received one vote. I guess you can pad your ranking by playing a very weak schedule. How can you take these polls seriously?

2-6 Stony Brook getting votes.. LOL. Portland State also getting votes. I just don't understand how SDSU, at 5-4, is in the top 25.. just astounding. At least Villanova, with four losses, has played a tough schedule.

kendradad wrote:Laughable. Chuck South ranked, Coastal in the top 6 and had to go to double OT for Liberty to beat themselves? Chuck South couldn't beat any team that received one vote. I guess you can pad your ranking by playing a very weak schedule. How can you take these polls seriously?

I'm liking this guy.

MrTitleist wrote:2-6 Stony Brook getting votes.. LOL. Portland State also getting votes.

TSN is full of fools and proud that they don't have any quidelines for voters.

I would definitely favor Southeastern Louisiana to beat 24, 23, 22, 19, 18, 13, 9, and 6 on a neutral field. And yes I know 19 beat Southeastern Louisiana but that was because of 6 Southeastern Louisiana turnovers. . Most of the time that's not going to happen.

Also I wouldn't think it a surprise if Southeastern Louisiana beat most of the other teams in the poll. Like if they beat McNeese State this week, for example. I HOPE that doesn't happen. But it would not be a surprise at all. To me the TSN poll not having Southeastern Louisiana in the poll prior to this week and having them barely in this week means whoever votes in that poll hasn't been paying attention.

I can understand not giving SELA love. Haven't defeated a good team, except Samford, lost big to a poor TCU team, lost big to an average SDSU team. The next three weeks will go a long ways in determining if they're legit or just beat up on weak teams.

MrTitleist wrote:I can understand not giving SELA love. Haven't defeated a good team, except Samford, lost big to a poor TCU team, lost big to an average SDSU team. The next three weeks will go a long ways in determining if they're legit or just beat up on weak teams.

TCU is not a "poor" team, even by FBS standards, regardless of their record ... we played toe-to-toe with them for a half and part of the third quarter. I'd venture to say 90% of FCS schools would have had a similar, or worse, outcome.

And not sure what game you watched (or didn't), but we didn't "lose big" to SDSU. We dominated them for three quarters, not to mention statistically, but turned it over six times and had 12 penalties, to their zero turnovers and four penalties. That's the point John was trying to make. They never stopped us, and if we don't beat ourselves, that game is over by the third quarter in our favor. Then we rebound the next week and beat Samford on the road, without our starting QB.

But you're right, the next three weeks will tell the tale.

Who the heck is giving us votes? EWU stole our Pac-12 Killaz title, and even if we HAD defended it, the way we've played the rest of this season, it probably would have looked like the last TWO seasons, in which case we'd be WAY beyond having that win help us.

Unless we win out (highly unlikely, BTW), no votes for Sac. Heck, given our schedule, no votes for us even if we DO win out, because even at 7-1 BSC and second place, we're not getting in. We'd be like fourth or fifth choice with EWU and the Montanas in front (as far as national rankings go). Until we set precedent by getting the auto-bid (definitely NOT happening THIS year), we're not likely to get an at-large, so there's no call to even give us poll votes....

89Hen wrote:

dal4018 wrote:South Carolina St gave Bethune Cookman all they could handle.

SCSt is 4-3 vs DI having beaten nobody. They are not a top 25 team.

Granted but they gave a top 25 team all it could handle.

dal4018 wrote:

89Hen wrote: SCSt is 4-3 vs DI having beaten nobody. They are not a top 25 team.

Granted

Nuff said.

EWURanger wrote:Receiving votes - Portland State. Huh?


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Ranger, I think EWU's #93 should have received the game ball for that play in your signature line.
Far and away the most ridiculous D line play I've seen this year.

MrTitleist wrote:I can understand not giving SELA love. Haven't defeated a good team, except Samford, lost big to a poor TCU team, lost big to an average SDSU team. The next three weeks will go a long ways in determining if they're legit or just beat up on weak teams.

Southeastern Louisiana lost to South Dakota State by 8 points (34-26). That, to me, is a not a case in which they "lost big." They had 506 total yards to South Dakota State's 345. But they were -5 in the giveaway takeaway stat.

If two teams play and one is -5 in the giveaway/takeaway stat but loses by only 8 points you would be wise to bet on the loser of the first game if the two teams play again. Not an absolute by any means. But if two teams are equal and one turns the ball over five times more often than the other that usually means the one that did that is going to lose by a lot more than 8 points.

How the fuck is eastern WASHINGTON not number 2??? Wtf!

BlackFalkin wrote:How the fuck is eastern WASHINGTON not number 2??? Wtf!

ECB

89Hen wrote:

BlackFalkin wrote:How the fuck is eastern WASHINGTON not number 2??? Wtf!

ECB

EIUB

BlackFalkin wrote:How the **** is eastern WASHINGTON not number 2??? Wtf!

Because we have 2 losses. It's questionable if we should even be #3 right now.


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89Hen wrote:

dal4018 wrote:South Carolina St gave Bethune Cookman all they could handle.

SCSt is 4-3 vs DI having beaten nobody. They are not a top 25 team.

SCSU lost by a touchdown to #6 CCU. A game that was tied going into the 4th Quarter, they played CCU very well.

They lost to Clemson who was ranked #4 at the time in FBS. SCSU faired better than Wake Forest playing against Clemson, and quite frankly one of the better FCS outings against FBS ranked teams this year.

They lost to BCU, who is playing very good ball this year. They held SCSU to 3 points? BCU's defense is real this year with their first string out, NO ONE is scoring touchdowns on them. Except Florida State.