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Coastal was made fun of this week by some fans and media, saying the Chants, coming out of a 78 degree day at the airport in Myrtle Beach, SC, would crumble at mighty Montana and the single digit weather. Ha, yeah right. Cold weather isn't nearly as hard as brutal heat, you can warm up and layer up. Can't cool down. CCU did a great job, won a huge game.

But, bigger point, is the bias in the playoff committee. Coastal should've had a home game. Liberty should've been in. Maybe even a case for Charleston Southern, a 10 win team that got left out.

The bias for the teams in the Northeast and Rockies is a joke.

Go Coastal. Great win.

Meanwhile, 7-5 Furman is giving North Dakota quite a fight in the Dome. 10-7 at half. NDSU probably opens this one up though.
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This is an idiotic thread. :lol:
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Ibanez wrote:HOLY **** ****!!! Hahahahahahahajahaj

Oh my god. I'm so happy!!! I'm at a wedding mow but will catch up and post later
Congrats man, Coastal played great. They held a 21 point lead for most of the game until Montana rallied late. Montana is lucky they didn't get blown out by 30 or more.

And to the other guy who responded...no, this is not a ridiculous thread. The Big South got the shaft this year. Liberty should've been in. Coastal should've played at home. And CSU even may have had a gripe with 10 wins (one being over this GREAT Coastal team).

But the committee is bias towards, well, we all know the teams.
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The committee is biased toward teams and conferences with a track record of success, kind of the same way any bias in life works. The Big South, even after this game, has done nothing to warrant more than one bid. If CCU were to go to the semis or finals, then they would give themselves some ammo for future selection, but the Big South has done jack squat nothing to give it any extra consideration. You'd need CCU to bring home some hardware, or make a couple of deep runs the next few years to do that.
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Ibanez wrote:HOLY FUCKING SHIT!!! Hahahahahahahajahaj

Oh my god. I'm so happy!!! I'm at a wedding mow but will catch up and post later
Two years in a row that you have not watched YOUR team in the second round of the playoffs.
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93henfan wrote:The committee is biased toward teams and conferences with a track record of success, kind of the same way any bias in life works. The Big South, even after this game, has done nothing to warrant more than one bid. If CCU were to go to the semis or finals, then they would give themselves some ammo for future selection, but the Big South has done jack squat nothing to give it any extra consideration. You'd need CCU to bring home some hardware, or make a couple of deep runs the next few years to do that.
THIS year is all that should matter. The Big South owned the SoCon this year. 7-2 or 8-2 or something like that. SoCon got 2, BSC got 1. That's bias.

Second, the bias towards newcomer teams like Coastal is sickening. Coastal deserved a home game. Instead, they get sent to Montana.

Playoff seedings shouldn't be based on anything except that current year's results.
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bucs90 wrote:
93henfan wrote:The committee is biased toward teams and conferences with a track record of success, kind of the same way any bias in life works. The Big South, even after this game, has done nothing to warrant more than one bid. If CCU were to go to the semis or finals, then they would give themselves some ammo for future selection, but the Big South has done jack squat nothing to give it any extra consideration. You'd need CCU to bring home some hardware, or make a couple of deep runs the next few years to do that.
THIS year is all that should matter. The Big South owned the SoCon this year. 7-2 or 8-2 or something like that. SoCon got 2, BSC got 1. That's bias.

Second, the bias towards newcomer teams like Coastal is sickening. Coastal deserved a home game. Instead, they get sent to Montana.

Playoff seedings shouldn't be based on anything except that current year's results.
You do know that the two SoCon teams that got in have zero losses to BSC teams, right.

I'm not sure how long you've been around, but those of us who've followed FCS football closely for the last 25-30 years know that in the grand scheme of things, the western teams have usually been in the shirt end of the stick in the playoffs.

If the BSC has a good year next year they might get two in, but one good season does not a power conference make.

Edit: Furman lost to two BSC teams and if not for the AQ, they would not be in the playoffs. Chatty would likely have made it, with no BSC losses.
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Of course the mighty MEAC deserved two teams in. :roll:

CCU had all kinds of trouble with both Liberty & CSU. Much less facing the traditional powerhouse.
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Sly Fox wrote:Of course the mighty MEAC deserved two teams in. :roll:

CCU had all kinds of trouble with both Liberty & CSU. Much less facing the traditional powerhouse.
SoCon was a soft conference this year. But let's face it, Montana was weak sauce this year. They never deserved a seed, but got one due to their attendance. Cripes, Coastal would have destroyed Montana if Montana came East.

Now the Big Fluffy is down to one team...no surprise to anyone that watches football.
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Cluck U wrote:
Sly Fox wrote:Of course the mighty MEAC deserved two teams in. :roll:

CCU had all kinds of trouble with both Liberty & CSU. Much less facing the traditional powerhouse.
SoCon was a soft conference this year. But let's face it, Montana was weak sauce this year. They never deserved a seed, but got one due to their attendance. Cripes, Coastal would have destroyed Montana if Montana came East.

Now the Big Fluffy is down to one team...no surprise to anyone that watches football.
And so it begins. :stir:
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93henfan wrote:
Cluck U wrote:
SoCon was a soft conference this year. But let's face it, Montana was weak sauce this year. They never deserved a seed, but got one due to their attendance. Cripes, Coastal would have destroyed Montana if Montana came East.

Now the Big Fluffy is down to one team...no surprise to anyone that watches football.
And so it begins. :stir:
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93henfan wrote:
Cluck U wrote:
SoCon was a soft conference this year. But let's face it, Montana was weak sauce this year. They never deserved a seed, but got one due to their attendance. Cripes, Coastal would have destroyed Montana if Montana came East.

Now the Big Fluffy is down to one team...no surprise to anyone that watches football.
And so it begins. :stir:
:mrgreen:

But seriously, two blowout losses for the Big Fluffy...and then the defeat in Grizzyworld (home field worth about 14 points). Those games can't be called flukes...the Big Sky simply doesn't play defense.
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bucs90 wrote:Coastal was made fun of this week by some fans and media, saying the Chants, coming out of a 78 degree day at the airport in Myrtle Beach, SC, would crumble at mighty Montana and the single digit weather. Ha, yeah right. Cold weather isn't nearly as hard as brutal heat, you can warm up and layer up. Can't cool down. CCU did a great job, won a huge game.

But, bigger point, is the bias in the playoff committee. Coastal should've had a home game. Liberty should've been in. Maybe even a case for Charleston Southern, a 10 win team that got left out.

The bias for the teams in the Northeast and Rockies is a joke.

Go Coastal. Great win.

Meanwhile, 7-5 Furman is giving North Dakota quite a fight in the Dome. 10-7 at half. NDSU probably opens this one up though.
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93henfan wrote:
Cluck U wrote:
SoCon was a soft conference this year. But let's face it, Montana was weak sauce this year. They never deserved a seed, but got one due to their attendance. Cripes, Coastal would have destroyed Montana if Montana came East.

Now the Big Fluffy is down to one team...no surprise to anyone that watches football.
And so it begins. :stir:
I couldn't care less what the rest of the Big Sky does in the playoffs. It's not like EWU's 2010 trophy is sitting in our case :coffee:
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CID1990 wrote:
bucs90 wrote:
THIS year is all that should matter. The Big South owned the SoCon this year. 7-2 or 8-2 or something like that. SoCon got 2, BSC got 1. That's bias.

Second, the bias towards newcomer teams like Coastal is sickening. Coastal deserved a home game. Instead, they get sent to Montana.

Playoff seedings shouldn't be based on anything except that current year's results.
You do know that the two SoCon teams that got in have zero losses to BSC teams, right.

I'm not sure how long you've been around, but those of us who've followed FCS football closely for the last 25-30 years know that in the grand scheme of things, the western teams have usually been in the shirt end of the stick in the playoffs.

If the BSC has a good year next year they might get two in, but one good season does not a power conference make.

Edit: Furman lost to two BSC teams and if not for the AQ, they would not be in the playoffs. Chatty would likely have made it, with no BSC losses.

Yeah, glad you did a late edit to your post, as you obviously saw SoCon auto-bid champ Furman lost to the Big South's 4th place team, Gardner-Webb. The Big South also had a win over another playoff team, SC State from the MEAC.

I thought the integrity of the playoffs were to put in the best teams THAT year. Not give "legacy points" for stuff teams did in past years. Guess not.
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Sly Fox wrote:Of course the mighty MEAC deserved two teams in. :roll:

CCU had all kinds of trouble with both Liberty & CSU. Much less facing the traditional powerhouse.
Coastal is an elite FCS team. CSU was fortunate to win that game.

Your team, Liberty, got robbed. They deserved a playoff slot.
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Cluck U wrote:
93henfan wrote:
And so it begins. :stir:
:mrgreen:

But seriously, two blowout losses for the Big Fluffy...and then the defeat in Grizzyworld (home field worth about 14 points). Those games can't be called flukes...the Big Sky simply doesn't play defense.
Yeah, I guess it's just a fluke we held the FCS rushing leader to a little over 3 yards a carry and under 100 yards on the day. :rofl:
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HI54UNI wrote:
bucs90 wrote:Coastal was made fun of this week by some fans and media, saying the Chants, coming out of a 78 degree day at the airport in Myrtle Beach, SC, would crumble at mighty Montana and the single digit weather. Ha, yeah right. Cold weather isn't nearly as hard as brutal heat, you can warm up and layer up. Can't cool down. CCU did a great job, won a huge game.

But, bigger point, is the bias in the playoff committee. Coastal should've had a home game. Liberty should've been in. Maybe even a case for Charleston Southern, a 10 win team that got left out.

The bias for the teams in the Northeast and Rockies is a joke.

Go Coastal. Great win.

Meanwhile, 7-5 Furman is giving North Dakota quite a fight in the Dome. 10-7 at half. NDSU probably opens this one up though.
You need to learn to win with some class......

Save this crap for after your team wins the championship.

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bucs90 wrote:
CID1990 wrote:
You do know that the two SoCon teams that got in have zero losses to BSC teams, right.

I'm not sure how long you've been around, but those of us who've followed FCS football closely for the last 25-30 years know that in the grand scheme of things, the western teams have usually been in the shirt end of the stick in the playoffs.

If the BSC has a good year next year they might get two in, but one good season does not a power conference make.

Edit: Furman lost to two BSC teams and if not for the AQ, they would not be in the playoffs. Chatty would likely have made it, with no BSC losses.

Yeah, glad you did a late edit to your post, as you obviously saw SoCon auto-bid champ Furman lost to the Big South's 4th place team, Gardner-Webb. The Big South also had a win over another playoff team, SC State from the MEAC.

I thought the integrity of the playoffs were to put in the best teams THAT year. Not give "legacy points" for stuff teams did in past years. Guess not.
You don't like it?

Well welcome to the club, young Padawan and enjoy your stay. The term "Woffed" was coined well before the BSC ever landed a team in the playoffs.

Furman was a freak pick this year. If not for the AQ, they would not have made it into the playoffs. Chattanooga had a much better argument for being in the playoffs than any of the BSC teams that made it this year, bias or not.

Like I said, tear it up again next year and the BSC might get two in. But whining about getting Woffed pre-dates the BSC.
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CID1990 wrote:
bucs90 wrote:

Yeah, glad you did a late edit to your post, as you obviously saw SoCon auto-bid champ Furman lost to the Big South's 4th place team, Gardner-Webb. The Big South also had a win over another playoff team, SC State from the MEAC.

I thought the integrity of the playoffs were to put in the best teams THAT year. Not give "legacy points" for stuff teams did in past years. Guess not.
You don't like it?

Well welcome to the club, young Padawan and enjoy your stay. The term "Woffed" was coined well before the BSC ever landed a team in the playoffs.

Furman was a freak pick this year. If not for the AQ, they would not have made it into the playoffs. Chattanooga had a much better argument for being in the playoffs than any of the BSC teams that made it this year, bias or not.

Like I said, tear it up again next year and the BSC might get two in. But whining about getting Woffed pre-dates the BSC.
Im sure it does. But doesn't make the bias fair. If no one complains, it'll never be addressed. Not that 1 person's opinion matters.

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As the only CCU alum/fan on this site, I'm excited. We've progressed further than we ever have. After a weak of hearing how weak we are, and how loud and cold Missoula is, CCU won. CCU pulled ahead after a tie and never lost position.
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Ibanez wrote:As the only CCU alum/fan on this site, I'm excited. We've progressed further than we ever have. After a weak of hearing how weak we are, and how loud and cold Missoula is, CCU won. CCU pulled ahead after a tie and never lost position.
Coastal showed why they are an elite team in FCS. Many may not admit it, because CCU is a new name to FCS, but CCU is absolutely among the elite of FCS right now. They ran the ball so well against Montana, making huge plays when it mattered. All week, everyone did indeed say CCU is weak, and how a team from the South would never be able to handle the 0 degree weather up there.

Great win CCU. Beat NDSU next week!
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bucs90 wrote:
Ibanez wrote:As the only CCU alum/fan on this site, I'm excited. We've progressed further than we ever have. After a weak of hearing how weak we are, and how loud and cold Missoula is, CCU won. CCU pulled ahead after a tie and never lost position.
Coastal showed why they are an elite team in FCS. Many may not admit it, because CCU is a new name to FCS, but CCU is absolutely among the elite of FCS right now. They ran the ball so well against Montana, making huge plays when it mattered. All week, everyone did indeed say CCU is weak, and how a team from the South would never be able to handle the 0 degree weather up there.

Great win CCU. Beat NDSU next week!

Is the big sky weak or is Coastal an elite team? Pick one nerd! :coffee:
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