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Towson @ Eastern Illinois

Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 7:01 am
by Mvemjsunpx
Based on picks I've seen, a lot of people seem to think Eastern Illinois a paper tiger. They're not. The OVC is the best it's been in a long time, and the Panthers sliced through the conference opposition like an infomercial knife slices through a tomato. EIU is similar to Fordham in terms of relative strengths & weaknesses, but noticeably better pretty much across the board. Their one weakness is special teams, where they're terrible outside of punt returns (they're the best in the nation there). Towson's a really good team, & perhaps the best of the road teams this week, but I don't think they're passing game & secondary are good enough to dodge the buzzsaw.

Here's my assessment of the matchups & my pick for the game:


      • Quarterbacks -- Eastern Illinois

        Running Backs - Towson

        Receivers/TEs - Eastern Illinois

        Offensive Line - Towson


        Defensive Line - Towson

        Linebackers --- Eastern Illinois

        Secondary ---- Eastern Illinois


        Kicking ------ Towson

        Punting ------ Towson

        Return Teams - Eastern Illinois

        Kickoffs ------ Towson





        • Towson 24-41 Eastern Illinois

Re: Towson @ Eastern Illinois

Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 7:04 am
by andy7171
Vast amjority of people here and over at AGS are picking EIU, not sure where the paper tiger is coming from. Towson's LBs are the strength of the defense. If EIU's are better, then I'm going to have to do some research on them right now.

Re: Towson @ Eastern Illinois

Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 7:08 am
by BrokenEagle07
Tough for me to judge Towson, because I havent seen them play this year. I have seen EIU play teams in our conference, and what they have done to the 2 teams that made the play offs and the rest of the teams in the OVC. Being on the receiving end of that offensive passing attack. . . its a little scary. Taking nothing away from Towson, but Im going to have to be a conference homer. . . EIU by 14

Re: Towson @ Eastern Illinois

Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 7:10 am
by Gil Dobie
Towson is as good as SIU and close to NIU. It's will not be a blowout, it will be a shootout.

Towson 52, EIEIU 49

Re: Towson @ Eastern Illinois

Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 7:17 am
by andy7171
Gil Dobie wrote:Towson is as good as SIU and close to NIU. It's will not be a blowout, it will be a shootout.

Towson 52, EIEIU 49
We're the oddball team that gets into shootouts running the ball. 60-80 yard TD bursts at a time. Its weird.

Re: Towson @ Eastern Illinois

Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 7:18 am
by Gil Dobie
andy7171 wrote:
Gil Dobie wrote:Towson is as good as SIU and close to NIU. It's will not be a blowout, it will be a shootout.

Towson 52, EIEIU 49
We're the oddball team that gets into shootouts running the ball. 60-80 yard TD bursts at a time. Its weird.
It might look like the Vikings/Ravens game as far as scoring goes, don't know about the snow though.

Re: Towson @ Eastern Illinois

Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 7:34 am
by andy7171
Gil Dobie wrote:
andy7171 wrote: We're the oddball team that gets into shootouts running the ball. 60-80 yard TD bursts at a time. Its weird.
It might look like the Vikings/Ravens game as far as scoring goes, don't know about the snow though.
Well, we've been practicing in it all week. Highs in the upper 20's. I don't even want to know what that works out to at 6am! :shock:

Re: Towson @ Eastern Illinois

Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 7:46 am
by aresef
Towson fan here. I still need to do my research on EIU's LBs, like Andy, but I foresee a shootout too. You have two very good quarterbacks matched up against each other, one a Payton finalist of course. And our Payton finalist is Terrance West, who needs no introduction in these parts. His backup is no slouch either. Take it from this former EIU assistant(now at Nova), who also has great things to say about our o-line.

My concerns heading in: Peter Athens had a great game against Fordham and connected well with our receivers. I'm not too worried about Athens... I'm concerned about our receivers. His top two targets (Spencer Wilkins and Leon Kinnard) are both out injured straight through Frisco.

Special teams were an embarrassment in the Fordham game. They caused one turnover on a botched return and gave the Rams a fresh set of downs on a holding penalty during a punt. The great thing about those mistakes—since, you know, we won—is that our players had the opportunity to learn from them. Those were mistakes that we could afford to make against a Fordham, though they changed the character of the game heading into the half. But we are playing very, very good football teams this week and, should we survive, next week and in Frisco. That stuff won't fly. Like how our defense got its act together after Delaware, that has to be the come to Jesus moment for the special teams.

Another thing: We haven't lost on the road yet this year. One of our home losses was a freak accident (Nova). The other was an absolute heartbreaker (Hens).

If that happens, if our receivers have another good day, Athens gets into a rhythm and our RBs work that voodoo that they do, it's going to be close, but I say Towson advances. 35-28 is what my heart tells me.

Re: Towson @ Eastern Illinois

Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 9:14 am
by andy7171
That punt fumble should NEVER have happened. No reason what so ever our PR should have charged up to attempt to catch it. It was a short punt and midefield. He'll get no where close to a punt like that in the IEU game.

The Nova loss wasn't a fluke. We played sloppy like that every game except UConn up to that point. Nova was our first real test of the season, again except UConn. Can't play that way against real competition. The Delaware game was a let down on us, players and coaches and kickers. Both our losses are our own fault, not the other teams.

Re: Towson @ Eastern Illinois

Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 3:52 pm
by aresef
Well, I meant freak accident as in what happens when you drive 90 mph down Towsontown Boulevard while tying your shoes.

Re: Towson @ Eastern Illinois

Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 4:24 pm
by jcfrancis
With the winter storm coming through and dumping 6" of snow prior to the game and during, could be messy. Field will be slick. Maybe a low scoring. Of course I could miss us.

Re: Towson @ Eastern Illinois

Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 6:31 pm
by Mvemjsunpx
andy7171 wrote:Vast amjority of people here and over at AGS are picking EIU, not sure where the paper tiger is coming from. Towson's LBs are the strength of the defense. If EIU's are better, then I'm going to have to do some research on them right now.
Towson's starting LBs (Clark & Gaddis) are real good, but there's virtually nothing behind them. EIU has a lot more depth there.

Re: Towson @ Eastern Illinois

Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 6:48 pm
by AZGrizFan
andy7171 wrote:
Gil Dobie wrote:Towson is as good as SIU and close to NIU. It's will not be a blowout, it will be a shootout.

Towson 52, EIEIU 49
We're the oddball team that gets into shootouts running the ball. 60-80 yard TD bursts at a time. Its weird.
It's amazing how lots of folks over on egriz are calling this their stone-cold lock for EIU. Funny how a team can go 11-2 in one of the big three power conferences and be considered a lock to lose to a team that went 12-1 in the historically weakest conference that has participated in autobid playoffs in the past 20 years.

Re: Towson @ Eastern Illinois

Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 7:00 pm
by jcfrancis
AZGrizFan wrote:
andy7171 wrote: We're the oddball team that gets into shootouts running the ball. 60-80 yard TD bursts at a time. Its weird.
It's amazing how lots of folks over on egriz are calling this their stone-cold lock for EIU. Funny how a team can go 11-2 in one of the big three power conferences and be considered a lock to lose to a team that went 12-1 in the historically weakest conference that has participated in autobid playoffs in the past 20 years.

Your flair for the dramatic is so ridiculous that it is sad. Griz fan......Montana? Siri, can you give him directions to the couch so he can watch the 8 teams in playoff?

Re: Towson @ Eastern Illinois

Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 10:41 pm
by Mvemjsunpx
AZGrizFan wrote:
andy7171 wrote: We're the oddball team that gets into shootouts running the ball. 60-80 yard TD bursts at a time. Its weird.
It's amazing how lots of folks over on egriz are calling this their stone-cold lock for EIU. Funny how a team can go 11-2 in one of the big three power conferences and be considered a lock to lose to a team that went 12-1 in the historically weakest conference that has participated in autobid playoffs in the past 20 years.
EIU nearly beat a top-25 FBS team and they crushed a bowl-bound FBS team. I think that negates any SOS questions you might have from their conference schedule.

Not to mention they didn't just run the table in conference, they slaughtered everyone in conference. Towson didn't come close to doing that. Towson also lost to two non-playoff teams & didn't play conference champ Maine.

Re: Towson @ Eastern Illinois

Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2013 4:35 am
by Gil Dobie
Mvemjsunpx wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:
It's amazing how lots of folks over on egriz are calling this their stone-cold lock for EIU. Funny how a team can go 11-2 in one of the big three power conferences and be considered a lock to lose to a team that went 12-1 in the historically weakest conference that has participated in autobid playoffs in the past 20 years.
EIU nearly beat a top-25 FBS team and they crushed a bowl-bound FBS team. I think that negates any SOS questions you might have from their conference schedule.

Not to mention they didn't just run the table in conference, they slaughtered everyone in conference. Towson didn't come close to doing that. Towson also lost to two non-playoff teams & didn't play conference champ Maine.
NIU had a MAC schedule with a win over B1G Iowa, the same Iowa that had a tough time with Missouri State and Iowa St (UNI victim).

Re: Towson @ Eastern Illinois

Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2013 5:53 am
by andy7171
Mvemjsunpx wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:
It's amazing how lots of folks over on egriz are calling this their stone-cold lock for EIU. Funny how a team can go 11-2 in one of the big three power conferences and be considered a lock to lose to a team that went 12-1 in the historically weakest conference that has participated in autobid playoffs in the past 20 years.
EIU nearly beat a top-25 FBS team and they crushed a bowl-bound FBS team. I think that negates any SOS questions you might have from their conference schedule.

Not to mention they didn't just run the table in conference, they slaughtered everyone in conference. Towson didn't come close to doing that. Towson also lost to two non-playoff teams & didn't play conference champ Maine.
True. We didn't play Maine this year. But we did whip UNH, who beat Maine twice.

Re: Towson @ Eastern Illinois

Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2013 7:49 am
by clawman
jcfrancis wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:
It's amazing how lots of folks over on egriz are calling this their stone-cold lock for EIU. Funny how a team can go 11-2 in one of the big three power conferences and be considered a lock to lose to a team that went 12-1 in the historically weakest conference that has participated in autobid playoffs in the past 20 years.

Your flair for the dramatic is so ridiculous that it is sad. Griz fan......Montana? Siri, can you give him directions to the couch so he can watch the 8 teams in playoff?
Ewww, sensative

Re: Towson @ Eastern Illinois

Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2013 7:57 am
by AZGrizFan
jcfrancis wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:
It's amazing how lots of folks over on egriz are calling this their stone-cold lock for EIU. Funny how a team can go 11-2 in one of the big three power conferences and be considered a lock to lose to a team that went 12-1 in the historically weakest conference that has participated in autobid playoffs in the past 20 years.

Your flair for the dramatic is so ridiculous that it is sad. Griz fan......Montana? Siri, can you give him directions to the couch so he can watch the 8 teams in playoff?
Hey, dingleberry....I'm not saying EIU can't win. I'm saying I'm surprised that so many are calling it their stone cold lock.

Re: Towson @ Eastern Illinois

Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2013 1:55 pm
by LDopaPDX
Eastern Illinois is a little like the FCS version of Florida State. They are a fantastic team from a typically bad conference. They've looked really good taking care of business in impressive fashion against no one of note. The question mark is what will happen when they finally step on a field with a team who can match up with their athletes. I suspect they'll be fine and win, but they still have to prove it.

Re: Towson @ Eastern Illinois

Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2013 1:58 pm
by jcfrancis
Not sensitive, just had an ultra-crappy day and let it get the best of me. Typically, I don't type things like that and send them. Although, I am a bit tired of people from the Big Sky belittling every other team from any other conference.

Re: Towson @ Eastern Illinois

Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2013 2:02 pm
by AZGrizFan
jcfrancis wrote:Not sensitive, just had an ultra-crappy day and let it get the best of me. Typically, I don't type things like that and send them. Although, I am a bit tired of people from the Big Sky belittling every other team from any other conference.
We don't belittle every other team from any other conference. Just teams from notoriously weak conferences like OVC, Patriot, Pioneer, MEAC, Big South, SWAC. I think that about covers it. Hey, don't get me wrong: I'd love nothing more than for some teams from each of those conferences to step forward, reverse 25 years of history and prove us wrong repeatedly, starting a NEW trend....but somehow it just never seems to happen.

Re: Towson @ Eastern Illinois

Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2013 4:44 pm
by jcfrancis
Image


O'Brien Field at EIU right now. Started snowing around 330.

Re: Towson @ Eastern Illinois

Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2013 5:34 pm
by grizzaholic
half an hour to go

Re: Towson @ Eastern Illinois

Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2013 6:03 pm
by Ibanez
The stadium is empty. And the visitor side looks as weak as Charleston southern.