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Walter Payton......

Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2013 7:29 pm
by jcfrancis
Jimmy G!

Re: Walter Payton......

Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2013 7:31 pm
by CatBlitz22
Should've been Adams or West. :coffee:

Re: Walter Payton......

Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2013 7:35 pm
by jcfrancis
JG 576 (74 first place)
Adams 446
West 370

Re: Walter Payton......

Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2013 7:37 pm
by AZGrizFan
jcfrancis wrote:JG 576 (74 first place)
Adams 446
West 370
I think they got the order exactly backwards.

Re: Walter Payton......

Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2013 7:39 pm
by clenz
I'd love to see the numbers Adams or west would put up in the ovc.

West 3500 yards rushing and 50 tds

Adams 6k passing and 45tds easy

Re: Walter Payton......

Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2013 7:41 pm
by CatBlitz22
AZGrizFan wrote:
jcfrancis wrote:JG 576 (74 first place)
Adams 446
West 370
I think they got the order exactly backwards.
Kind of a 1a/1b for me but in general, I agree.

Re: Walter Payton......

Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2013 7:47 pm
by AZGrizFan
clenz wrote:I'd love to see the numbers Adams or west would put up in the ovc.

West 3500 yards rushing and 50 tds

Adams 6k passing and 45tds easy
:x :lol:

Yep.

Re: Walter Payton......

Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2013 7:51 pm
by Mvemjsunpx
clenz wrote:I'd love to see the numbers Adams or west would put up in the ovc.

West 3500 yards rushing and 50 tds

Adams 6k passing and 45tds easy
Adams just played an OVC team & was below his season averages (including efficiency).

West would've likely had a bigger season, though. Run defense wasn't the OVC's forte.


I would've voted for Garoppolo over Adams based on where things were at the end of the regular season. Adams is unusually reliant on throwing the ball into coverage & having his receivers outleap defenders. Garoppolo had a somewhat disappointing performance against Towson, however—he let himself get rattled too easily.

Re: Walter Payton......

Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2013 8:59 pm
by EWURanger
I still think Adams is the better all-around player, but hard to argue too much with them going with the Senior. VA will win it before he's through. Congrats to Jimmy G.

Re: Walter Payton......

Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2013 9:12 pm
by The Kicker
clenz wrote:I'd love to see the numbers Adams or west would put up in the ovc.

West 3500 yards rushing and 50 tds

Adams 6k passing and 45tds easy
What the hell are you talking about! Big Sky has zero defense in it's league. Those other guys would have been getting numbers like that if they played in the Big Sky. Remember BSC had 3 of the worst defenses (Bottom 20) in all of FCS!

Re: Walter Payton......

Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2013 9:13 pm
by AZGrizFan
The Kicker wrote:
clenz wrote:I'd love to see the numbers Adams or west would put up in the ovc.

West 3500 yards rushing and 50 tds

Adams 6k passing and 45tds easy
What the hell are you talking about! Big Sky has zero defense in it's league. Those other guys would have been getting numbers like that if they played in the Big Sky. Remember BSC had 3 of the worst defenses (Bottom 20) in all of FCS!
When EVERY team in your conference sucks but one, it's easy to stick out.

Re: Walter Payton......

Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2013 10:21 pm
by CatBlitz22
AZGrizFan wrote:
The Kicker wrote:
What the hell are you talking about! Big Sky has zero defense in it's league. Those other guys would have been getting numbers like that if they played in the Big Sky. Remember BSC had 3 of the worst defenses (Bottom 20) in all of FCS!
When EVERY team in your conference sucks but one, it's easy to stick out.
:lol:

Re: Walter Payton......

Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2013 10:41 pm
by MrTitleist
Shoulda been West...

Re: Walter Payton......

Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 5:38 am
by Bison Fan in NW MN
Congrats to JG.

Well deserved!

Re: Walter Payton......

Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 5:42 am
by clenz
The Kicker wrote:
clenz wrote:I'd love to see the numbers Adams or west would put up in the ovc.

West 3500 yards rushing and 50 tds

Adams 6k passing and 45tds easy
What the hell are you talking about! Big Sky has zero defense in it's league. Those other guys would have been getting numbers like that if they played in the Big Sky. Remember BSC had 3 of the worst defenses (Bottom 20) in all of FCS!
the talent level is head and shoulders better in the bsc top to bottom

Re: Walter Payton......

Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 6:07 am
by kalm
The Kicker wrote:
clenz wrote:I'd love to see the numbers Adams or west would put up in the ovc.

West 3500 yards rushing and 50 tds

Adams 6k passing and 45tds easy
What the hell are you talking about! Big Sky has zero defense in it's league. Those other guys would have been getting numbers like that if they played in the Big Sky. Remember BSC had 3 of the worst defenses (Bottom 20) in all of FCS!
Nobody plays defense in the BSC.

Sincerely,

9 out of the last 11 Buchanon Award winners...
And Zach Zenner

Re: Walter Payton......

Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 6:28 am
by Bison Fan in NW MN
kalm wrote:
The Kicker wrote:
What the hell are you talking about! Big Sky has zero defense in it's league. Those other guys would have been getting numbers like that if they played in the Big Sky. Remember BSC had 3 of the worst defenses (Bottom 20) in all of FCS!
Nobody plays defense in the BSC.

Sincerely,

9 out of the last 11 Buchanon Award winners...
And Zach Zenner

ZZ had 71 yards on 21 carries against EWU. Plus he still went over 2000 yards again this year.

Re: Walter Payton......

Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 7:32 am
by Grizalltheway
Bison Fan in NW MN wrote:
kalm wrote:
Nobody plays defense in the BSC.

Sincerely,

9 out of the last 11 Buchanon Award winners...
And Zach Zenner

ZZ had 71 yards on 21 carries against EWU. Plus he still went over 2000 yards again this year.
Is 71 supposed to be impressive for him?

Re: Walter Payton......

Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 8:15 am
by AZGrizFan
Bison Fan in NW MN wrote:
kalm wrote:
Nobody plays defense in the BSC.

Sincerely,

9 out of the last 11 Buchanon Award winners...
And Zach Zenner

ZZ had 71 yards on 21 carries against EWU. Plus he still went over 2000 yards again this year.
He went over 2000 against the MVFC. Sounds like there could be some education done on defense there too...

Re: Walter Payton......

Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 8:29 am
by andy7171
I don't think coming in third in the Payton award is really going to affect T-West. Now the O-line, well, lets just say the EWU D-line better have a good pre-game breakfast.

Re: Walter Payton......

Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 8:55 am
by BrokenEagle07
clenz wrote:I'd love to see the numbers Adams or west would put up in the ovc.

West 3500 yards rushing and 50 tds

Adams 6k passing and 45tds easy

vs San Diego State - J. Garoppolo 31/46 - 361yds 3 TDs
vs Northern Illinois - J. Garoppolo 34/49 - 450yds 6 TDs 2 INT

2 games, and incase no one knew, outside the OVC. . . 811yds 9 TDs 2 INT.

He put up good numbers not only against weak teams int he OVC but also about FBS schools going to Bowl games. Not to mention the numbers he put up against a TSU defense (twice) that was ranked high nationally all year.

Not saying hes God's gift to football or that he should be drafted #1 pick or that hes even going to be a great QB in the next level... but the kid performed well.

Re: Walter Payton......

Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 9:26 am
by BDKJMU
MrTitleist wrote:Shoulda been West...
Agree. After the head to head game, I don't see how anyone could vote Garafolo over West....

Re: Walter Payton......

Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 9:27 am
by SACCAT
BDKJMU wrote:
MrTitleist wrote:Shoulda been West...
Agree. After the head to head game, I don't see how anyone could vote Garafolo over West....
Voting was done before that game.

Re: Walter Payton......

Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 9:44 am
by BDKJMU
SACCAT wrote:
BDKJMU wrote:
Agree. After the head to head game, I don't see how anyone could vote Garafolo over West....
Voting was done before that game.
They shouldn't have the voting until after the semis, & then announced right before the NC game. They use not announce it till the eve of the NC game...

Re: Walter Payton......

Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 10:22 am
by kalm
BDKJMU wrote:
SACCAT wrote:
Voting was done before that game.
They shouldn't have the voting until after the semis, & then announced right before the NC game. They use not announce it till the eve of the NC game...
Players on teams who don't make the playoffs might disagree. :coffee: