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They haven't beaten a team with a winning record yet. Combined record of teams they have beaten (not including DII game) is 13-26.

Lost all games against teams with winning records.

Because they are Montana.

dbackjon wrote:They haven't beaten a team with a winning record yet. Combined record of teams they have beaten (not including DII game) is 13-26.

Lost all games against teams with winning records.

WC(b)

Same could be said for Montana State, although they do have a win over 5-5 Central Arkansas.

Montana lost to a FBS, #1 NDSU and a ranked Cal Poly and beat South Dakota no bad losses
NAU lost to a FBS, South Dakota(2-7), and Northern Colorado(3-6), 2 bad losses, 2 good wins(EWU & Poly).

Both are 5-2 vs FCS

NAU does have an easier schedule and should win out, but Montana will have a tough time with EWU and Montana St left.

Remember Jon, the only poll that counts is the last poll of the season.

bandl wrote:Because they are Montana.

Danbl gets it.

On a more serious note, the combination of a vastly diminished FCS and an increase to a ridiculous 24 playoff slots ensures that some very poor teams will get in the field.

I mean, when you have people seriously considering 2014 JMU and Albany for playoff spots, well, that's a very sad indictment on FCS football.

Gil Dobie wrote:Montana lost to a FBS, #1 NDSU and a ranked Cal Poly and beat South Dakota no bad losses
NAU lost to a FBS, South Dakota(2-7), and Northern Colorado(3-6), 2 bad losses, 2 good wins(EWU & Poly).

Both are 5-2 vs FCS

NAU does have an easier schedule and should win out, but Montana will have a tough time with EWU and Montana St left.

Remember Jon, the only poll that counts is the last poll of the season.

Oh I know - still a lot of football to be played. As an NAU fan, I still expect 6-6

Just looking at schedules and how some teams have managed to stay ranked/be ranked on a poor resume. Losing by 20 to a team NAU beat...

93henfan wrote:On a more serious note, the combination of a vastly diminished FCS and an increase to a ridiculous 24 playoff slots ensures that some very poor teams will get in the field.

I mean, when you have people seriously considering 2014 JMU and Albany for playoff spots, well, that's a very sad indictment on FCS football.

FCS lost App and GSU (two traditional powers) and who else? Ga State - improves the FCS. ODU? meh.


Expanded playoffs - somewhat.

93henfan wrote:On a more serious note, the combination of a vastly diminished FCS and an increase to a ridiculous 24 playoff slots ensures that some very poor teams will get in the field.

I mean, when you have people seriously considering 2014 JMU and Albany for playoff spots, well, that's a very sad indictment on FCS football.

Where were all you guys when I lobbied against playoff expansion?

dbackjon wrote:

93henfan wrote:On a more serious note, the combination of a vastly diminished FCS and an increase to a ridiculous 24 playoff slots ensures that some very poor teams will get in the field.

I mean, when you have people seriously considering 2014 JMU and Albany for playoff spots, well, that's a very sad indictment on FCS football.

FCS lost App and GSU (two traditional powers) and who else? Ga State - improves the FCS. ODU? meh.


Expanded playoffs - somewhat.

We were Half good.

89Hen wrote:

93henfan wrote:On a more serious note, the combination of a vastly diminished FCS and an increase to a ridiculous 24 playoff slots ensures that some very poor teams will get in the field.

I mean, when you have people seriously considering 2014 JMU and Albany for playoff spots, well, that's a very sad indictment on FCS football.

Where were all you guys when I lobbied against playoff expansion?

I've always said 16 was the right number.

dbackjon wrote:

Gil Dobie wrote:Montana lost to a FBS, #1 NDSU and a ranked Cal Poly and beat South Dakota no bad losses
NAU lost to a FBS, South Dakota(2-7), and Northern Colorado(3-6), 2 bad losses, 2 good wins(EWU & Poly).

Both are 5-2 vs FCS

NAU does have an easier schedule and should win out, but Montana will have a tough time with EWU and Montana St left.

Remember Jon, the only poll that counts is the last poll of the season.

Oh I know - still a lot of football to be played. As an NAU fan, I still expect 6-6

Just looking at schedules and how some teams have managed to stay ranked/be ranked on a poor resume. Losing by 20 to a team NAU beat...

Losing to SoDak and UNC...

Grizalltheway wrote:

dbackjon wrote:

Oh I know - still a lot of football to be played. As an NAU fan, I still expect 6-6

Just looking at schedules and how some teams have managed to stay ranked/be ranked on a poor resume. Losing by 20 to a team NAU beat...

Losing to SoDak and UNC...

Losing to Poly by 20

I love the 24 field team. It gives more programs an incentive to improve their recruiting, facilities, etc and provides some interesting match ups.

kalm wrote:I love the 24 field team. It gives more programs an incentive to improve their recruiting, facilities, etc and provides some interesting match ups.

So you'd be OK with 32. How about 64?

Montana is ranked b/c they are the only non-MVFC FCS team that has a win over an MVFC team. duh. ;op

dbackjon wrote:

Gil Dobie wrote:Montana lost to a FBS, #1 NDSU and a ranked Cal Poly and beat South Dakota no bad losses
NAU lost to a FBS, South Dakota(2-7), and Northern Colorado(3-6), 2 bad losses, 2 good wins(EWU & Poly).

Both are 5-2 vs FCS

NAU does have an easier schedule and should win out, but Montana will have a tough time with EWU and Montana St left.

Remember Jon, the only poll that counts is the last poll of the season.

Oh I know - still a lot of football to be played. As an NAU fan, I still expect 6-6

Just looking at schedules and how some teams have managed to stay ranked/be ranked on a poor resume. Losing by 20 to a team NAU beat...

Fish ain't bitin' Jon?

dbackjon wrote:

Grizalltheway wrote:
Losing to SoDak and UNC...

Losing to Poly by 20

Losing to Poly by 20 is a better loss than losing at ALL to SoDak OR UNC, let alone BOTH.

AZGrizFan wrote:

dbackjon wrote:

Losing to Poly by 20

Losing to Poly by 20 is a better loss than losing at ALL to SoDak OR UNC, let alone BOTH.

Don't let logic get in the way of dback's butthurt.

Grizalltheway wrote:

AZGrizFan wrote:
Losing to Poly by 20 is a better loss than losing at ALL to SoDak OR UNC, let alone BOTH.

Don't let logic get in the way of dback's butthurt.

So......yore going to quality loss your way into the playoffs?

kalm wrote:

Grizalltheway wrote: Don't let logic get in the way of dback's butthurt.

So......yore going to quality loss your way into the playoffs?

No, we're going to 4 game win streak our way into them.

Dback complaining about Montana being ranked?

Yup, it's November.

89Hen wrote:

kalm wrote:I love the 24 field team. It gives more programs an incentive to improve their recruiting, facilities, etc and provides some interesting match ups.

So you'd be OK with 32. How about 64?

This.

Moving to 24 is practically headed toward the joke that is the participation trophy mentality that is today's FBS

Just for reference on that USD loss...

USD is winless in mvfc play and outscored by SC average of 35-12