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Big Sky Preseason Predictions Revisited
Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2014 7:34 am
by Mvemjsunpx
Mvemjsunpx wrote:- 1. Eastern Washington__8-0____11-1_____ Will the Adams-to-Kupp alley-oop train keep on rolling?
2. Montana _____________7-1____11-1_____ Even if they don't win the coin flips, the Griz should be in the playoffs
3. Montana State _______6-2_____8-4_____ The borderline Bobcats hope to be playing Thanksgiving weekend
4. Sacramento State ___ 5-3_____8-4 _____ Davis likely costs the Hornets a playoff spot
5. Portland State_______ 5-3_____7-5_____ Discipline is always the question for the Viks, not talent
6. Cal Poly _____________5-3_____7-5_____ Offense looks good, defense & special teams not so much
7. Northern Arizona ____5-3_____7-5_____ The 'Jacks come on strong late… after they're already out of it
8. Idaho State __________3-5_____5-7_____ "Mediocre" is a vast improvement for the Kramers
9. Southern Utah _______2-6_____2-10____ Suutah's most daunting opponent this season is Reality Check Tech
10.North Dakota _______2-6_____3-9_____ NoDak may actually be the worst team on paper, but their coaching looks promising
11.UC Davis ___________ 2-6_____3-8_____ They don't play most of the crappier teams, so the Aggies aren't really this bad
12.Weber State__________2-6_____2-10____ It seems like forever since McBride was there, doesn't it Weber fans?
13.Northern Colorado___0-8_____1-10____ Massive personnel losses aren't helpful for a team in desperate need of momentum
- 1. Eastern Washington__7-1____10-2_____ -1/-1 vs. my predictions
2. Montana _____________6-2_____8-4_____ -1/-3 vs. my predictions
3. Montana State _______6-2_____8-4_____ Spot on for my predictions
4. Idaho State __________6-2_____8-4_____ +3/+3 vs. my predictions
5. Northern Arizona ____5-3_____7-5_____ Spot on for my predictions
6. Cal Poly _____________5-3_____7-5_____ Spot on for my predictions
7. Sacramento State ___ 4-4_____7-5 _____ -1/-1 vs. my predictions
8. Southern Utah _______3-5_____3-9_____ +1/+1 vs. my predictions
9. North Dakota ________3-5_____5-7_____ +1/+2 vs. my predictions
10.Portland State_______ 2-6_____3-9_____ -3/-4 vs. my predictions
11.Weber State__________2-6_____2-10____ Spot on for my predictions
12.Northern Colorado___2-6_____3-8____ +2/+2 vs. my predictions
13.UC Davis ___________ 1-7_____2-9_____ -1/-1 vs. my predictions
For the +/-, the # on the left is for conference record while the # on the right is overall record.
Notes
I originally made these picks before Montana lost key players in August.
Idaho State exceeded my expectations a bit, and many people thought I was overrating them at 5-7.
NoCo did better than I expected, but I still don't think you can look at this past season as encouraging for the Bears.
Portland State was easily the most disappointing team. There's no excuse for that kind of record with that kind of talent.
Bests & Worsts Revisited
Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2014 8:49 am
by Mvemjsunpx
- Best Rushing Offense (preseason) - Cal Poly
Best Rushing Offense (reality) - Cal Poly
Worst Rushing Offense (preseason) - Northern Colorado
Worst Rushing Offense (reality) - Southern Utah
Best Passing Offense (preseason) - Eastern Washington
Best Passing Offense (reality) - Eastern Washington
Worst Passing Offense (preseason) - UC Davis
Worst Passing Offense (reality) - North Dakota
Best Overall Offense (preseason) - Eastern Washington
Best Overall Offense (reality) - Eastern Washington
Worst Overall Offense (preseason) - Northern Colorado
Worst Overall Offense (reality) - North Dakota
Best Run Defense (preseason) - Montana St.
Best Run Defense (reality) - North Dakota
Worst Run Defense (preseason) - Weber St.
Worst Run Defense (reality) - Southern Utah
Best Pass Defense (preseason) - Montana
Best Pass Defense (reality) - Montana
Worst Pass Defense (preseason) - Cal Poly
Worst Pass Defense (reality) - UC Davis
Best Overall Defense (preseason) - Montana
Best Overall Defense (reality) - Montana
Worst Overall Defense (preseason) - Weber St.
Worst Overall Defense (reality) - UC Davis
Best Special Teams (preseason) - Montana
Best Special Teams (reality) - Weber St.
Worst Special Teams (preseason) - Northern Colorado
Worst Special Teams (reality) - Cal Poly
Best Quarterback (preseason) - Vernon Adams (EWU)
Best Quarterback (reality) - Vernon Adams (EWU)
Best Running Back (preseason) - Gabe Manzanares (UCD)
Best Running Back (reality) - Xavier Finney (ISU)
Best Wide Receiver (preseason) - Cooper Kupp (EWU)
Best Wide Receiver (reality) - DeAndre Carter (SAC)
Best Tight End (preseason) - Josh Cook (ISU)
Best Tight End (reality) - Josh Cook (ISU)
Best WR/TE Corps (preseason) - Eastern Washington
Best WR/TE Corps (reality) - Eastern Washington
Best Offensive Lineman (preseason) - Cornelius Edison (PSU)
Best Offensive Lineman (reality) - Cornelius Edison (PSU)
Best Offensive Line (preseason) - Montana St.
Best Offensive Line - Portland St.
Best Defensive Lineman (preseason) - James Cowser (SUU)
Best Defensive Lineman (reality) - Zach Wagenmann (UMT)
Best Defensive Line (preseason) - Montana
Best Defensive Line (reality) - Montana
Best Linebacker (preseason) - Alex Singleton (MSU)
Best Linebacker (reality) - Nick Dzubnar (CP)
Best LB Corps (preseason) - Cal Poly
Best LB Corps (reality) - Idaho St.
Best Defensive Back (preseason) - Deon'tae Florence (WEB)
Best Defensive Back (reality) - Marcus Alford (NAU)
Best Secondary (preseason) - Montana
Best Secondary (reality) - Northern Arizona
Best Kicker (preseason) - Brady Stuart (UCD)
Best Kicker (reality) - Brad Cornish (SAC)
Best Punter (preseason) - Kyle Loomis (PSU)
Best Punter (reality) - Kyle Loomis (PSU)
Best Ret. Specialist (preseason) - Shawn Johnson (MSU)
Best Ret. Specialist (reality) - Ellis Onic (UNC)
Best Return Teams (preseason) - Montana St.
Best Return Teams (reality) - Weber St.
Best Cover Teams (preseason) - (none)
Best Cover Teams (reality) - Southern Utah
Best Coaching Job (preseason) - (none)
Best Coaching Job (reality) - Mike Kramer (ISU)
Re: Big Sky Preseason Predictions Revisited
Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2014 10:40 am
by Sapper
OK lets list them by the actual stats
Best Rushing Offense (reality) - Cal Poly
Worst Rushing Offense (reality) - Southern Utah
Best Passing Offense (reality) - Idaho State
Worst Passing Offense (reality) - Cal Poly
Best Overall Offense (reality) - ISU (#3 rushing #1 Passing EWU was #5 rushing and #2 Passing)
Worst Overall Offense (reality) - North Dakota
Best Run Defense (reality) - North Dakota
Worst Run Defense (reality) - Southern Utah
Best Pass Defense (reality) - Montana
Worst Pass Defense (reality) - UC Davis
Best Overall Defense (reality) - Montana
Worst Overall Defense (reality) - UC Davis
Best Special Teams (reality) - Weber St.
Worst Special Teams (reality) - Cal Poly
Best Quarterback (reality) - Justin Arias- ISU
Best Running Back (reality) - Xavier Finney (ISU)
Best Wide Receiver (reality) - DeAndre Carter (SAC)
Best Tight End (reality) - Josh Cook (ISU)
Best WR/TE Corps (reality) - Idaho State
Best Offensive Lineman (reality) - Cornelius Edison (PSU)
Best Offensive Line -ISU
Best Defensive Lineman (reality) - Zach Wagenmann (UMT)
Best Defensive Line (reality) - Montana
Best Linebacker (preseason) - Nick Dzubnar (CP)
Best LB Corps (reality) - Idaho St.
Best Defensive Back (reality) - Marcus Alford (NAU)
Best Secondary (reality) - Northern Arizona
Best Kicker (reality) - Brad Cornish (SAC)
Best Punter (reality) - Kyle Loomis (PSU)
Best Ret. Specialist (reality) - Ellis Onic (UNC)
Best Return Teams (reality) - Weber St.
Best Cover Teams (reality) - Southern Utah
Best Coaching Job (reality) - Mike Kramer (ISU)
I cant wait for next season I thought that ISU was a year away from putting things together. ON offense we did not as much on D. I have seen the talent that was red shirted this year and the recruits that have already made trips. Next season ISU wins the BSC.
Re: Bests & Worsts Revisited
Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2014 12:46 pm
by SDHornet
Mvemjsunpx wrote:
Best Linebacker (preseason) - Alex Singleton (MSU)
Best Linebacker (preseason) - Nick Dzubnar (CP)
Best Coaching Job (preseason) - (none)
Best Coaching Job (reality) - Mike Kramer (ISU)[/list]
If Sankey stayed healthy I think he would be in the running for the LB nod. He should be 100% for next season.
Also have to give Sears some credit for taking over at a tumultuous time and getting Sac to a winning season (even though he inherited a roster loaded with talent). I'm not sure how Sears doesn't get the permanent HC gig in Sac.
Re: Big Sky Preseason Predictions Revisited
Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2014 2:13 pm
by EWURanger
Sapper wrote:I cant wait for next season I thought that ISU was a year away from putting things together. ON offense we did not as much on D. I have seen the talent that was red shirted this year and the recruits that have already made trips. Next season ISU wins the BSC.
Doubftul. ISU had a good season, but they are probably not at the point where they can replace great talent easily from one year to the next. They're probably several consecutive winning seasons away from being able to do that. Arias graduating will be a huge loss, so it'll be interesting to see how well that offense performs with a new Qb.
Re: Big Sky Preseason Predictions Revisited
Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2014 3:59 pm
by Sapper
The two QB'S that are waiting are just as good. The o-line will return 4 and the x man will be back. The #2 RB is just as good. ISU already has the talent and will continue to improve. We get EWU UM and MSU in Pocatello and I think ISU will win. Next year ISU will go 10-2.
Re: Big Sky Preseason Predictions Revisited
Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2014 6:44 pm
by SuperHornet
Since when is an Olympic gymnast and Mirror Ball Trophy winner a Big Sky kick returner?
Re: Big Sky Preseason Predictions Revisited
Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2014 6:54 pm
by GoAgs72
Manzanares at RB for UC Davis was awesome in the games he played - especially Cal Poly. Unfortunately, he was hurt for half the season.
Re: Big Sky Preseason Predictions Revisited
Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2014 7:15 pm
by Mvemjsunpx
GoAgs72 wrote:Manzanares at RB for UC Davis was awesome in the games he played - especially Cal Poly. Unfortunately, he was hurt for half the season.
Yep. He probably was the best back over the second half of the season, but it's hard to argue with the fact that Finney led the league in rushing by a decent margin (and that's even with only 1 carry against Weber).
Re: Big Sky Preseason Predictions Revisited
Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2014 11:25 pm
by Screamin_Eagle174
Go home Sapper, you're drunk.
Re: Big Sky Preseason Predictions Revisited
Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2014 8:18 pm
by EWURanger
Sapper wrote:
Best Overall Offense (reality) - ISU (#3 rushing #1 Passing EWU was #5 rushing and #2 Passing)
You may want to recheck that.
Rodgers and Neary anchored an offensive line that helped the Eagles average a national-best 44.6 points and 522.8 yards of offense per game.
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Re: Big Sky Preseason Predictions Revisited
Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2014 8:33 pm
by Mvemjsunpx
EWURanger wrote:Rodgers and Neary anchored an offensive line that helped the Eagles average a national-best 44.6 points and 522.8 yards of offense per game.
The scoring number was a national best, but not the yardage number. ISU averaged 562 ypg (Yale led the nation with 571.5 ypg).
That being said, I gave EWU best overall offense because they scored more and played a slightly tougher schedule. Also, the yards-per-play numbers between EWU & ISU were actually about the same because the Bengals averaged a crazy 82.7 offensive plays-per-game.
Re: Big Sky Preseason Predictions Revisited
Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2014 8:45 am
by canyoncat
God if only our defense could have played just average
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We might have pulled out at least one more win between EWU or Cal Poly. No way with all those turn overs would we have beat UM. Never know though. You play with the cards you are dealt.