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Re: Feldman: Kupp on early Heisman List

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Best FCS prospect since Jerry Rice.
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Gil Dobie wrote:Best FCS prospect since Jerry Rice.
Nope.

Best FCS prospect since Charles Roberts....
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Re: Feldman: Kupp on early Heisman List

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This is stupid because he is a white guy and they will NEVER win another Heisman, watch McCaffery get fucked again this year and if he stays, the following year.

Always gonna go to a big dumb RB from the SEC since the FBS is a rigged inferior product.
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SuperHornet wrote:
Gil Dobie wrote:Best FCS prospect since Jerry Rice.
Nope.

Best FCS prospect since Charles Roberts....
With my reference to Jerry Rice, I meant it as WR prospect. Sorry for the confusion.
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SuperHornet wrote:
Gil Dobie wrote:Best FCS prospect since Jerry Rice.
Nope.

Best FCS prospect since Charles Roberts....
I heard he is a possession WR at this stage hope he improves on his footspeed at least 4.4????
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Gil Dobie wrote:
SuperHornet wrote:
Nope.

Best FCS prospect since Charles Roberts....
With my reference to Jerry Rice, I meant it as WR prospect. Sorry for the confusion.
What about Terrell Hudgins from Elon College doesn't he have the current FCS career marks for receptions and td's???
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Kupp has 328 career grabs Hudgins mark for career grabs(395) is in danger of being taken down!!!
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Over rated. I'll go ahead and stake it out. This stuff of comparing him to somebody like Jerry Rice is ridiculous. Let's come back in a few years and see where he is in his NFL career.
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JohnStOnge wrote:Over rated. I'll go ahead and stake it out. This stuff of comparing him to somebody like Jerry Rice is ridiculous. Let's come back in a few years and see where he is in his NFL career.
He must be drafted first of course lol.How about comparing him to Steve Largent another HOF guy!!!
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JohnStOnge wrote:Over rated. I'll go ahead and stake it out. This stuff of comparing him to somebody like Jerry Rice is ridiculous. Let's come back in a few years and see where he is in his NFL career.
He plays in an offense that allows him to post ridiculous numbers, but over rated? There isn't a better pair of hands in college football, period.

As to the Rice comparisons...I think those are more with respect to what those players did in college, not the NFL.
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EWURanger wrote:
JohnStOnge wrote:Over rated. I'll go ahead and stake it out. This stuff of comparing him to somebody like Jerry Rice is ridiculous. Let's come back in a few years and see where he is in his NFL career.
He plays in an offense that allows him to post ridiculous numbers, but over rated? There isn't a better pair of hands in college football, period.

As to the Rice comparisons...I think those are more with respect to what those players did in college, not the NFL.

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JohnStOnge wrote:Over rated. I'll go ahead and stake it out. This stuff of comparing him to somebody like Jerry Rice is ridiculous. Let's come back in a few years and see where he is in his NFL career.
Best prospect since Rice, does not compare him to Rice, it compares him to all that followed Rice. From watching him in person, he is not over-rated.
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JohnStOnge wrote:Over rated. I'll go ahead and stake it out. This stuff of comparing him to somebody like Jerry Rice is ridiculous. Let's come back in a few years and see where he is in his NFL career.
Who's over-rating him, troll?

He's already has the FCS touchdown record playing in only 39 games (less than Rice, Hudgeons, and Ball). If he gets healthy, he will easily own the yardage record (486 behind) and has a good shot at the receptions record (84 behind).

So yes...please go ahead and stake it out.
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EWURanger wrote:
JohnStOnge wrote:Over rated. I'll go ahead and stake it out. This stuff of comparing him to somebody like Jerry Rice is ridiculous. Let's come back in a few years and see where he is in his NFL career.
He plays in an offense that allows him to post ridiculous numbers, but over rated? There isn't a better pair of hands in college football, period.

As to the Rice comparisons...I think those are more with respect to what those players did in college, not the NFL.
Rice played in a pass happy offense while at Mississippi Valley St look what it did for him.He still has marks in the NCAA record book.
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dal4018 wrote:
EWURanger wrote:
He plays in an offense that allows him to post ridiculous numbers, but over rated? There isn't a better pair of hands in college football, period.

As to the Rice comparisons...I think those are more with respect to what those players did in college, not the NFL.
Rice played in a pass happy offense while at Mississippi Valley St look what it did for him.He still has marks in the NCAA record book.
Another thing to consider is the level of competition. Kupp has done as well if not better against Pac-12 teams. Who was MVSU playing at the time?
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dal4018 wrote:Rice played in a pass happy offense while at Mississippi Valley St look what it did for him.He still has marks in the NCAA record book.
Another thing to consider is the level of competition. Kupp has done as well if not better against Pac-12 teams. Who was MVSU playing at the time?
They played against FCS schools unfortunately they never met FBS type schools.The fact he played vs Pac-12 schools should help his case of course.I wish that Rice had played vs FBS schools.
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Who's over-rating him, troll?
The people who, for instance, voted for him to win the Peyton award last year when Kade Harrington had a more impressive season.
He's already has the FCS touchdown record playing in only 39 games (less than Rice, Hudgeons, and Ball). If he gets healthy, he will easily own the yardage record (486 behind) and has a good shot at the receptions record (84 behind).
He does not have the FCS touchdown record. He has 61 touchdowns. Brian Westbrook holds the record at 89.

But time will tell. Let me know when he has a NFL career like Jerry Rice had. It's possible that will happen. But it's very unlikely.
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kalm wrote:
dal4018 wrote:Rice played in a pass happy offense while at Mississippi Valley St look what it did for him.He still has marks in the NCAA record book.
Another thing to consider is the level of competition. Kupp has done as well if not better against Pac-12 teams. Who was MVSU playing at the time?
The "level of competition" question will be answered by how Kupp does in the NFL. Good luck to him in his effort to do as well as Rice did.
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JohnStOnge wrote:Over rated. I'll go ahead and stake it out. This stuff of comparing him to somebody like Jerry Rice is ridiculous. Let's come back in a few years and see where he is in his NFL career.
Gil said he was the best FCS (wide receiver) prospect SINCE Rice, not that he's as good or better than Rice. And he is absolutely correct in saying that if you don't include Moss.
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JohnStOnge wrote:
kalm wrote:
Who's over-rating him, troll?
The people who, for instance, voted for him to win the Peyton award last year when Kade Harrington had a more impressive season.
He's already has the FCS touchdown record playing in only 39 games (less than Rice, Hudgeons, and Ball). If he gets healthy, he will easily own the yardage record (486 behind) and has a good shot at the receptions record (84 behind).
He does not have the FCS touchdown record. He has 61 touchdowns. Brian Westbrook holds the record at 89.

But time will tell. Let me know when he has a NFL career like Jerry Rice had. It's possible that will happen. But it's very unlikely.
Does he have the WR record for career TDs??? I think Kupp could be this generations STEVE LARGENT with more size 6-2 215 and ability.
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JohnStOnge wrote:He does not have the FCS touchdown record. He has 61 touchdowns. Brian Westbrook holds the record at 89.
Receiving record. But I'm pretty sure you knew that.

Calling him over-rated is a joke. If anything, he is UNDER-RATED, playing in the FCS. You obviously haven't watched him play that much.

Kade Harrington did not have a more impressive season last year, or remotely as impressive overall resume. Try again.
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This guy looks like he is in the 4.4 neighborhood something that was said by NFL Draft Scout.
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Grizalltheway wrote:
JohnStOnge wrote:Over rated. I'll go ahead and stake it out. This stuff of comparing him to somebody like Jerry Rice is ridiculous. Let's come back in a few years and see where he is in his NFL career.
Gil said he was the best FCS (wide receiver) prospect SINCE Rice, not that he's as good or better than Rice. And he is absolutely correct in saying that if you don't include Moss.
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The reason he does so well against FCS competition is because they mostly single cover him
In FBS nobody singles up with him - typically they do an over under zone against him
Regardless of what else the defense is running he's always doubled
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