FCS Championship Game #1 JMU vs #2 NDSU Frisco Baby

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Who Wins the FCS Championship

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BDKJMU wrote:
dal4018 wrote:What about college basketball and the grind on the players but the media never complains.
On the one hand you have point there. I don't follow basketball (other than to know JMU sucks) but I believe the season is 2-3 weeks, around 5 games longer than it was back in the 90s..$$$$ has been placed in front of the well being & interest of the student athletes.. course with big time college basketball the notion of "student athletes" is a joke..

On the other hand, basketball is a contact sport. Football is a collision sport. 15 games in 16 weeks is a little too much IMHOP. These guys aren't the pros..

With the P5 title game, it will be 15 games (or 14 if Bama) in I think about 20 weeks..
The three weeks is far better for the fans of the schools involved - much easier to plan and to get there, a lot of build-up, etc. For the rest of FCS, the three weeks is terrible because, frankly, people just forget about it. There's no tie-in with the playoffs because all of that momentum and interest wanes and after the holidays there's just other things to do and other football to care about (NFL playoffs, FBS playoffs). But I like that it's changed to three weeks - there isn't really a big national following of FCS anyway so who cares if the few people who would've cared are caring or not, and most importantly, for the fans of the teams involved, it's tremendously better.
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BDKJMU wrote:Common Opponent:
NDSU lost @ SDSU 33-20
JMU beat SDSU 51-16. _______________________________________________________________________

Scoring Offense:
NDSU - 2nd, 40.3 ppg
JMU - 8th, 35.9 ppg

Total Offense:
NDSU - 8th, 462.1 ypg
JMU - 21st, 431.7 ypg

Passing Offense:
JMU - 41st, 230.2 ypg
NDSU - 88th, 180.0 ypg

Rushing Offense:
NDSU - 4th, 282.1 ypg
JMU - 19th, 201.5 ypg_______________________________________________________________________

Scoring Defense:
JMU - 1st, 10.7 ppg
NDSU - 2nd, 11.5 ppg

Total Defense:
NDSU - 1st, 237.1 ypg
JMU - 3rd, 251.1 ypg

Passing Defense:
NDSU - 3rd, 147.9 ypg
JMU - 12th, 163.8 ypg

Rushing Defense:
JMU - 6th, 87.4 ypg
NDSU - 7th, 89.2 ypg________________________________________________________________________

Turnover Margin:
JMU - 43 gained, 19 lost. +24 TO.
NDSU - 33 gained, 16 lost. +17 TO.

Starting QB Passing Efficiency:
RANK NAME CL POSITION G PASS ATT PASS COM INT PASS YDS PASS TD PASS EFF
NDSU - 2nd Easton Stick Jr. QB 14 242 151 8 2336 27 173.7
JMU - 17th Bryan Schor Sr. QB 14 385 257 12 3074 26 149.9
MVFC offenses have improved over the past couple of seasons while the CAA seems to struggle in that category so while the stats favor JMU you still have to consider SoS. Both teams took down really great offenses in the semi's and it's tough to tell which one is truly better.

I think JMU needs to continue it's takeaway feasting and Schor is going to have to make more plays through the air to beat the Bizon.
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Bison fans waiting on ticket request, Frisco, or pit of misery, Dilly dilly
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dal4018 wrote:
89Hen wrote: Teams (conferences) that refuse to play in the playoffs shouldn't be ranked.
I wish that was not the case I want to see the MEAC&SWAC in the playoffs.
And Ivy. :nod:
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Gil Dobie wrote:Bison fans waiting on ticket request, Frisco, or pit of misery, Dilly dilly
Say what? :suspicious:
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Didn't make the cut for tickets. Not going to chase tickets, so I'll watch from comfort of home.
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89Hen wrote:
dal4018 wrote:I wish that was not the case I want to see the MEAC&SWAC in the playoffs.
And Ivy. :nod:
Excuse me the Ivy league as well.

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Reading the Dukes sight, sounds like JMU takes the ball when they win the coin toss. The Bison defer when they win the coin toss. All things considered, JMU will have the ball first.
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Gil Dobie wrote:Didn't make the cut for tickets. Not going to chase tickets, so I'll watch from comfort of home.
That sucks Gil. The stadium is still construction shortened capacity and might see a crowd of under 20k. NDSU probably 3/4 of the Aug purchases. I’m guessing it will be something like 12k NDSU, 8K JMU.

From what was reported on the JMU board, about 4,000+ of JMU’s 5300 alottment went to Duke Club members. Most of the rest went to the 25 & under young alum Duke Club members & a student lottery. Not sure where the players families tickets came from. I know the bands (up to 350 allowed) don’t come out of each school’s 5300..

Reportedly about 3500 Duke Club members. Not all are football season ticket holders. I’m guesstimating around 1700 ordered, about 1200 made the cut (lowest ranking I saw posted that didn’t was in the low 1200s), and it was reported about 500 didn’t make the cut (order limit for all of them would have been 4, that’s 1500-2,000 tickets). I’m sure were many in the bottom half of the rankings who didn’t even bother, non Duke Club members who would have ordered several thousand tickets and gone if they could get them, and probably a couple thousand more students..

I know NDSU will have as many if not more would go if they could get tickets fans. Bottom line is between the 2 schools there’s going to be 10-15k fans that would go if it was a bigger stadium. Could easily sell out a 30k stadium, maybe 35k. Sucks that Frisco is hosting until 2020. Toyota Stadium is entirely too small to be hosting the NC game. It needs to be moved to a 30k+ stadium like we had in the 90s when Marshall hosted it their then 30k stadium..
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BDKJMU wrote:
Gil Dobie wrote:Didn't make the cut for tickets. Not going to chase tickets, so I'll watch from comfort of home.
That sucks Gil. The stadium is still construction shortened capacity and might see a crowd of under 20k. NDSU probably 3/4 of the Aug purchases. I’m guessing it will be something like 12k NDSU, 8K JMU.

From what was reported on the JMU board, about 4,000+ of JMU’s 5300 alottment went to Duke Club members. Most of the rest went to the 25 & under young alum Duke Club members & a student lottery. Not sure where the players families tickets came from. I know the bands (up to 350 allowed) don’t come out of each school’s 5300..

Reportedly about 3500 Duke Club members. Not all are football season ticket holders. I’m guesstimating around 1700 ordered, about 1200 made the cut (lowest ranking I saw posted that didn’t was in the low 1200s), and it was reported about 500 didn’t make the cut (order limit for all of them would have been 4, that’s 1500-2,000 tickets). I’m sure were many in the bottom half of the rankings who didn’t even bother, non Duke Club members who would have ordered several thousand tickets and gone if they could get them, and probably a couple thousand more students..

I know NDSU will have as many if not more would go if they could get tickets fans. Bottom line is between the 2 schools there’s going to be 10-15k fans that would go if it was a bigger stadium. Could easily sell out a 30k stadium, maybe 35k. Sucks that Frisco is hosting until 2020. Toyota Stadium is entirely too small to be hosting the NC game. It needs to be moved to a 30k+ stadium like we had in the 90s when Marshall hosted it their then 30k stadium..
I thought the game was today its 1-6-18!!!!

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dal4018 wrote:
BDKJMU wrote: That sucks Gil. The stadium is still construction shortened capacity and might see a crowd of under 20k. NDSU probably 3/4 of the Aug purchases. I’m guessing it will be something like 12k NDSU, 8K JMU.

From what was reported on the JMU board, about 4,000+ of JMU’s 5300 alottment went to Duke Club members. Most of the rest went to the 25 & under young alum Duke Club members & a student lottery. Not sure where the players families tickets came from. I know the bands (up to 350 allowed) don’t come out of each school’s 5300..

Reportedly about 3500 Duke Club members. Not all are football season ticket holders. I’m guesstimating around 1700 ordered, about 1200 made the cut (lowest ranking I saw posted that didn’t was in the low 1200s), and it was reported about 500 didn’t make the cut (order limit for all of them would have been 4, that’s 1500-2,000 tickets). I’m sure were many in the bottom half of the rankings who didn’t even bother, non Duke Club members who would have ordered several thousand tickets and gone if they could get them, and probably a couple thousand more students..

I know NDSU will have as many if not more would go if they could get tickets fans. Bottom line is between the 2 schools there’s going to be 10-15k fans that would go if it was a bigger stadium. Could easily sell out a 30k stadium, maybe 35k. Sucks that Frisco is hosting until 2020. Toyota Stadium is entirely too small to be hosting the NC game. It needs to be moved to a 30k+ stadium like we had in the 90s when Marshall hosted it their then 30k stadium..
I thought the game was today its 1-6-18!!!!
Bison fans just got their ticket emails yesterday. Glad it wasn't today. lol
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Gil Dobie wrote:
dal4018 wrote: I thought the game was today its 1-6-18!!!!
Bison fans just got their ticket emails yesterday. Glad it wasn't today. lol
Yes they would been have royally screwed!!!!!
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BDKJMU wrote:Yesterday streamers just happened to be added to the list of banned items inside Toyota Stadium for the NC game. Houston was just asked what his thoughts were on the streamer ban during his press conference today. He responded with "I think the NCAA just ensured that there will be more streamers than ever in Frisco, TX this year." :nod:
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Think I put this on the 3 weeks thread. 1st time ever a 1/2 hr pre game show (on ESPNU) before the NC on ESPN2.
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Cheapest tickets on stubhub is $325.
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Gil Dobie wrote:Cheapest tickets on stubhub is $325.
Wow $325 this is not cheap!!!!!!

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Holy All Americans Batman:

JMU: (8)
Offense:
-rSr OT Aaron Stinnie: 1st team AP, 1st Team STATS, 1st team HERO, 2nd team AFCA, Walter Camp.
-rSo OT Jahee Jackson: HERO Sophmore.

-Fr P Harry O’Kelly: HERO Freshman.

Defense:
-rSr DE Andrew Ankrah: 1st team AP, 1st team STATS, 1st team AFCA, 1st team HERO, Walter Camp. FCS Athletics Directors Association*. CONCENSUS.
-rSr Safety Jordan Brown: 1st team AP, 1st team HERO.
-Jr Corner Rashad Robinson: 1st team AFCA, 2nd team AP, 3rd team STATS, 3rd team HERO.
-rSr Safety Raven Greene: 2nd team STATS, 2nd team HERO.
-rSr ILB Kyre Hawkins: 3rd team HERO.

*Only announced 11 All Americans for 11 positions:
http://www.nacda.com/sports/div1aaada/s ... 17aaa.html

NDSU: (7)
Offense
-rSr OC Austin Kuhnert: 1st team AP, 1st team STATS, 1 team AFCA, 1st team HERO.
-Jr RB Bruce Anderson: 2nd team HERO
This season: 213 carries, 1186 yards, 5.3 ypc, 82.4 ypg, 11 TDs.

Defense
-rSr LB Nick DeLuca: 1st team AP, 1st team STATS, 1st Team HERO.
-Jr Safety Robbie Grimsley, 2nd team STATS.
-rSr Safety Tre Dempsey, 1st team AFCA, 2nd team HERO, Walter Camp. 6 INTS this season
-Fr LB Jabril Cox: HERO Freshman.


The NDSU long snapper was a 1st team STATS & HERO- but really, naming an All American long snapper is silly..Almost like naming an All American holder..
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BDKJMU wrote:Holy All Americans Batman:

JMU: (8)
Offense:
-rSr OT Aaron Stinnie: 1st team AP, 1st Team STATS, 1st team HERO, 2nd team AFCA, Walter Camp.
-rSo OT Jahee Jackson: HERO Sophmore.

-Fr P Harry O’Kelly: HERO Freshman.

Defense:
-rSr DE Andrew Ankrah: 1st team AP, 1st team STATS, 1st team AFCA, 1st team HERO, Walter Camp. FCS Athletics Directors Association*. CONCENSUS.
-rSr Safety Jordan Brown: 1st team AP, 1st team HERO.
-Jr Corner Rashad Robinson: 1st team AFCA, 2nd team AP, 3rd team STATS, 3rd team HERO.
-rSr Safety Raven Greene: 2nd team STATS, 2nd team HERO.
-rSr ILB Kyre Hawkins: 3rd team HERO.

*Only announced 11 All Americans for 11 positions:
http://www.nacda.com/sports/div1aaada/s ... 17aaa.html

NDSU: (7)
Offense
-rSr OC Austin Kuhnert: 1st team AP, 1st team STATS, 1 team AFCA, 1st team HERO.
-Jr RB Bruce Anderson: 2nd team HERO
This season: 213 carries, 1186 yards, 5.3 ypc, 82.4 ypg, 11 TDs.

Defense
-rSr LB Nick DeLuca: 1st team AP, 1st team STATS, 1st Team HERO.
-Jr Safety Robbie Grimsley, 2nd team STATS.
-rSr Safety Tre Dempsey, 1st team AFCA, 2nd team HERO, Walter Camp. 6 INTS this season
-Fr LB Jabril Cox: HERO Freshman.


The NDSU long snapper was a 1st team STATS & HERO- but really, naming an All American long snapper is silly..Almost like naming an All American holder..
I think these two schools will form the next great rivalry in the FCS.

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I think this might turn into a high scoring game????

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Pretty cool interview of Houston by the NYT.
https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/12/28/s ... ion/sports
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BDKJMU wrote:
Wildcat Ryan wrote:After watching both semi final games, i am convinced that Weber should be the 3rd ranked team when the final polls come out.
FWIW agreed. I'll take a stab at it. I know Soft Houston, JSU, and UCA were seeds and will all finish top 10 in the STATS & Coaches', but they shouldn't..
1. JMU/NDSU winner
2. JMU/NDSU loser
3. Weber 11-3
4. SDSU 11-3
5 Wofford 10-3.
6. WIU 8-4
7. SUU 9-3
8. SBU 10-3
9. SHSU 12-2
10. Kennesaw 12-2
11. JSU 10-2
12. UCA 10-2
13. NC A&T 12-0
14. UNI 8-5
15. UNH 9-5
16. S Dakota 8-5
17. Samford 8-4
18. Furman 8-5
19. Elon 8-4
20. EWU 7-4
21. San Diego 10-3
22. Nichols 8-4
23. Yale 9-1
24. Grambling 11-2
25. McNeese 9-2
A&T has frosh of impact on defense say hello to DB Franklin McCain he might have a chance at the next level he just needs to gain more size right now at 5'11 175 he will meet up with WRs on steroids hope he gets more size 6'2 205 more speed 4.36?????

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dal4018 wrote:A&T has frosh of impact on defense say hello to DB Franklin McCain he might have a chance at the next level he just needs to gain more size right now at 5'11 175 he will meet up with WRs on steroids hope he gets more size 6'2 205 more speed 4.36?????
Cox is 6'3", 227 LB, lead the Bison in tackles, solo and total, and can cover receivers. MVFC freshman and newcomer of the year. Might need more speed for the next level too. Dual threat QB in high School. Watch for #42 in the championship game.
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Gil Dobie wrote:
dal4018 wrote:A&T has frosh of impact on defense say hello to DB Franklin McCain he might have a chance at the next level he just needs to gain more size right now at 5'11 175 he will meet up with WRs on steroids hope he gets more size 6'2 205 more speed 4.36?????
Cox is 6'3", 227 LB, lead the Bison in tackles, solo and total, and can cover receivers. MVFC freshman and newcomer of the year. Might need more speed for the next level too. Dual threat QB in high School. Watch for #42 in the championship game.
Wow leads the team in total tackles very impressive for a frosh I don't care where you play!!!!

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NDSU press conference from today:
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Sounds like the CB's are practicing, along with the #1 and 3 running backs. Still now sure if or how much they will play.
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