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Two Questions

Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2018 3:45 pm
by polsongrizz
1. Why is he still on the team?
2. How is it that a campus cop twenty miles away hears about this and gets there before Spokane police do? Sounds like they were hoping to cover this up.
http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2018/d ... ndout-jay/

According to the police report, Eastern Washington University Police Officer Nick Bickley arrived and found a man, later identified as Tiuli, kicking a man who was down. The victim was later identified as Ikinofo Tiuli, who is the Eagles football player’s brother, Beghtol said.

Bickley “witnessed Jay-Tee kicking his brother in the head,” Beghtol said. “That’s when the brother lost consciousness.”

Re: Two Questions

Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2018 4:02 pm
by AZGrizFan
Sounds like a real nice guy.

Re: Two Questions

Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2018 4:04 pm
by polsongrizz
AZGrizFan wrote:Sounds like a real nice guy.
No shit. All of us have got into some form of fight with siblings but kicking them in the head until they are unconscious is something else. :ohno:

Re: Two Questions

Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2018 4:06 pm
by AZGrizFan
polsongrizz wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:Sounds like a real nice guy.
No shit. All of us have got into some form of fight with siblings but kicking them in the head until they are unconscious is something else. :ohno:
Well, to be fair, he did break the window of his car. :tothehand: :tothehand: :lol:

Re: Two Questions

Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2018 4:09 pm
by polsongrizz
AZGrizFan wrote:
polsongrizz wrote: No shit. All of us have got into some form of fight with siblings but kicking them in the head until they are unconscious is something else. :ohno:
Well, to be fair, he did break the window of his car. :tothehand: :tothehand: :lol:
Was it one of those high end Yugo's?

Re: Two Questions

Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2018 5:00 pm
by kalm
polsongrizz wrote:1. Why is he still on the team?
2. How is it that a campus cop twenty miles away hears about this and gets there before Spokane police do? Sounds like they were hoping to cover this up.
http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2018/d ... ndout-jay/

According to the police report, Eastern Washington University Police Officer Nick Bickley arrived and found a man, later identified as Tiuli, kicking a man who was down. The victim was later identified as Ikinofo Tiuli, who is the Eagles football player’s brother, Beghtol said.

Bickley “witnessed Jay-Tee kicking his brother in the head,” Beghtol said. “That’s when the brother lost consciousness.”
1) He was suspended before the Maine game pending investigation and was not allowed to practice at least as of Monday. EWU has been pretty damned good about suspensions and dismissals over the years. Part of me says cut him loose but there's something in this country called due process. It's in the hands now of a university disciplinary committee. If they kick him out of school it's over. If not, it will then be up to Coach Best.

2) Where does it say the campus cop was 20 miles away? In fact why would an EWU cop be 20 miles away in the middle of the night anyway? And Spokane police wouldn't have been called. It would have been City of Cheney police or Spokane County Sheriffs responsible for shit that goes on that jurisdiction.

Re: Two Questions

Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2018 6:39 pm
by JohnStOnge
We have to understand Polynesian culture. It was a family matter. The charges should be dropped and he should play. We want the best possibility of a competitive title game.

Re: Two Questions

Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2018 7:46 pm
by UNI88
JohnStOnge wrote:We have to understand Polynesian culture. It was a family matter. The charges should be dropped and he should play. We want the best possibility of a competitive title game.
Should Sharia Law trump state & local laws and allow a husband to beat or rape his wife or mutilate his daughters' genitalia? If you want to live in the US you should be implicitly agreeing to be governed by the constitution and all federal, state and local laws.

Re: Two Questions

Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2018 9:44 pm
by polsongrizz
kalm wrote:
polsongrizz wrote:1. Why is he still on the team?
2. How is it that a campus cop twenty miles away hears about this and gets there before Spokane police do? Sounds like they were hoping to cover this up.
http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2018/d ... ndout-jay/

According to the police report, Eastern Washington University Police Officer Nick Bickley arrived and found a man, later identified as Tiuli, kicking a man who was down. The victim was later identified as Ikinofo Tiuli, who is the Eagles football player’s brother, Beghtol said.

Bickley “witnessed Jay-Tee kicking his brother in the head,” Beghtol said. “That’s when the brother lost consciousness.”
1) He was suspended before the Maine game pending investigation and was not allowed to practice at least as of Monday. EWU has been pretty damned good about suspensions and dismissals over the years. Part of me says cut him loose but there's something in this country called due process. It's in the hands now of a university disciplinary committee. If they kick him out of school it's over. If not, it will then be up to Coach Best.

2) Where does it say the campus cop was 20 miles away? In fact why would an EWU cop be 20 miles away in the middle of the night anyway? And Spokane police wouldn't have been called. It would have been City of Cheney police or Spokane County Sheriffs responsible for shit that goes on that jurisdiction.
Calm down there, I was just kind of fucking with you on the second one. I was distracted since we were having a beer at Fred's. :thumb: I would like to know though why a campus cop is out in town and the first to get there though.
As for due process, if that is the case then why suspend him at all? Did the cop lie about what he saw? If not then the dude us obviously guilty, yeah I know, and should be gone.
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Re: Two Questions

Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2018 11:19 pm
by Grizalltheway
polsongrizz wrote:
kalm wrote:
1) He was suspended before the Maine game pending investigation and was not allowed to practice at least as of Monday. EWU has been pretty damned good about suspensions and dismissals over the years. Part of me says cut him loose but there's something in this country called due process. It's in the hands now of a university disciplinary committee. If they kick him out of school it's over. If not, it will then be up to Coach Best.

2) Where does it say the campus cop was 20 miles away? In fact why would an EWU cop be 20 miles away in the middle of the night anyway? And Spokane police wouldn't have been called. It would have been City of Cheney police or Spokane County Sheriffs responsible for shit that goes on that jurisdiction.
Calm down there, I was just kind of fucking with you on the second one. I was distracted since we were having a beer at Fred's. :thumb: I would like to know though why a campus cop is out in town and the first to get there though.
As for due process, if that is the case then why suspend him at all? Did the cop lie about what he saw? If not then the dude us obviously guilty, yeah I know, and should be gone.
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Seriously dude? Fred's? :lol: :?

Re: Two Questions

Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2018 12:19 am
by polsongrizz
We probably stop in there twice a week for "beers." :flash:

Re: Two Questions

Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2018 5:42 am
by kalm
polsongrizz wrote:
kalm wrote:
1) He was suspended before the Maine game pending investigation and was not allowed to practice at least as of Monday. EWU has been pretty damned good about suspensions and dismissals over the years. Part of me says cut him loose but there's something in this country called due process. It's in the hands now of a university disciplinary committee. If they kick him out of school it's over. If not, it will then be up to Coach Best.

2) Where does it say the campus cop was 20 miles away? In fact why would an EWU cop be 20 miles away in the middle of the night anyway? And Spokane police wouldn't have been called. It would have been City of Cheney police or Spokane County Sheriffs responsible for shit that goes on that jurisdiction.
Calm down there, I was just kind of fucking with you on the second one. I was distracted since we were having a beer at Fred's. :thumb: I would like to know though why a campus cop is out in town and the first to get there though.
As for due process, if that is the case then why suspend him at all? Did the cop lie about what he saw? If not then the dude us obviously guilty, yeah I know, and should be gone.
Image :mrgreen:
1) Listen, Cochese....campus police have arrest jurisdiction throughout the city and have for quite some time now just like city cops were granted statewide jurisdiction a long time ago. It's a win-win where the city gets increased LE presence while the U picks up the tab. Plus, many of the infractions are caused by the students throughout the city. This ain't some 70's cop show, where someone says 'you can't arrest me! You're out of your jurisdiction, copper!" :lol:

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2) Due process doesn't end at the arrest because...you know...mistakes can be made by cops and prosecutors too. Polynesian lives matter!

Re: Two Questions

Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2018 9:43 am
by CAA Flagship
kalm wrote: 2) Where does it say the campus cop was 20 miles away? In fact why would an EWU cop be 20 miles away in the middle of the night anyway? And Spokane police wouldn't have been called. It would have been City of Cheney police or Spokane County Sheriffs responsible for shit that goes on that jurisdiction.
Don't you have Mounties in the Palouse? All named Dudley?

Re: Two Questions

Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2018 10:29 am
by kalm
CAA Flagship wrote:
kalm wrote: 2) Where does it say the campus cop was 20 miles away? In fact why would an EWU cop be 20 miles away in the middle of the night anyway? And Spokane police wouldn't have been called. It would have been City of Cheney police or Spokane County Sheriffs responsible for shit that goes on that jurisdiction.
Don't you have Mounties in the Palouse? All named Dudley?
"Welcome to Canada..."

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Re: Two Questions

Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2018 11:07 am
by polsongrizz
kalm wrote:
polsongrizz wrote: Calm down there, I was just kind of fucking with you on the second one. I was distracted since we were having a beer at Fred's. :thumb: I would like to know though why a campus cop is out in town and the first to get there though.
As for due process, if that is the case then why suspend him at all? Did the cop lie about what he saw? If not then the dude us obviously guilty, yeah I know, and should be gone.
Image :mrgreen:
1) Listen, Cochese....campus police have arrest jurisdiction throughout the city and have for quite some time now just like city cops were granted statewide jurisdiction a long time ago. It's a win-win where the city gets increased LE presence while the U picks up the tab. Plus, many of the infractions are caused by the students throughout the city. This ain't some 70's cop show, where someone says 'you can't arrest me! You're out of your jurisdiction, copper!" :lol:

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2) Due process doesn't end at the arrest because...you know...mistakes can be made by cops and prosecutors too. Polynesian lives matter!
Sounds like a scam to me. You never replied to the fact that if due process is your concern defender of the Islands then why suspend at all until he goes to court? Why do you hate Canucks so much after all they have done for you?
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Re: Two Questions

Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2018 5:07 pm
by mtjack
1. Do other states have strip clubs at truck stops or is this just a "Montana" thing? I've driven past the one in Dillon many a times but never pulled the trigger due to time constraints or driving elderly, less "adventurous" relatives.

2. I initially though the correct spelling was "Cochise". But urban dictionary corrected me. Thanks, Kalm. I learned something today.

3. I learned one thing in grade school when I lived in California and that is don't get involved in school yard/lunch room Polynesian disputes.

Re: Two Questions

Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2018 5:51 pm
by JohnStOnge
UNI88 wrote:
JohnStOnge wrote:We have to understand Polynesian culture. It was a family matter. The charges should be dropped and he should play. We want the best possibility of a competitive title game.
Should Sharia Law trump state & local laws and allow a husband to beat or rape his wife or mutilate his daughters' genitalia? If you want to live in the US you should be implicitly agreeing to be governed by the constitution and all federal, state and local laws.
I just want a competitive national championship game.

Re: Two Questions

Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2018 7:30 pm
by CID1990
JohnStOnge wrote:
UNI88 wrote:
Should Sharia Law trump state & local laws and allow a husband to beat or rape his wife or mutilate his daughters' genitalia? If you want to live in the US you should be implicitly agreeing to be governed by the constitution and all federal, state and local laws.
I just want a competitive national championship game.
Congrats on not being triggered by the word “trump”

You’re on your way to recovery, John

Re: RE: Re: Two Questions

Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2018 9:44 pm
by UNI88
JohnStOnge wrote:
UNI88 wrote:
Should Sharia Law trump state & local laws and allow a husband to beat or rape his wife or mutilate his daughters' genitalia? If you want to live in the US you should be implicitly agreeing to be governed by the constitution and all federal, state and local laws.
I just want a competitive national championship game.
So you're willing to set aside principle in order to get favorable results? Stop, you're acting like an evangelical Christian.

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Re: Two Questions

Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2018 12:23 am
by polsongrizz
Good shit up above. Just back from Fred's, again. Good times tonight, glad we know all of the strippers and the house moms.

Re: Two Questions

Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2018 6:32 am
by kalm
polsongrizz wrote:
kalm wrote:
1) Listen, Cochese....campus police have arrest jurisdiction throughout the city and have for quite some time now just like city cops were granted statewide jurisdiction a long time ago. It's a win-win where the city gets increased LE presence while the U picks up the tab. Plus, many of the infractions are caused by the students throughout the city. This ain't some 70's cop show, where someone says 'you can't arrest me! You're out of your jurisdiction, copper!" :lol:

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2) Due process doesn't end at the arrest because...you know...mistakes can be made by cops and prosecutors too. Polynesian lives matter!
Sounds like a scam to me. You never replied to the fact that if due process is your concern defender of the Islands then why suspend at all until he goes to court? Why do you hate Canucks so much after all they have done for you?
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Of course it sounds like a scam to you. When have you ever missed an opportunity to display your EWOO envy? :lol:

And I already did answer the question.

1) Due process protects both private and public rights. You can arrest an innocent man for murder but due process doesn't mean you can't incarcerate them in order to protect the public in case they end up being guilty.

2) As mentioned, it was turned over to a school disciplinary board. It's out of Best's hands. Regardless of whether he was released by the cops to await the outcome of the investigation, if the the school decides to suspend or dismiss him he won't be eligible will he?

Where did you get your understanding of the law, the toilet store?

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Re: Two Questions

Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2018 1:03 pm
by polsongrizz
LOL, I like this game...

Re: Two Questions

Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2018 1:40 pm
by kalm
polsongrizz wrote:LOL, I like this game...
Well you are my Wes Mantouth.

Re: Two Questions

Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2018 6:33 pm
by polsongrizz
kalm wrote:
polsongrizz wrote:LOL, I like this game...
Well you are my Wes Mantouth.
"So I sure as shit ain't afraid to burn here on Earth." :lol:

Re: Two Questions

Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2018 7:44 pm
by AZGrizFan
mtjack wrote:1. Do other states have strip clubs at truck stops or is this just a "Montana" thing? I've driven past the one in Dillon many a times but never pulled the trigger due to time constraints or driving elderly, less "adventurous" relatives.

2. I initially though the correct spelling was "Cochise". But urban dictionary corrected me. Thanks, Kalm. I learned something today.

3. I learned one thing in grade school when I lived in California and that is don't get involved in school yard/lunch room Polynesian disputes.
It’s not a strip club at a truck stop. It’s a truck stop at a strip club. Biiiiiiiig difference.