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Re: QF - #6 Montana @ #3 Weber

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JohnStOnge wrote:
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I don't think that it is. UNI was higher rated in both total and scoring defense despite playing in a tougher conference.

The main thing, though, is Weber State's offense. It got 113 yards. That's less than UNI got playing against JMU. Not by much (just one yard). But less. They had a +5 advantage in the giveaway/takeaway stat and won by 7 points.

If I"m a JMU fan I'm thinking the better of the two potential opponents did not win.
Not a tougher conference this year by almost any metric and it’s certainly not a tougher offensive conference. Weber state faced better offenses than UNI has.
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Re: QF - #6 Montana @ #3 Weber

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Bobcat wrote:Absolute lead pipe lock that Weber beats JMU by double digits this week.

Make sure to swing back by and admit you guys are wrong when the Dukes go down. I won't even say I told you so.
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Re: RE: Re: QF - #6 Montana @ #3 Weber

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If I'm a JMU fan I'm happy that Weber won that game. I'm thinking the better team lost due to turnovers.
A big reason those turnovers happened, though, is that Weber was able to consistently get pressure while rushing just 3 or 4.
Not possible.

Wahlberg has repeatedly told everyone our OL has improved (it hasn't) so it has to be true.

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Re: RE: Re: QF - #6 Montana @ #3 Weber

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ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:
Mvemjsunpx wrote:
A big reason those turnovers happened, though, is that Weber was able to consistently get pressure while rushing just 3 or 4.
Not possible.

Wahlberg has repeatedly told everyone our OL has improved (it hasn't) so it has to be true.

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Re: QF - #6 Montana @ #3 Weber

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kalm wrote:
JohnStOnge wrote:
I don't think that it is. UNI was higher rated in both total and scoring defense despite playing in a tougher conference.

The main thing, though, is Weber State's offense. It got 113 yards. That's less than UNI got playing against JMU. Not by much (just one yard). But less. They had a +5 advantage in the giveaway/takeaway stat and won by 7 points.

If I"m a JMU fan I'm thinking the better of the two potential opponents did not win.
Not a tougher conference this year by almost any metric and it’s certainly not a tougher offensive conference. Weber state faced better offenses than UNI has.
Well, Sagarin has the MVC as rated tougher than the Big Sky this year to date (https://www.usatoday.com/sports/ncaaf/s ... onference/). So does Massey (https://www.masseyratings.com/cf/fcs/ratings?c=1). Also the college football rankings composite (https://www.masseyratings.com/cf/compare1aa.htm and scroll to the bottom).

Look, Weber State got 113 yards of offense. They had a + FIVE in the giveaway/takeaway stat and won the game by only 7 points. If I'm a fan of the team that's got to play the winner of that game I'm thinking I got a break in that the better team did not win that game. The best team does not always win. And I'm thinking this is an example of that.
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Re: QF - #6 Montana @ #3 Weber

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JohnStOnge wrote:
kalm wrote:
Not a tougher conference this year by almost any metric and it’s certainly not a tougher offensive conference. Weber state faced better offenses than UNI has.
Well, Sagarin has the MVC as rated tougher than the Big Sky this year to date (https://www.usatoday.com/sports/ncaaf/s ... onference/). So does Massey (https://www.masseyratings.com/cf/fcs/ratings?c=1). Also the college football rankings composite (https://www.masseyratings.com/cf/compare1aa.htm and scroll to the bottom).

Look, Weber State got 113 yards of offense. They had a + FIVE in the giveaway/takeaway stat and won the game by only 7 points. If I'm a fan of the team that's got to play the winner of that game I'm thinking I got a break in that the better team did not win that game. The best team does not always win. And I'm thinking this is an example of that.
Wow, I stand corrected. I thought the BSC was rated higher. My bad.

I agree that Montana was the slightly better team but the BSC top 4 were like that all year. Still, the Wildcats held two pretty good FBS opponents to low points. Weber’s pass D is what JMU May exploit.
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Re: QF - #6 Montana @ #3 Weber

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kalm wrote:
JohnStOnge wrote:
Well, Sagarin has the MVC as rated tougher than the Big Sky this year to date (https://www.usatoday.com/sports/ncaaf/s ... onference/). So does Massey (https://www.masseyratings.com/cf/fcs/ratings?c=1). Also the college football rankings composite (https://www.masseyratings.com/cf/compare1aa.htm and scroll to the bottom).

Look, Weber State got 113 yards of offense. They had a + FIVE in the giveaway/takeaway stat and won the game by only 7 points. If I'm a fan of the team that's got to play the winner of that game I'm thinking I got a break in that the better team did not win that game. The best team does not always win. And I'm thinking this is an example of that.
Wow, I stand corrected. I thought the BSC was rated higher. My bad.

I agree that Montana was the slightly better team but the BSC top 4 were like that all year. Still, the Wildcats held two pretty good FBS opponents to low points. Weber’s pass D is what JMU May exploit.
In different weather i think saturday’s Game turns out in the Griz favor....
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Re: QF - #6 Montana @ #3 Weber

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AZGrizFan wrote:
kalm wrote:
Wow, I stand corrected. I thought the BSC was rated higher. My bad.

I agree that Montana was the slightly better team but the BSC top 4 were like that all year. Still, the Wildcats held two pretty good FBS opponents to low points. Weber’s pass D is what JMU May exploit.
In different weather i think saturday’s Game turns out in the Griz favor....
Are yo saying it was too "Cold and Loud" for um
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Re: QF - #6 Montana @ #3 Weber

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cats2506 wrote:
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In different weather i think saturday’s Game turns out in the Griz favor....
Are yo saying it was too "Cold and Loud" for um
Too dark and too snowy. And I’m sure there were issues with the turf. That’s a must.
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Re: QF - #6 Montana @ #3 Weber

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cats2506 wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:
In different weather i think saturday’s Game turns out in the Griz favor....
Are yo saying it was too "Cold and Loud" for um
This. Weber schemed well on D and Snead played poorly. Feel for the kid, but many teams have had success in those conditions.
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Re: QF - #6 Montana @ #3 Weber

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kalm wrote:
cats2506 wrote: Are yo saying it was too "Cold and Loud" for um
This. Weber schemed well on D and Snead played poorly. Feel for the kid, but many teams have had success in those conditions.
Yeah I watched it, Sneed kept throwing balls where he shouldn't have
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Re: QF - #6 Montana @ #3 Weber

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Bobcat wrote:Absolute lead pipe lock that Weber beats JMU by double digits this week.

Make sure to swing back by and admit you guys are wrong when the Dukes go down. I won't even say I told you so.
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