Semis: #3 Weber St (11-3) @ #2 JMU (13-1), Sat, 12/21, 6:30 PM, ESPNU

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Weber St
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Semis: #3 Weber St (11-3) @ #2 JMU (13-1), Sat, 12/21, 6:30 PM, ESPNU

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JMU (13-1/8-0)
L @ WVU 20-13
W Saint Francis 44-7
W Morgan St 63-12
W @ Tenn Chattanooga 37-14
W @ #24 Elon 45-10
W @ #24 Stony Brook 45-38 (OT)
W #5 Villanova 38-24
W @ William and Mary 38-10
W #16 Towson 27-10
W #23 New Hampshire 54-16
W Richmond 48-6
W @ Rhode Island 55-21__________________
W #11 Monmouth 66-21 (2nd round playoffs)
W # #6 UNI 17-0 (Quarterfinals)

Weber St (11-3/7-1)
L @ San Diego St 6-0
W Cal Poly 41-21
L @ Nevada 19-13
W UNI 29-17
W @ Idaho 41-35
W SUU 29-14
W NAU 51-28
W @ #22 UCD 36-20
W #6 Sac St 36-17
W #22 N Dakota 30-27
L @ #4/5 Montana 35-16
W Idaho St 38-10
W #15 Kennesaw 26-20 (2nd Round playoffs)
W #6 Montana 17-10 (Quarterfinals)
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Re: Semis: #3 Weber St (11-3) @ #2 JMU (13-1), Sat, 12/21, 6:30 PM, ESPNU

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No poll, where's the poll, we like polls.
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Re: Semis: #3 Weber St (11-3) @ #2 JMU (13-1), Sat, 12/21, 6:30 PM, ESPNU

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Scoring:
JMU – 2nd, 42.1 ppg
WSU – 51st, 28.8 ppg

Total Offense:
JMU – 7th, 472.9 ypg 71 TDs
WSU – 89th, 345.4 ypg 46 TDs

Rushing Offense:
JMU – 10th, 250.9 ypg 42 TDs
WSU – 55th, 156.6 ypg 27 TDs

Passing Offense:
JMU – 60th, 221.9 ypg 29 TDs
WSU – 90th, 188.8 ypg 19 TDs________________________________________________________

Scoring Defense:
JMU – 3rd, 14.9 ppg
WSU – 14th, 20.1 ppg

Total Defense:
JMU – 1st, 265.3 ypg 25 TDs
WSU – 23rd, 336.6 ypg 34 TDs

Rushing Defense:
JMU – 1st, 60.4 ypg 7 TDs
WSU – 13th, 113.5 ypg 9 TDs

Passing Defense:
JMU – 42nd, 204.9 ypg 16 TDs
WSU – 70th, 223.1 ypg 22 TDs__________________________________________________________

Turnovers:
WSU - +16, 31 gained, 15 lost.
JMU - +11, 26 gained, 15 lost.

Sacks:
JMU – 46 sacks, 23 sacks allowed.
WSU – 44 sacks, 22 sacks allowed.

Passing Efficiency:
JMU – 2nd Ben DiNucci. rSr. 227-319 (71.2%) 2,982 yds 25 TDs 5 INTs
WSU – 74th Jake Constantine. Jr. 194-313 (62%) 2,037 yds 13 TDs 10 INTs

FG
JMU 22-28 (Then Fr Ethan Ratke kicked 46 yd game winner in quarterfinals 2 years ago).
Weber 23-28 (Trey Tuttle).

Strength of Schedule (Massey):
WSU – 4th
JMU – 14th

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Re: Semis: #3 Weber St (11-3) @ #2 JMU (13-1), Sat, 12/21, 6:30 PM, ESPNU

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Gil Dobie wrote:No poll, where's the poll, we like polls.
Happy?

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Re: Semis: #3 Weber St (11-3) @ #2 JMU (13-1), Sat, 12/21, 6:30 PM, ESPNU

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BDKJMU wrote:
Gil Dobie wrote:No poll, where's the poll, we like polls.
Happy?
Awesome!
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Re: Semis: #3 Weber St (11-3) @ #2 JMU (13-1), Sat, 12/21, 6:30 PM, ESPNU

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As a long-time follower of the Big Fluff, I have no choice but to pull for the two road teams this weekend.

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Re: Semis: #3 Weber St (11-3) @ #2 JMU (13-1), Sat, 12/21, 6:30 PM, ESPNU

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There would be more of a chance for an upset if Montana hadn't flipping turned it over 5 times in order to find a way to lose to Weber State.
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Re: Semis: #3 Weber St (11-3) @ #2 JMU (13-1), Sat, 12/21, 6:30 PM, ESPNU

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Post season Honors. HERO, AP, STATS, and ADA have released their All American teams.

JMU
17 made All CAA at 18 positions (are 2 from prior seasons that didn't receive All CAA this season); Nation leading 10 named All Americans.

Offense (8 made all CAA, 2 made All CAA previous seasons, only position without All CAA is LT (2 rotating).
1st Team All CAA
-#6 rSr QB Ben DiNucci (2018 Pitt transfer) (CAA Offensive POTY) (AA HERO 2nd team).
-#31 Jr RB Percy Agyei-Obese (AA 3rd team HERO).
-#77 Jr RT Liam Fornadel (AA 1st team HERO, STATS; 2nd team AP).
-#73 Sr OC Mac Patrick (AA 3rd team HERO).
2nd Team All CAA
-#3 Gr WR Brandon Polk (Penn St transfer).
-#84 Sr TE Dylan Stapleton (2018 Div II transfer/walkon).
3rd Team All CAA
-#7 rJr RB Jawon Hamilton (2018 UCF transfer).
-#69 rJr OG Truvell Wilson (2017 Div III trander/walk-on).

-#10 rSr WR Riley Stapleton (6'5"/230) (2nd team All CAA 2018, suspended 1st 3 games, didn't have the #s for ALL CAA).
-#60 rSr OG Jahee Jackson (2nd team All CAA at OT 2017).

Defense
1st team All CAA
-#5 rSr DE Ron'Dell Carter (2017 Rutgers transfer) (CAA Defensive POTY)(AA 1st team AP, HERO, STATS, ADA, ADA national DL of the year) (57 tackles, 25 TFL, 11.5 sacks).
-#7 Sr DE John Daka (AA 1st team STATS, 2nd team AP, HERO) (58 tackles, 26 TFL (#1 in nation), 16.5 sacks (#1 in nation), 4 forced fumbles, 1 recovery, 3 PBU).
-#2 rSr LB Dimitri Holloway (AA 2nd team AP, HERO, 3rd team STATS) (111 tackles, 10.5 TFL).
-#24 rJr S D'Angelo Amos
-#21 Sr S Adam Smith (AA 3rd team AP, STATS, HERO) (60 tackles, 6 INT).
2nd Team All CAA
-#1 rSr CB Rashad Robinson (2017 1st Team & AA).
3rd Team All CAA
-#92 Jr DL Mike Greene
-#52 Sr LB Landan Word (2017 UVA transfer).

Special Teams 1st Team All CAA
-#91Jr PK Ethan Ratke (AA 3rd team AP, HERO) (22 of 28 FG)
-#24 rJr PR D'Angelo Amos (AA 2nd team HERO) (1 PR return TD this season (3 last season)).
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Re: Semis: #3 Weber St (11-3) @ #2 JMU (13-1), Sat, 12/21, 6:30 PM, ESPNU

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WSU
-#8 QB Jake Constatine: Not one of 7 QBs named All Big Sky. 194 of 313, 62%, 13 TDs/10 INT.

Big Sky, with 13 teams, named around 128 players 1st, 2nd, 3rd Team All Big Sky and Honorable mention, so an avg of almost 10 players per team.
https://bigskyconf.com/news/2019/11/26/ ... unced.aspx

14 WSU players named All Big Sky, 4 named All American.

Offense
1st team All BS
-#20 rSo RB Josh Davis. 170 carries, 1075 yds, 6.3 ypc, 11 TDs, 77 ypg. *HIP INJURY VS MONTANA. STATUS?
-#34 rJr FB Clay Moss
-#75 rJr OL Ty Whitworth
3rd Team All BS
-#4 rJr RB Kevin Smith
-#71 rJr OL Ben Bos

Defense
1st team All BS
-#94 Sr DE Jonah Williams (BS Co Defensive POTY) (AA 1st team HERO, 2nd team STATS)
-#91 rJr DL Jared Schiess
2nd team All BS
-#9 Sr DE Adam Rodriguez (AA 3rd team HERO)
-#53 Sr OLB Auston Tesch
-#5 Fr DB Eddie Heckard
3rd Team All BS
-#44 rSo DE George Tarlas
-#7 Jr DB Preston Smith

Special Teams 2nd Team All BS
-#47 Jr K Trey Tuttle (AA 2nd team HERO).
-#41 Sr P Doug Lloyd (Sr). Like JMU's punter, another Australian.

Weber has some old players, although not as many 25-26 year olds as 2 years ago when JMU played them. Among their 14 named All BS:
-Five 24 yr olds. 3 other 24-26 year olds on the 2 deep. All apparently due to LDS missions.
-Not many brothers. I only see 3.

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Re: Semis: #3 Weber St (11-3) @ #2 JMU (13-1), Sat, 12/21, 6:30 PM, ESPNU

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JMU has a lot of JR and Sr's, lots of experience.
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Re: Semis: #3 Weber St (11-3) @ #2 JMU (13-1), Sat, 12/21, 6:30 PM, ESPNU

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Gil Dobie wrote:JMU has a lot of JR and Sr's, lots of experience.
Yep. JMU's starters (13 of 22 have redshirts):
Offense: 6 seniors, 5 juniors
Defense: 6 seniors, 5 juniors

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Re: Semis: #3 Weber St (11-3) @ #2 JMU (13-1), Sat, 12/21, 6:30 PM, ESPNU

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Distraction time..
https://www.sltrib.com/sports/2019/12/1 ... -football/
JMU had to deal with similar last year the week before the 2nd rd upset loss @ Colgate..

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Weber's been winning playoff games the same way UNI was: by not doing much of anything on offense. The Wildcat O has only averaged 14.5 ppg and exactly 200 ypg in two postseason games. I see this contest playing out much the same way last week's JMU/UNI game did. Weber might get a cheap TD off a blocked punt or something, but the Dukes are going to be doing a bit more of the "non-cheap" scoring.
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BDKJMU wrote:Distraction time..
https://www.sltrib.com/sports/2019/12/1 ... -football/
JMU had to deal with similar last year the week before the 2nd rd upset loss @ Colgate..
UNM already hired somebody else.

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BDKJMU wrote:Distraction time..
https://www.sltrib.com/sports/2019/12/1 ... -football/
JMU had to deal with similar last year the week before the 2nd rd upset loss @ Colgate..
Wow, this was Mondays news, by Monday night it wasn't a thing anymore

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Re: Semis: #3 Weber St (11-3) @ #2 JMU (13-1), Sat, 12/21, 6:30 PM, ESPNU

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cats2506 wrote:
BDKJMU wrote:Distraction time..
https://www.sltrib.com/sports/2019/12/1 ... -football/
JMU had to deal with similar last year the week before the 2nd rd upset loss @ Colgate..
Wow, this was Mondays news, by Monday night it wasn't a thing anymore
More like by maybe Wed night it wasn’t a thing anymore.
That article was updated Wed. Also the 1st 2 NM articles that I clicked on announcing there new HC were posted yesterday/Thur. Maybe there are earlier ones. I posted early AM hrs Fri. So I was a day or 2 off.

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Re: Semis: #3 Weber St (11-3) @ #2 JMU (13-1), Sat, 12/21, 6:30 PM, ESPNU

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Weber might score...

:shock:

It could happen

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Re: Semis: #3 Weber St (11-3) @ #2 JMU (13-1), Sat, 12/21, 6:30 PM, ESPNU

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Weather looking good for the 6:30 PM ECB kickoff. Harrisoburg Accuweather hourly forecast less than 18 hrs out:
6 PM: 36 degrees, Mostly clear, winds South 5 mph, gust 6 mph, Precip 0%
7 PM: 33 degrees, Mostly clear, Precip 0%
8 PM: 30 degrees, Mostly clear, Precip 0%
9 PM: 29 degrees, Mostly clear, Precip 0%
10 PM: 28 degrees, Mostly clear, Precip 0%

A LOT better than last weeks Fri night mid 30s/rain, announced attendance under 8.5k. Sat night with no rain, but students gone should equal about 14-15k is my guess.

2017 semis vs SDSU had a playoff record 16,528, but that was the weekend after students finished exams. JMU students finished exams a week ago. Not as good as close to 23k avg regular season, but unlike the playoffs, those #s are inflated.

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Re: Semis: #3 Weber St (11-3) @ #2 JMU (13-1), Sat, 12/21, 6:30 PM, ESPNU

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I predicted 31 to 10 last week after the line had climbed to -19.5.. I'll never predict a shut out. Even with Weber's Davis possibly limited, odds are very high they will score at least 1 TD, even with a struggling offense. They have a good defense & special teams. Too many ways to score a score a TD- on a busted or trick play, defense, special teams..

JMU and Weber both have excellent FG kickers (Weber's is 23-28, JMU's is 22-28 (was 22-26, but missed last 2 vs UNI, from 47, which would have been a carerr long, and from 36. Before that had hit 10 straight).

So I got to go with Weber scoring a minimum 10 points. I was gonna go with JMU 27, Weber 10, but Mvemjsumpx already picked that score. JMU has only not covered the spread 2 times this season:
-in their OT win @ SBU (which was a 3rd straight road game after 2 Sept hot ones with 5 JMU turnovers, by far their worst game of the season
-last week vs UNI.
Right now the line has climbed to JMU-16.5 (I forgot what it opened with). I'll go with:
JMU 27, Weber 13.

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BDKJMU wrote:I predicted 31 to 10 last week after the line had climbed to -19.5.. I'll never predict a shut out. Even with Weber's Davis possibly limited, odds are very high they will score at least 1 TD, even with a struggling offense. They have a good defense & special teams. Too many ways to score a score a TD- on a busted or trick play, defense, special teams..

JMU and Weber both have excellent FG kickers (Weber's is 23-28, JMU's is 22-28 (was 22-26, but missed last 2 vs UNI, from 47, which would have been a carerr long, and from 36. Before that had hit 10 straight).

So I got to go with Weber scoring a minimum 10 points. I was gonna go with JMU 27, Weber 10, but Mvemjsumpx already picked that score. JMU has only not covered the spread 2 times this season:
-in their OT win @ SBU (which was a 3rd straight road game after 2 Sept hot ones with 5 JMU turnovers, by far their worst game of the season
-last week vs UNI.
Right now the line has climbed to JMU-16.5 (I forgot what it opened with). I'll go with:
JMU 27, Weber 13.
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Let's go Weeber!

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The CAA is weak.
Everything is better with Montana.

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93henfan wrote:Let's go Weeber!

Weebers wobble but they don't fall down!!
I thought you wanted NDSU to lose?

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BDKJMU wrote:
93henfan wrote:Let's go Weeber!

Weebers wobble but they don't fall down!!
I thought you wanted NDSU to lose?
I want JMU to lose too.

No more Bush's, Clinton's, NDSU's, or JMU's!

Throw the bastards out!!!!!

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