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Hoping Mvemjsunpx still does his excellent team by position group comparison preview.

In the mean time, who ya got?

I’ll take the Cats

Should be one hell of a game. I think MSU will be much better prepared than in 2021. Both QB’s have become excellent passers and they have weapons. Scoring should be in the mid 20’s each:

FCS Championship Odds via BetMGM
#1 Montana State vs. #2 North Dakota State
Spread: Montana State -3.5
Total Points: 56.5
Moneyline: MSU -165, NDSU +140
12/22 Opening Spread: MSU -3.5
12/22 Opening Total: 55.5

MSU rushing/game 301 for 108 against
NDSU 192 for 119 against

MSU passing/game 183 for 190 against
NDSU 225 for 197 against


Total offense:
MSU 484 for 299 against
NDSU 418 for 316 against

NDSU leads the nation in turnover margin at 19 with only 6 turnovers lost. MSU is 27th at 8.

SoS NDSU #1, MSU 16.

Common opponent:

MSU vs USD: 31-17
NDSU @ USD: 28-29

Big Sky team goes down

Bison win this again

Going to be a cold weather game, temps in the 30s.

Leaving tomorrow, winter storm warning around KC for Saturday night.

kalm wrote: ↑Wed Jan 01, 2025 7:17 am Hoping Mvemjsunpx still does his excellent team by position group comparison preview.

I stopped doing those because they were way too time consuming (especially the defense ones).

I think the Bobcats will win. Mellott & friends are really dangerous, and NDSU's defense hasn't exactly been dominant statistically.

Mvemjsunpx wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2025 9:00 pm

kalm wrote: ↑Wed Jan 01, 2025 7:17 am Hoping Mvemjsunpx still does his excellent team by position group comparison preview.

I stopped doing those because they were way too time consuming (especially the defense ones).

I think the Bobcats will win. Mellott & friends are really dangerous, and NDSU's defense hasn't exactly been dominant statistically.

You deserve to retire. Trust me, I know how time consuming that must have been.

Agree on the cats. I’d also give a slight edge on coaching. Just a little more experience at the top.

kalm wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2025 9:16 pm

Mvemjsunpx wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2025 9:00 pm

I stopped doing those because they were way too time consuming (especially the defense ones).

I think the Bobcats will win. Mellott & friends are really dangerous, and NDSU's defense hasn't exactly been dominant statistically.

You deserve to retire. Trust me, I know how time consuming that must have been.

Agree on the cats. I’d also give a slight edge on coaching. Just a little more experience at the top.

I can do this at least…




Spread - Bobcats by 3.5
Sagarin - Bobcats by <1
Massey - Bison by 3 (even though it has MSU higher ranked )

NDSU usually keys on stopping a certain player or part of the other teams offense. I'm guessing they try and stop Tommy. Defense has improve since the beginning of the season. Miller starting running the ball again vs SDSU. Should be fun.

Mvemjsunpx wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2025 11:11 pm

kalm wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2025 9:16 pm

You deserve to retire. Trust me, I know how time consuming that must have been.

Agree on the cats. I’d also give a slight edge on coaching. Just a little more experience at the top.

I can do this at least…




Spread - Bobcats by 3.5
Sagarin - Bobcats by <1
Massey - Bison by 3 (even though it has MSU higher ranked )

So Massey’s single game prediction metrics are different than the season ranking metrics? Interesting and potentially accurate if intentional.

And it never ceases to amaze me how tantalizing but doubt creating the lines are.

I’d want to take the cats but it’s essentially still a toss up.

Mvemjsunpx wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2025 11:11 pm

kalm wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2025 9:16 pm

You deserve to retire. Trust me, I know how time consuming that must have been.

Agree on the cats. I’d also give a slight edge on coaching. Just a little more experience at the top.

I can do this at least…




Spread - Bobcats by 3.5
Sagarin - Bobcats by <1
Massey - Bison by 3 (even though it has MSU higher ranked )

Trust Massey

Stats go out the window when Big Sky faces MVFC

Gil Dobie wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2025 7:47 pm Leaving tomorrow, winter storm warning around KC for Saturday night.

Drive carefully and have a great time Gil!

kalm wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2025 9:16 pm

Mvemjsunpx wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2025 9:00 pm
I stopped doing those because they were way too time consuming (especially the defense ones).

I think the Bobcats will win. Mellott & friends are really dangerous, and NDSU's defense hasn't exactly been dominant statistically.

You deserve to retire. Trust me, I know how time consuming that must have been.

Agree on the cats. I’d also give a slight edge on coaching. Just a little more experience at the top.

Thank you Mvemjsunpx!

Both teams are run-oriented someone is going to have to unleash it's passing game Monday Night for a win!!!!!

UNI88 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 04, 2025 1:18 pm

kalm wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2025 9:16 pm

You deserve to retire. Trust me, I know how time consuming that must have been.

Agree on the cats. I’d also give a slight edge on coaching. Just a little more experience at the top.

Thank you Mvemjsunpx!

The high in Frisco today is supposed to be 38 degrees. That's probably t-shirt and shorts weather to the two fan bases.

AshevilleApp wrote: ↑Mon Jan 06, 2025 2:53 am The high in Frisco today is supposed to be 38 degrees. That's probably t-shirt and shorts weather to the two fan bases.

32 degrees at game time. I'm getting ready to head in for the game festivities.

UNI88 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 04, 2025 1:18 pm

Gil Dobie wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2025 7:47 pm Leaving tomorrow, winter storm warning around KC for Saturday night.

Drive carefully and have a great time Gil!

Sure glad I left the day before the storm in KC. All the interstates were closed by Saturday evening.

dal4018 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 05, 2025 2:35 am Both teams are run-oriented someone is going to have to unleash it's passing game Monday Night for a win!!!!!

QB Miller was allowed to run more against SDSU. That was the key to that game. Miller is a good passer with a great receiver in Bryce Lance. Lance had 3 catches against Colorado with Travis Hunter, and Miller had 277 passing yards against the Buffs.

NDSU

Beat the bobcats last year in Bozeman with a defense decimated by injuries.

We have the best player in the FCS at QB and I don't think the bobcat secondary can cover Lance, Lance is gonna be the MVP

Bison defense is better this year and this will be at a neutral site and we have the big game experience. If we play clean and limit penalties I think this game goes similar to the last one played in Frisco.

Bison 41
bobcats 27

Gil Dobie wrote: ↑Mon Jan 06, 2025 8:16 am

dal4018 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 05, 2025 2:35 am Both teams are run-oriented someone is going to have to unleash it's passing game Monday Night for a win!!!!!

QB Miller was allowed to run more against SDSU. That was the key to that game. Miller is a good passer with a great receiver in Bryce Lance. Lance had 3 catches against Colorado with Travis Hunter, and Miller had 277 passing yards against the Buffs.

Montana St is being shutdown at running the ball Miller has 173 total yds including a HUGE TD RUN for NDSU Lance made IMPOSSIBLE CATCH!!!!!!!! Just to be robbed Bison ahead 21-3 Mellott has 109 total yds Bobcats need to open up pass attack

Pathetic, Bobcats…

Mvemjsunpx wrote: ↑Mon Jan 06, 2025 6:37 pm Pathetic, Bobcats…

They need to come out smoking in the air!!!!!!

Mvemjsunpx wrote: ↑Mon Jan 06, 2025 6:37 pm Pathetic, Bobcats…

Back to back pass plays have awaken Mellott&Company

2 quick touchdowns for MSU, and it's suddenly a game.

21-18 NDSU, late-3Q

Mvemjsunpx wrote: ↑Mon Jan 06, 2025 6:37 pm Pathetic, Bobcats…

Bobcats have awaken via the passing game and great catch by Lance that was a NFL TYPE GRAB!!!!!!!