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2009 Any Given Saturday Poll Preseason Top 25

(First place votes in parenthesis), Points

1. Richmond (59), 2338
2. Appalachian State (20), 2292
3. Montana (5), 2154
4. Villanova (11), 2152
5. Northern Iowa (2), 2011
6. James Madison (1), 1746
7. Southern Illinois, 1703
8. New Hampshire, 1695
9. Weber State, 1692
10. Elon, 1398
11. Wofford, 1326
12. Cal Poly, 1159
13. William & Mary, 1105
14. Central Arkansas, 1034
15. Maine, 841
16. McNeese State, 687
17. South Carolina State, 617
18. Massachusetts, 602
19. Eastern Washington, 538
20. Delaware, 409
21. South Dakota State, 397
22. Furman, 386
23. Texas State, 323
24. Georgia Southern, 311
25. Montana State, 306

Others receiving votes (minimum of 5 votes): Jacksonville State (54), Liberty (48), Colgate (46), Harvard (43), Albany (36), Eastern Kentucky (36), Holy Cross (30), Samford (26), North Dakota State (24), Northern Arizona (24), Grambling State (14), Youngstown State (11), Florida A&M (10), Tennessee-Martin (8), Prairie View A&M (7), Western Illinois (7), Pennsylvania (5), UC Davis (5).

MOST SIGNIFICANT RISE IN 2009: Delaware
MOST SIGNIFICANT FALL IN 2009: Cal Poly


(Votes in parenthesis), Points
Harvard (43), 282
Liberty (48), 280
Jacksonville State (54), 280
Eastern Kentucky (36), 252
Colgate (46), 211
North Dakota State (24), 177
Holy Cross (30), 167
Northern Arizona (24), 123
Samford (26), 106
Albany (36), 97
Youngstown State (11), 66
Florida A&M (10), 59
Grambling State (14), 56
Western Illinois (7), 49
Tennessee-Martin (8), 29
Prairie View A&M (7), 26
UC Davis (5), 24
Pennsylvania (5), 17

Does anyone care? What about he CS Poll?

MarkCCU wrote:Does anyone care? What about he CS Poll?

Since its the most accurate poll in FCS any real football fan would care... regardless of the feelings some may have towards AGS....

Doesn't look very accurate with the way UCA and Cal Poly are ranked.

So what if this poll is posted here. The CS.com poll will get posted over there.

slycat wrote:Doesn't look very accurate with the way UCA and Cal Poly are ranked.

So what if this poll is posted here. The CS.com poll will get posted over there.

My comment goes from track record.... It maybe unlikely, but those two teams could very well end up right around there come seasons end.

UNHWildCats wrote:

slycat wrote:Doesn't look very accurate with the way UCA and Cal Poly are ranked.

So what if this poll is posted here. The CS.com poll will get posted over there.

My comment goes from track record.... It maybe unlikely, but those two teams could very well end up right around there come seasons end.

I know. I expect UCA to finish no higher then 3rd in the SLC.

UNHWildCats wrote:

MarkCCU wrote:Does anyone care? What about he CS Poll?

Since its the most accurate poll in FCS any real football fan would care... regardless of the feelings some may have towards AGS....

Everyone who cares knows that AGS has a poll and can go there to see it. I think you are just stirring the pot by posting the AGS poll here.

It is ok - posting this is fine - we are a good enough site we don't have to delete any mention of another site

Don't like AGS, don't like preseason polls – a perfect confluence of Things I Actively Despise in one tidy package

I see no problem with it being here. Maybe Travis is stirring the pot but I don't go over there too much and I do like most of the posters over there so since this is there work/opinions I'm glad to see it. I agree that preseason polls don't mean diddly but it is something to drive discussion which is Ok in my book. I don't mind if people know that they can get the information they want here and save a trip during the day.

Ursus A. Horribilis wrote:I see no problem with it being here. Maybe Travis is stirring the pot but I don't go over there too much and I do like most of the posters over there so since this is there work/opinions I'm glad to see it. I agree that preseason polls don't mean diddly but it is something to drive discussion which is Ok in my book. I don't mind if people know that they can get the information they want here and save a trip during the day.

I aint stirring the pot.... I like this place.... I have no reason to come here and cause trouble.

As I said... AGS has a nationally recognized poll, a poll the NCAA even recognizes on its website... I hope the forthcoming CS.com poll ends up at the same level as the AGS poll, and when it is released I will post it on AGS.

UNHWildCats wrote:

Ursus A. Horribilis wrote:I see no problem with it being here. Maybe Travis is stirring the pot but I don't go over there too much and I do like most of the posters over there so since this is there work/opinions I'm glad to see it. I agree that preseason polls don't mean diddly but it is something to drive discussion which is Ok in my book. I don't mind if people know that they can get the information they want here and save a trip during the day.

I aint stirring the pot.... I like this place.... I have no reason to come here and cause trouble.

As I said... AGS has a nationally recognized poll, a poll the NCAA even recognizes on its website... I hope the forthcoming CS.com poll ends up at the same level as the AGS poll, and when it is released I will post it on AGS.

Travis, I'm not saying you are. I'm saying even if that was your intent it doesn't matter to most of us anyway. I don't see it as that, I'm glad you posted it here. I see you as an independent and trying to bring the information to others.

Ursus A. Horribilis wrote:

UNHWildCats wrote: I aint stirring the pot.... I like this place.... I have no reason to come here and cause trouble.

As I said... AGS has a nationally recognized poll, a poll the NCAA even recognizes on its website... I hope the forthcoming CS.com poll ends up at the same level as the AGS poll, and when it is released I will post it on AGS.

Travis, I'm not saying you are. I'm saying even if that was your intent it doesn't matter to most of us anyway. I don't see it as that, I'm glad you posted it here. I see you as an independent and trying to bring the information to others.

i know you weren't I just wanted to point out that I wasnt because others thought I was.

UNHWildCats wrote:

Ursus A. Horribilis wrote: Travis, I'm not saying you are. I'm saying even if that was your intent it doesn't matter to most of us anyway. I don't see it as that, I'm glad you posted it here. I see you as an independent and trying to bring the information to others.

i know you weren't I just wanted to point out that I wasnt because others thought I was.

If you say so; I will take your word for it.

BlueHen86 wrote:

UNHWildCats wrote: i know you weren't I just wanted to point out that I wasnt because others thought I was.

If you say so; I will take your word for it.

When have I given any hint of being here to cause trouble?

To me, preseason polls are like wiping before you poop, it just doesn't make sense.

UNHWildCats wrote:

BlueHen86 wrote:
If you say so; I will take your word for it.

When have I given any hint of being here to cause trouble?

This thread.

UNHWildCats wrote:

Ursus A. Horribilis wrote:I see no problem with it being here. Maybe Travis is stirring the pot but I don't go over there too much and I do like most of the posters over there so since this is there work/opinions I'm glad to see it. I agree that preseason polls don't mean diddly but it is something to drive discussion which is Ok in my book. I don't mind if people know that they can get the information they want here and save a trip during the day.

I aint stirring the pot.... I like this place.... I have no reason to come here and cause trouble.

As I said... AGS has a nationally recognized poll, a poll the NCAA even recognizes on its website... I hope the forthcoming CS.com poll ends up at the same level as the AGS poll, and when it is released I will post it on AGS.

Posting the poll here and getting people to talk about it isn't a bad thing. Great conversation and good fun is what makes this site great. Let's talk about this poll and the pro's and con's of where various teams are ranked until we have our own poll to discuss.

BlueHen86 wrote:

UNHWildCats wrote: When have I given any hint of being here to cause trouble?

This thread.

then maybe I should get the benefit of the doubt since I dont have a track record of causing trouble? If this was the first instance that one thought I was trying to cause trouble... perhaps I wasnt.

I didn't vote in the AGS poll, therefore its validity is questionable.

This poll is far more realistic than the Sporting News poll. I think it's right on.

Oh, how neat...

My theory is if you want to post polls, do all of them.

MarkCCU wrote:My theory is if you want to post polls, do all of them.

What's stopping anyone from posting any polls Mark? What am i missing here? Why all the dissension over the posting of the AGS Poll? Hell I used to do it last year over here all the time.

UNHWildCats wrote:

BlueHen86 wrote:
This thread.

then maybe I should get the benefit of the doubt since I dont have a track record of causing trouble? If this was the first instance that one thought I was trying to cause trouble... perhaps I wasnt.

I already said I'll take your word for it Travis. Let it go.

I don't think it's appropriate for the AGS poll to be posted here. I am in the minority on that issue, as most people seem to approve of it. I can accept that, now lets move on.