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A thread to discuss who you would like to see winning the award or who you think will take it at the end of the year. My favorite would be Santos.

Can't have this discussion without mentioning Lex Hilliard. If he comes back from his achilles, he could be a monster this season. Can't forget about Armanti from Appy State either.

Santos has to be the heavy favorite going into the season. Closest second place ever as a Sophomore, Won as a Junior....

Probably either Santos or some guy we have never heard of.

Kevin Richardson has to be in there, somewhere. Edwards will be mentioned, but I don't think this will be his year. Of course, I wouldn't get mad if he won

James Noble should be included on the watch list. Ramses Barden has the talent to make the list, but Cal Poly does not throw the ball enough for him to get serious consideration.

Like Mr. T said, Lex Hilliard could turn in a monster season if he returns to true form

You guys like to throw out names like Santos and Edwards but everyone seems to be forgetting the new comer Rhett Bomar. If he has improved from his freshman year to now watch out. He will make some noise, I guarantee.

it pains me to admit this... NDSU's QB, Walker, will likely make the list and have a good shot at the award

Grizball wrote:it pains me to admit this... NDSU's QB, Walker, will likely make the list and have a good shot at the award

It pains you! Ha, I would think he should make the list but because of the balance of offense that NDSU has Steve won't get the stats to make the list. Another BISON player denied the publicity because his teammates are good right along side him so that makes for a better team!

NDSUFREAK wrote:

Grizball wrote:it pains me to admit this... NDSU's QB, Walker, will likely make the list and have a good shot at the award

It pains you! Ha, I would think he should make the list but because of the balance of offense that NDSU has Steve won't get the stats to make the list. Another BISON player denied the publicity because his teammates are good right along side him so that makes for a better team!

You got that right! Walker would put up bigger numbers if he had to. Like against Ball State when he threw for 451 yards.

It's hard for KRich to win the Payton when he only plays 3 quarters in 7 out of the 11 regular season games. Santos wins the Payton.

App has two candidates and that won't help either of them.

Kevin Richardson deserves serious consideration. His regular season stats last year were impressive despite that fact that he rarely played a full game (or more than half). He shared carries with his freshman backup (Moore) and with Armanti Edwards. Add to that the QB transition in the third game, and App's offense wasn't really hitting full stride until late in the season (despite being successful). Kevin is App's best chance at winning a Payton (this year) because whether people admit it or not, their voting for these awards is "cumulative." The voters will not forget his performance in the play-offs last year. If he has another great year, he's a factor that can't be discounted.

Armanti Edwards is a rising star, but he's non-traditional and that scares a lot of people. He will get a lot of attention, but I don't think this will be his year to win it.

Santos is probably the "favorite" because he's had the attention of the media since his was a freshman. He has a great throwing arm. He's an outstanding QB in a more traditional sense than Armanti.

Eric Sanders - I think the kid from UNI will make some noise this year. If UNI has a great year in a very stron Gateway conference, then this kid deserves some consideration.

It should be Santos to lose, but if struggles and Hillard is healthy - and gets enough plays - he could pick it up. Edwards might be the best player, but I doubt a QB that runs a lot can win it - scrambling yes, as a running back no.

Hillard probably has the best change of the 3, due to position and size, to be drafted into the NFL, but that doesn't really mean much for the Payton Award.

Yosef84 wrote:App has two candidates and that won't help either of them.

Kevin Richardson deserves serious consideration. His regular season stats last year were impressive despite that fact that he rarely played a full game (or more than half). He shared carries with his freshman backup (Moore) and with Armanti Edwards. Add to that the QB transition in the third game, and App's offense wasn't really hitting full stride until late in the season (despite being successful). Kevin is App's best chance at winning a Payton (this year) because whether people admit it or not, their voting for these awards is "cumulative." The voters will not forget his performance in the play-offs last year. If he has another great year, he's a factor that can't be discounted.

Armanti Edwards is a rising star, but he's non-traditional and that scares a lot of people. He will get a lot of attention, but I don't think this will be his year to win it.

Santos is probably the "favorite" because he's had the attention of the media since his was a freshman. He has a great throwing arm. He's an outstanding QB in a more traditional sense than Armanti.

Eric Sanders - I think the kid from UNI will make some noise this year. If UNI has a great year in a very stron Gateway conference, then this kid deserves some consideration.

There's precedence both ways at the Heisman level. Back in the '50s, Paul Hornung won the Heisman playing for a 2-9 Notre Dame team after two Oklahoma candidates got the vote split. A couple of years ago, there was sentiment that this might recur when U$C had two candidates, but that was foiled when Reggie Bush beat out Matt Leinart and other players to win. Some of the deal was a feeling that Leinart "already had his," so it was Bush's time.

So history's probably not an issue here with the candidacy of two Appy guys. Also, I don't believe that EITHER Appy guy has won the Payton before, so that semantic won't be in play.

Superhornet that is a gooding Cock on your Avatar.

I know Ashley played for J-State. I'm a HUGE fan of girls football, so I made Ashley my Avatar since she's the first to score in a D-I game.

No brainer, Josh Johnson of USD.

Lex Hilliard for sure is going to be on the list. He has been building up his agility and speed and strength for a year to come back and get the Grizzly rushing record from Humphrey, and to win the Nat'l Championship. But as mentioned before...Armanti from App. State is darn good!

Santos. Johnson may be the better player in the NFL, but his competition is lacking and doesn't get a chance to prove his skills.