THE BIG EAST CONFERENCE

[93henfan]

He's been great for Nova. Dipshits in the Inquirer already writing stories about what other offers he'll get.

[bandl]

Figures...
Last 3 times Villanova was a #1 or #2 seed I had them going to the final four and winning the whole thing once, and they crapped the bed.
This year I had them losing in the Sweet Sixteen and they go to the final.
Asshole priestfuckers.

[vutomcat]

He's been great for Nova. Dipshits in the Inquirer already writing stories about what other offers he'll get.

I believe he has already turned down Kentucky, the 76ers and Texas. They are dipshits.

[93henfan]

Figures...
Last 3 times Villanova was a #1 or #2 seed I had them going to the final four and winning the whole thing once, and they crapped the bed.
This year I had them losing in the Sweet Sixteen and they go to the final.
Asshole priestfuckers.

Asshole drunken priestfuckers.

[GannonFan]

He's been great for Nova. Dipshits in the Inquirer already writing stories about what other offers he'll get.

He has a job for life at nova, even if he never makes another Final Four - why would you leave that and go to places where you could be fired down the road? Only thing that would make any sense would be to do a gig in the NBA and make a lot more money, ala Brad Stevens, and then get back into college when the inevitable happens. But if he's not that hard up for money (and he makes about $2M plus incentives now) then why even bother doing that? Getting at least $2M a year is pretty good money to be "comfortable" with.

[GannonFan]

I don't need to spin, you're doing a great job yourself. Three years, and only two teams make it as far as the Sweet 16 (no team made the Sweet 16 in 2014, and one made it each last year and this year). That's pretty bad that each year you have, max, one team in the Sweet 16. It's not as if the Big East hasn't gotten teams in or haven't got good seeds - they get plenty of teams in and they get favorable seeds and they've still crashed out. I don't really care how far one team goes - George Mason and VCU both went as far as nova has gone and no one would ever have said those year's how great the CAA was. And I like I said, you and other nova fans, in this thread, talked down the SEC when Kentucky went far and the rest of the conference crashed out just as the rest of the Big East did this year. This year was just like every other year - only 1 (max) Big East team could make it out of the first weekend. The fact that nova made it past the second weekend doesn't change that other inconvenient fact.

Go ahead, spin away.

No need.

SCOREBOARD!!!!

The scoreboard still says the new Big East has only had two (2) teams in three (3) years make it to the Sweet 16 or further, and never two (2) teams or more in the same year.

[YoUDeeMan]

The new Big East is one the top conferences. Period, end of story.

Top half. Yes.

That's pretty accurate.

No one really considers the Big East a top conference...not when compared to the really top conferences.

The Big East should be considered the top of the mid-majors.

[YoUDeeMan]

No need.

SCOREBOARD!!!!

The scoreboard still says the new Big East has only had two (2) teams in three (3) years make it to the Sweet 16 or further, and never two (2) teams or more in the same year.

You know, if people didn't keep stats, then vutomcat might be able to pull off some of the crap he has been trying to sell.

Fortunately, this is a well educated audience that can do research and use rational thinking.

Big East...two teams in three years to make the Sweet 16. No two in the same year. <----- Those facts can't be ignored. The Big East is simply not one of the top major conferences. When the lights come on...the Big East disappears, as a conference, from the Big Boys discussion.

[vutomcat]

Top half. Yes.

That's pretty accurate.

No one really considers the Big East a top conference...not when compared to the really top conferences.

The Big East should be considered the top of the mid-majors.

[bluehenbillk]

Figures...
Last 3 times Villanova was a #1 or #2 seed I had them going to the final four and winning the whole thing once, and they crapped the bed.
This year I had them losing in the Sweet Sixteen and they go to the final.
Asshole priestfuckers.

Asshole drunken priestfuckers.

Amen to that - if anyone thinks Fr. Lazor wasn't drunk that November evening in 2003...

[vutomcat]

No need.

SCOREBOARD!!!!

The scoreboard still says the new Big East has only had two (2) teams in three (3) years make it to the Sweet 16 or further, and never two (2) teams or more in the same year.

Still forgetting to count those OOC wins? And, the run to the FINALS BY NOVA! But, spinners must spin when the results are so unfortunate for their argument. Nova will never make a deep run in the NCAA because the Big East is weak GF? Remember that ? OOOPS!
But, keep comparing this run to George Mason. That's accurate right? OMG MAN! You have compared this NOVA run (which at this point is historic for it's annihilation of it's opponents) to GM's run. That's not even close to being accurate. Your entire argument on the BE is based on so few games it's ridiculous.

I get a kick out of you using NEVER for things the new Big East has or has not done. The frigging conference is only three years old. You keep trying to make your argument though. This year your theory looks very weak.

Best OOC record.
8-4 in the tournament. Damn. Those results just keep getting in your way, don't they?

[GannonFan]

The scoreboard still says the new Big East has only had two (2) teams in three (3) years make it to the Sweet 16 or further, and never two (2) teams or more in the same year.

Still forgetting to count those OOC wins? And, the run to the FINALS BY NOVA! But, spinners must spin when the results are so unfortunate for their argument. Nova will never make a deep run in the NCAA because the Big East is weak GF? Remember that ? OOOPS!
But, keep comparing this run to George Mason. That's accurate right? OMG MAN! You have compared this NOVA run (which at this point is historic for it's annihilation of it's opponents) to GM's run. That's not even close to being accurate. Your entire argument on the BE is based on so few games it's ridiculous.

I get a kick out of you using NEVER for things the new Big East has or has not done. The frigging conference is only three years old. You keep trying to make your argument though. This year your theory looks very weak.

Best OOC record.
8-4 in the tournament. Damn. Those results just keep getting in your way, don't they?

Show me where I said that nova will never make a deep run in the NCAA. Never and improbable are not the same things Einstein, that's why they are two different words.

And remember, you said last year's SEC OOC record in the NCAA tourney was not valid because it was basically one team (Kentucky) providing all the wins? Why did you change your tune this year? Seems a bit hypocritical of you, but then again, it is you. Of course, changing the arguments is something a spinner does, so that does fit you very nicely.

Again, three years in, and we have two teams making it out of the first weekend in the NCAA tourney. It's hard to believe that anyone would be trumpeting that as successful. Pom poms do get in the way of your argument.

[tribe_pride]

The scoreboard still says the new Big East has only had two (2) teams in three (3) years make it to the Sweet 16 or further, and never two (2) teams or more in the same year.

Still forgetting to count those OOC wins? And, the run to the FINALS BY NOVA! But, spinners must spin when the results are so unfortunate for their argument. Nova will never make a deep run in the NCAA because the Big East is weak GF? Remember that ? OOOPS!
But, keep comparing this run to George Mason. That's accurate right? OMG MAN! You have compared this NOVA run (which at this point is historic for it's annihilation of it's opponents) to GM's run. That's not even close to being accurate. Your entire argument on the BE is based on so few games it's ridiculous.

I get a kick out of you using NEVER for things the new Big East has or has not done. The frigging conference is only three years old. You keep trying to make your argument though. This year your theory looks very weak.

Best OOC record.
8-4 in the tournament. Damn. Those results just keep getting in your way, don't they?

Everyone has said that Nova is great but we are talking about the conference as a whole in terms of depth and not one team in the conference. The 8-4 in the tournament is fine except one team (Nova) is 5-0 so the other 4 teams are 3-4 and none of them getting to the round of 16.

Big East is probably the 5th best conference in terms of depth since Big East started and now. ACC easily the best. Big 12 and Big 10 are in the next group. I'd put Pac-12 over Big East for next (even now) because they only have 2 of 12 teams outside the top 100 RPI (and one is at 102) but it is close.

If you look at over the past 3 years (since Big East was formed then), see how many teams have gotten to the Sweet 16 in each year 2014, 2015, 2016:

ACC - 1, 5, 6
Big 12 - 2, 2, 3
Big 10 - 3, 2, 3
Pac 12 - 3, 3, 1
Big East - 0, 1, 1
SEC - 3, 1, 1

You keep referring to Best OOC record. I am not sure where you are getting that because this year:
Big 12 had a .8175 OOC win percentage (with the 3rd hardest OOC schedule)
Pac 12 had a .7708 OOC (with the hardest OOC schedule)
ACC had a .7754 OOC (with the 4th hardest OOC schedule)
Big East had a .7600 OOC (with the 17th hardest OOC schedule)

If Nova wins tonight, don't come on here and brag about how great the Big East depth is because one of the reasons why most of us are keeping on this is because you are being annoying and are not arguing the same thing we are. Once again, we have all acknowledged that Nova is really good (and many of us are rooting for them in spite of you). What we are saying is that behind Nova, it is not with the top couple of conferences yet.

[vutomcat]

Still forgetting to count those OOC wins? And, the run to the FINALS BY NOVA! But, spinners must spin when the results are so unfortunate for their argument. Nova will never make a deep run in the NCAA because the Big East is weak GF? Remember that ? OOOPS!
But, keep comparing this run to George Mason. That's accurate right? OMG MAN! You have compared this NOVA run (which at this point is historic for it's annihilation of it's opponents) to GM's run. That's not even close to being accurate. Your entire argument on the BE is based on so few games it's ridiculous.

I get a kick out of you using NEVER for things the new Big East has or has not done. The frigging conference is only three years old. You keep trying to make your argument though. This year your theory looks very weak.

Best OOC record.
8-4 in the tournament. Damn. Those results just keep getting in your way, don't they?

Everyone has said that Nova is great but we are talking about the conference as a whole in terms of depth and not one team in the conference. The 8-4 in the tournament is fine except one team (Nova) is 5-0 so the other 4 teams are 3-4 and none of them getting to the round of 16.

Big East is probably the 5th best conference in terms of depth since Big East started and now. ACC easily the best. Big 12 and Big 10 are in the next group. I'd put Pac-12 over Big East for next (even now) because they only have 2 of 12 teams outside the top 100 RPI (and one is at 102) but it is close.

If you look at over the past 3 years (since Big East was formed then), see how many teams have gotten to the Sweet 16 in each year 2014, 2015, 2016:

ACC - 1, 5, 6
Big 12 - 2, 2, 3
Big 10 - 3, 2, 3
Pac 12 - 3, 3, 1
Big East - 0, 1, 1
SEC - 3, 1, 1

You keep referring to Best OOC record. I am not sure where you are getting that because this year:
Big 12 had a .8175 OOC win percentage (with the 3rd hardest OOC schedule)
Pac 12 had a .7708 OOC (with the hardest OOC schedule)
ACC had a .7754 OOC (with the 4th hardest OOC schedule)
Big East had a .7600 OOC (with the 17th hardest OOC schedule)

If Nova wins tonight, don't come on here and brag about how great the Big East depth is because one of the reasons why most of us are keeping on this is because you are being annoying and are not arguing the same thing we are. Once again, we have all acknowledged that Nova is really good (and many of us are rooting for them in spite of you). What we are saying is that behind Nova, it is not with the top couple of conferences yet.

You annoy me. I will ABSOLUTELY post tomorrow when/if Nova wins ! And, you are incorrect about "everyone" thinking Nova was great all year. You were one of at least two posters that claimed Nova hadn't won in the ncaa's in the first two years of the new big east because the conference wasn't tough enough. Admit it! You and the cluckers were wrong and you just aren't big enough to admit it

[tribe_pride]

Everyone has said that Nova is great but we are talking about the conference as a whole in terms of depth and not one team in the conference. The 8-4 in the tournament is fine except one team (Nova) is 5-0 so the other 4 teams are 3-4 and none of them getting to the round of 16.

Big East is probably the 5th best conference in terms of depth since Big East started and now. ACC easily the best. Big 12 and Big 10 are in the next group. I'd put Pac-12 over Big East for next (even now) because they only have 2 of 12 teams outside the top 100 RPI (and one is at 102) but it is close.

If you look at over the past 3 years (since Big East was formed then), see how many teams have gotten to the Sweet 16 in each year 2014, 2015, 2016:

ACC - 1, 5, 6
Big 12 - 2, 2, 3
Big 10 - 3, 2, 3
Pac 12 - 3, 3, 1
Big East - 0, 1, 1
SEC - 3, 1, 1

You keep referring to Best OOC record. I am not sure where you are getting that because this year:
Big 12 had a .8175 OOC win percentage (with the 3rd hardest OOC schedule)
Pac 12 had a .7708 OOC (with the hardest OOC schedule)
ACC had a .7754 OOC (with the 4th hardest OOC schedule)
Big East had a .7600 OOC (with the 17th hardest OOC schedule)

If Nova wins tonight, don't come on here and brag about how great the Big East depth is because one of the reasons why most of us are keeping on this is because you are being annoying and are not arguing the same thing we are. Once again, we have all acknowledged that Nova is really good (and many of us are rooting for them in spite of you). What we are saying is that behind Nova, it is not with the top couple of conferences yet.

You annoy me. I will ABSOLUTELY post tomorrow when/if Nova wins ! And, you are incorrect about "everyone" thinking Nova was great all year. You were one of at least two posters that claimed Nova hadn't won in the ncaa's in the first two years of the new big east because the conference wasn't tough enough. Admit it! You and the cluckers were wrong and you just aren't big enough to admit it

Never said you should not post tomorrow. Would hope you would if Nova wins. Maybe even tonight. I said you should not "come on here and brag about how great the Big East depth is"

I said what you said in your thirdto last sentence. I also said that the Big East was improving and that I hoped it was good enough to help Nova do better this year. Here is what I said on March 9

VU - I don't think anyone has argued that the Big East has bad teams except for maybe St. Johns and Depaul. I think everyone agrees that the Big East has consistently had pretty good teams throughout. The problem has been the paucity of top teams in the conference the past few years since getting picked off and split. Nova has been there but without someone else to prepare them for NCAA tournament play, they have fizzled out early over the past few years. Since Xavier was better this year, I think they will get out of the opening weekend for the first time in years (and am happy because I really like them) and will be more prepared for NCAA tournament action this year. But how many more will? Xavier has the opportunity but I don't see anyone else.

I was absolutely right with what I said. Go Nova tonight!

[tribe_pride]

Now on to the game.

Nova needs to keep shooting well and keep UNC off the offensive glass. If they can do that, they have a good chance of winning. UNC may have the best individuals but Nova has an experienced squad and should be able to play well as a team. Probably the better game day coach too.

[tribe_pride]

Wow! Hell of a close to the half and the last 10 seconds or so may have shifted the momentum back to Nova with the great block and then 2 before the half.

I like Nova's strategy on D of taking away the guys down low. If UNC is going to beat them with the 3 by shooting 7-9 from deep in the 2nd half again, so be it. They shot 31.9% from 3 this year so the numbers say that this shouldn't happen again. Watch out for Berry though.

[tribe_pride]

Holy crap. That was one of the best finals ever. Congrats to Nova. They were the best team in the tourney.

[vutomcat]

Big east and villanova vindication
By the way, no doubt who the best team was here. NC played their best game of the year and got beat. NC shot lights out and still lost! Fuc the acc! Big east wins.

[Seahawks08]

I waited for the tournament to end before laying the smackdown on Gannon's candy ass.

How's that SOS now? Must be too weak for Nova to beat any of the big boys in the NCAA tournament.

Jalen Brunson will be the key for Nova going far and not Archi...strike two.

And the best one of all! Nova doesn't play defense good enough against the good teams and are susceptible to penetration. WOW you nailed that one! Strike three.

And then we have clucker running his mouth thinking he knows something about college bball. Big East king of the mid majors? How about you go back to Delaware football where you belong and let the big boys play here.

[vutomcat]

I waited for the tournament to end before laying the smackdown on Gannon's candy ass.

How's that SOS now? Must be too weak for Nova to beat any of the big boys in the NCAA tournament.

Jalen Brunson will be the key for Nova going far and not Archi...strike two.

And the best one of all! Nova doesn't play defense good enough against the good teams and are susceptible to penetration. WOW you nailed that one! Strike three.

And then we have clucker running his mouth thinking he knows something about college bball. Big East king of the mid majors? How about you go back to Delaware football where you belong and let the big boys play here.

Thank you. Finally some realistic posting.

Really just a fantastic year for villanova and the big east . I have been having some fun with the cluckers and poor tribe pride who thinks they believe what they post.

Nova was clearly the best team in the country. Xavier could have easily been in the elite eight . Run away triumph for the Big east.

[vutomcat]

UNC close to Xavier. No better.

[vutomcat]

Wish Gus Johnson would have called this, BIG Smooth!!!!

[DSUrocks07]

Two teams does not a conference make.

[DSUrocks07]

I waited for the tournament to end before laying the smackdown on Gannon's candy ass.

How's that SOS now? Must be too weak for Nova to beat any of the big boys in the NCAA tournament.

Jalen Brunson will be the key for Nova going far and not Archi...strike two.

And the best one of all! Nova doesn't play defense good enough against the good teams and are susceptible to penetration. WOW you nailed that one! Strike three.

And then we have clucker running his mouth thinking he knows something about college bball. Big East king of the mid majors? How about you go back to Delaware football where you belong and let the big boys play here.

Thank you. Finally some realistic posting.

Really just a fantastic year for villanova and the big east . I have been having some fun with the cluckers and poor tribe pride who thinks they believe what they post.

Nova was clearly the best team in the country. Xavier could have easily been in the elite eight . Run away triumph for the Big east.

And if my Aunt had balls...