THE BIG EAST CONFERENCE

[GannonFan]

Citation? You actually need a citation for this? Man, I knew vutomcat was pretty much basketball illiterate but I thought you were more aware. Where have you been the last two years?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_NCAA ... Tournament
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_NCAA ... Tournament

So, just in case you can't navigate links any better than you can recall common knowledge of the past two years, the winning percentage in the NCAA tournament, by conference, for the last two years is as follows:

2014
Conference (number of total bids in parantheses), record, and winning percentage and then number of teams to make Sweet 16:

SEC(3): 12-3 .800 3 teams in Sweet 16
American (4): 9-3 .750 2 teams in Sweet 16
Big 10 (6): 10-6 .625 3 teams in Sweet 16
Pac-12 (6): 8-6 .571 3 teams in Sweet 16
ACC (6): 6-6 .500 1 team in Sweet 16
Mountain West (2): 2-2 .500 1 team in Sweet 16
Big 12 (7): 6-7 .462 2 teams in Sweet 16
Atlantic 10 (6): 4-6 .400 1 team in Sweet 16
Big East (4): 2-4 .333 0 teams in Sweet 16

2015
ACC (6): 17-5 .773 5 teams in Sweet 16 (which is funny because vutomcat had a quote early in the year that the Big East was maybe just only behind the ACC. Good stuff)
Big 10 (7): 12-7 .632 2 teams in Sweet 16
SEC (5): 6-5 .545 1 team in Sweet 16
Pac-12 (4): 8-4 .667 3 teams in Sweet 16
West Coast (2): 3-2 .600 1 team in Sweet 16
Big 12 (7): 5-7 .417 2 teams in Sweet 16
Big East (6): 5-6 .455 1 team in Sweet 16
MVC (2): 3-2 .600 1 team in Sweet 16

And man, why mocking the SEC? The new Big East would love to have done as well as they have. 2014 was just two years ago and the SEC had three (3) teams make the Sweet 16 - Tennessee, Florida, and Kentucky. Remember, that year the Big East had zero (0) teams in the Sweet 16. And then, to boot, Florida and Kentucky were both in the Final Four (for the math impaired *cough* vutomcat *cough* that's two, count them two SEC teams in the Final Four that year). But who really wants that kind of success when you can point to wins that happened before Thanksgiving?

That's lovely that you think 2 teams from the SEC going deep into a tournament makes them a better conference. Keep thinking that when you go to sleep at night. American was top heavy as well. The fact you think that the NCAA tournament is the end all be all for a conference strength shows you really are off your meds.

posted in response on Jan 22nd this year

Ah yes I see you love taking things out of context. Like I said before, you spin with the best of them.

No, it was three (3) teams from the SEC getting into the Sweet 16. That's compared with zero (0) Big East teams making it that far into the tournament. So you see, in math, the number 3 is considered to be a bigger number than the number 0. 3>0. Got it?

And yes, the NCAA tournament is the end all be all for conference strength - outside of conference challenges (ala the Big 10/ACC showdown and the Big 12/SEC one) conferences don't play enough games against each other to be statistically valid. Conferences just can't avoid each other in the NCAA tournament. Oh, I guess they can, though, as the Big East has shown - lose early, and you don't have to play the big guys from other conferences.

[GannonFan]

Hey, since you brought up Providence...

http://www.si.com/college-basketball/20 ... tournament



Now, I seem to remember some discussion on this thread about Providence...

posted December 22nd, 2015

posted in response on December 22nd, 2015

posted on December 22, 2015

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posted on Jan 1st this year

posted on Jan 21st of this year.

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posted on Jan 25th after Providence knocked off nova

posted on Jan 29th of this year

posted in response on Jan 29th

posted on Feb 8th of this year.

Who is this GannonFan guy and why is he so prescient when it comes to college basketball??? (this is when we need an emoji where the smiley face is holding the microphone out and then dropping it in derision - where can I get one of those???)

WHO IS GF? SOME GUY WITH LOW SELF ESTEEM WHO WANTS TO BAD MOUTH A TEAM WHO HAS HAD INJURIES AND A FLU BUG THAT HAS HAMPERED THEIR COMPETITIVENESS.

Not sure what you have against Providence. Weird dude.

Huh? Even from the article...

It should be noted that head coach Ed Cooley said afterward that Dunn and Bullock played under the weather and hadn’t practiced in three days, which certainly explains their performance against the Pirates but not Providence’s overarching downward trend or shooting woes.

I added the bold for the reading impaired.

Providence is a flawed team, and they have been even when you and other rah rahs on here were saying how great they were when they were ranked in the top 10. I told you then that they were flawed, but why believe a person who actually knows a little about basketball? This is another one of your moments, among many on the thread, that really questions if you watch or know any basketball other than nova. Heck, this is right up with your beatdown by clenz over Creighton two years ago when you couldn't stop singing their praises and he kept telling you they were vastly overrated and ready for an early NCAA exit. For you, the hits just keep coming. Let me know when you're ready to genuflect in honor of my vastly superior basketball intellect.

[vutomcat]

WHO IS GF? SOME GUY WITH LOW SELF ESTEEM WHO WANTS TO BAD MOUTH A TEAM WHO HAS HAD INJURIES AND A FLU BUG THAT HAS HAMPERED THEIR COMPETITIVENESS.

Not sure what you have against Providence. Weird dude.

Huh? Even from the article...

It should be noted that head coach Ed Cooley said afterward that Dunn and Bullock played under the weather and hadn’t practiced in three days, which certainly explains their performance against the Pirates but not Providence’s overarching downward trend or shooting woes.

I added the bold for the reading impaired.

Providence is a flawed team, and they have been even when you and other rah rahs on here were saying how great they were when they were ranked in the top 10. I told you then that they were flawed, but why believe a person who actually knows a little about basketball? This is another one of your moments, among many on the thread, that really questions if you watch or know any basketball other than nova. Heck, this is right up with your beatdown by clenz over Creighton two years ago when you couldn't stop singing their praises and he kept telling you they were vastly overrated and ready for an early NCAA exit. For you, the hits just keep coming. Let me know when you're ready to genuflect in honor of my vastly superior basketball intellect.

So now we know who you aspire to be. You think of yourself as CLENZ LITE! ( You really thought Creighton would bow out early too?) Good for you if you did. I don't recall you posting that.

Providence besides being beset with the flu bug also had Bentil hampered for three games with an ankle injury. As I pointed out to you when you started your diatribe on the Friars, they have two future NBA players, one is Bentil and the other is Dunn. Since they played Nova,one played through an ankle injury for three games and then the other suffered for three games with the flu. Let's see how they do once they have both their stars back full strength. They should finish the regular season with three straight wins and be set for the Big East playoffs. Where do you think they will finish?

Nova rolled along again this weekend soundly defeating Marquette on the road on a weekend where it seems every other top 10 team lost on the road. This is a very sound Nova team. Even with a loss they remain #3 in the AP poll and may still yet get that #1 seed in the East. Could be a nightmare for you...

[GannonFan]

Huh? Even from the article...

I added the bold for the reading impaired.

Providence is a flawed team, and they have been even when you and other rah rahs on here were saying how great they were when they were ranked in the top 10. I told you then that they were flawed, but why believe a person who actually knows a little about basketball? This is another one of your moments, among many on the thread, that really questions if you watch or know any basketball other than nova. Heck, this is right up with your beatdown by clenz over Creighton two years ago when you couldn't stop singing their praises and he kept telling you they were vastly overrated and ready for an early NCAA exit. For you, the hits just keep coming. Let me know when you're ready to genuflect in honor of my vastly superior basketball intellect.

So now we know who you aspire to be. You think of yourself as CLENZ LITE! ( You really thought Creighton would bow out early too?) Good for you if you did. I don't recall you posting that.

Providence besides being beset with the flu bug also had Bentil hampered for three games with an ankle injury. As I pointed out to you when you started your diatribe on the Friars, they have two future NBA players, one is Bentil and the other is Dunn. Since they played Nova,one played through an ankle injury for three games and then the other suffered for three games with the flu. Let's see how they do once they have both their stars back full strength. They should finish the regular season with three straight wins and be set for the Big East playoffs. Where do you think they will finish?

Nova rolled along again this weekend soundly defeating Marquette on the road on a weekend where it seems every other top 10 team lost on the road. This is a very sound Nova team. Even with a loss they remain #3 in the AP poll and may still yet get that #1 seed in the East. Could be a nightmare for you...

Dude, the beauty of this one single thread is that we have all of your mistakes and errors in one spot - it's easy to go back and find stuff. I, like many others including clenz, were adamant that Creighton wasn't all that good that year and destined for a fall come tourney time. I said:

Have you ever even seen Creighton before this year or before they played nova? I understand you want to make that loss by nova look as good as possible, but there's no way that Creighton would sweep Wichita St this year, let alone sweep the rest of the MVC.

on Jan 26th, 2014.

Creighton was a paper tiger and it was proven in March.

As for nova, come on, they were playing Marquette. Marquette blows. Other teams in the top 10 who were losing on the road included Oklahoma losing to a surging and dangerous and ranked Texas team, Maryland lost to a Purdue team that is one of the better teams in the Big 10 and ranked, UNC lost to a even higher ranked UVA team, and Arizona had to go to a tough place to play to play a surging Utah team. Man, why do all these other conferences seem to have ranked teams playing other ranked teams every week? You'd think they'd learn from the Big East and limit the quality to one or two good teams so that you don't have to play a tough game every week. Limit it to 2 maybe 3 tough games in conference from December to March like nova does. That seems to work when March comes around.

But for nova, I'd love it if they get that top seed in the East as they can play in Philly should they make it that far. Should really make the atmosphere that much better and it gives them a much better shot to win. Hopefully they can overcome what has become again, a poor preparatory conference schedule for the rigors in March. Heck, maybe they'll get lucky and have the bracket break for them and they get some poor seeds to play later on. It's happened before so it could happen again.

[vutomcat]

So now we know who you aspire to be. You think of yourself as CLENZ LITE! ( You really thought Creighton would bow out early too?) Good for you if you did. I don't recall you posting that.

Providence besides being beset with the flu bug also had Bentil hampered for three games with an ankle injury. As I pointed out to you when you started your diatribe on the Friars, they have two future NBA players, one is Bentil and the other is Dunn. Since they played Nova,one played through an ankle injury for three games and then the other suffered for three games with the flu. Let's see how they do once they have both their stars back full strength. They should finish the regular season with three straight wins and be set for the Big East playoffs. Where do you think they will finish?

Nova rolled along again this weekend soundly defeating Marquette on the road on a weekend where it seems every other top 10 team lost on the road. This is a very sound Nova team. Even with a loss they remain #3 in the AP poll and may still yet get that #1 seed in the East. Could be a nightmare for you...

Dude, the beauty of this one single thread is that we have all of your mistakes and errors in one spot - it's easy to go back and find stuff. I, like many others including clenz, were adamant that Creighton wasn't all that good that year and destined for a fall come tourney time. I said:

Have you ever even seen Creighton before this year or before they played nova? I understand you want to make that loss by nova look as good as possible, but there's no way that Creighton would sweep Wichita St this year, let alone sweep the rest of the MVC.

on Jan 26th, 2014.

Creighton was a paper tiger and it was proven in March.

As for nova, come on, they were playing Marquette. Marquette blows. Other teams in the top 10 who were losing on the road included Oklahoma losing to a surging and dangerous and ranked Texas team, Maryland lost to a Purdue team that is one of the better teams in the Big 10 and ranked, UNC lost to a even higher ranked UVA team, and Arizona had to go to a tough place to play to play a surging Utah team. Man, why do all these other conferences seem to have ranked teams playing other ranked teams every week? You'd think they'd learn from the Big East and limit the quality to one or two good teams so that you don't have to play a tough game every week. Limit it to 2 maybe 3 tough games in conference from December to March like nova does. That seems to work when March comes around.

But for nova, I'd love it if they get that top seed in the East as they can play in Philly should they make it that far. Should really make the atmosphere that much better and it gives them a much better shot to win. Hopefully they can overcome what has become again, a poor preparatory conference schedule for the rigors in March. Heck, maybe they'll get lucky and have the bracket break for them and they get some poor seeds to play later on. It's happened before so it could happen again.

All those team have one thing in common--- they lost. (who did Iowa lose to again?) Keep backing the losers. It fits you. I'll stick with a winner.

[GannonFan]

Dude, the beauty of this one single thread is that we have all of your mistakes and errors in one spot - it's easy to go back and find stuff. I, like many others including clenz, were adamant that Creighton wasn't all that good that year and destined for a fall come tourney time. I said:

on Jan 26th, 2014.

Creighton was a paper tiger and it was proven in March.

As for nova, come on, they were playing Marquette. Marquette blows. Other teams in the top 10 who were losing on the road included Oklahoma losing to a surging and dangerous and ranked Texas team, Maryland lost to a Purdue team that is one of the better teams in the Big 10 and ranked, UNC lost to a even higher ranked UVA team, and Arizona had to go to a tough place to play to play a surging Utah team. Man, why do all these other conferences seem to have ranked teams playing other ranked teams every week? You'd think they'd learn from the Big East and limit the quality to one or two good teams so that you don't have to play a tough game every week. Limit it to 2 maybe 3 tough games in conference from December to March like nova does. That seems to work when March comes around.

But for nova, I'd love it if they get that top seed in the East as they can play in Philly should they make it that far. Should really make the atmosphere that much better and it gives them a much better shot to win. Hopefully they can overcome what has become again, a poor preparatory conference schedule for the rigors in March. Heck, maybe they'll get lucky and have the bracket break for them and they get some poor seeds to play later on. It's happened before so it could happen again.

All those team have one thing in common--- they lost. (who did Iowa lose to again?) Keep backing the losers. It fits you. I'll stick with a winner.

Iowa's in a freefall. Kinda like Providence's but not nearly as long in coming as the Friars (Providence is now #57 in kenpom - Iowa is #14). It's not the right time of year for a team to be losing like this so it obviously portends poorly for Iowa.

Backing the losers and fitting for me? That's a truly odd comment from a guy who has been proven wrong time and time again for about 40 pages so far in this thread. I'll admit it, though, all this losing in arguments that you've been doing for the past 2+ years has not dimmed your enthusiasm. Oh, and my use of the word "dim" in a sentence regarding you was not unintentional.

[vutomcat]

And there goes Nova football not going to the FBS anytime in the near future.

Uh, that ship sailed well before this.

Look for whenever Talley retires for the football program to be retired with him.

OOPS most prescient one. Wrong on this one. Strange post from a supposed Nova fan.



Assistant Head Coach Mark Ferrante Named As Villanova Successor

Andy Talley to Retire Following the 2016 Season

VILLANOVA, PA. – Villanova University Director of Athletics Mark Jackson today announced that head football coach Andy Talley will retire following the 2016 season. Talley will stay at Villanova through 2017 in an administrative role, serving as Special Assistant to the Athletic Director.

Jackson announced that beginning with the 2017 season, Mark Ferrante, longtime Wildcats assistant coach, will succeed Talley and become Villanova’s 30th head coach.

“Although the end of an unprecedented era of success for Villanova football is upon us with Andy’s retirement after next season, this is an opportunity to celebrate all that he has built both on and off the field, said Villanova University President Reverend Peter M. Donohue, OSA. “We look forward to one last exciting season under his leadership. Few in this industry ever get to leave the profession under their own terms having accomplished so much and we cannot be more thankful for all that Andy has done for Villanova University.”

[vutomcat]

Way to early to do this but.......I'm doing it anyway. Big East has 10 teams. I predict the following five will make it to the tourney VU TOMCAT 12/8/2014

Georgetown
Butler
Seton Hall
Villanova
Providence

Should be good for a laugh come March.

Now here's a post worth noting. This guy correctly predicted 4 of 5 tournament teams from the BIg East in December! Quite a feat.

GF- You may recall you questioned whether Providence would be in multiple occasions after my moment of clairvoyance. They were a 6 seed. More of your trashing of Providence. Just weird dude.

Now, let's talk about your bragging about correctly predicting that Providence is a weak team this year. Yes, that was the term you used. Let's look at this and see if you were right.

There are over 300 teams in the country. Let's place them in six categories. Elite, Very strong, strong, average, weak and very weak.

Elite - top 10-15 (like Nova)
Very strong- 15-80 ( like a good bit of the Big East including Providence)
Strong- 80-125 ( like Alabama, Mississippi, Ok State, Temple (you know that team you correctly predicted Nova would beat and boasted about it later? )
Average- 125-200- (like Penn State, Wake Forest, Illinois, Minnesoata, Missouri, Auburn, Depaul )
Weak- 200-250 ( I looked for Providence in the Ken Pom teams here- couldn't find them. perhaps it is a misprint.
Very weak- 250-300 Like Delaware


So, here we are. Your greatest achievement on this thread. Nice job! I am embarrassed for you again. You only missed by a few hundred teams. Were you drinking again GF?

Go get your shinebox!

[vutomcat]

Way to early to do this but.......I'm doing it anyway. Big East has 10 teams. I predict the following five will make it to the tourney VU TOMCAT 12/8/2014

Georgetown
Butler
Seton Hall
Villanova
Providence

Should be good for a laugh come March.

Now here's a post worth noting. This guy correctly predicted 4 of 5 tournament teams from the BIg East in December! Quite a feat.

GF- You may recall you questioned whether Providence would be in multiple occasions after my moment of clairvoyance. They were a 6 seed. More of your trashing of Providence. Just weird dude.

Now, let's talk about your bragging about correctly predicting that Providence is a weak team this year. Yes, that was the term you used. Let's analyze this and see if you were right.

There are over 300 teams in the country. Let's place them in six categories. Elite, Very strong, strong, average, weak and very weak.

Elite - top 10-15 (like Nova)
Very strong- 15-80 ( like a good bit of the Big East including Providence)
Strong- 80-125 ( like Alabama, Mississippi, Ok State, Temple (you know that team you correctly predicted Nova would beat and boasted about it later? )
Average- 125-200- (like Penn State, Wake Forest, Illinois, Minnesoata, Missouri, Auburn, Depaul ) that's an awful lot of teams from those conferences you say play top 10 teams every week)
Weak- 200-250 ( I looked for Providence in the Ken Pom teams here- couldn't find them. perhaps it is a misprint.
Very weak- 250-300 Like Delaware


So, here we are. Your greatest achievement on this thread. Nice job! I am embarrassed for you again. You only missed by a few hundred teams. Were you drinking again GF?

Go get your shinebox!

[GannonFan]

Uh, that ship sailed well before this.

Look for whenever Talley retires for the football program to be retired with him.

OOPS most prescient one. Wrong on this one. Strange post from a supposed Nova fan.



Assistant Head Coach Mark Ferrante Named As Villanova Successor

Andy Talley to Retire Following the 2016 Season

VILLANOVA, PA. – Villanova University Director of Athletics Mark Jackson today announced that head football coach Andy Talley will retire following the 2016 season. Talley will stay at Villanova through 2017 in an administrative role, serving as Special Assistant to the Athletic Director.

Jackson announced that beginning with the 2017 season, Mark Ferrante, longtime Wildcats assistant coach, will succeed Talley and become Villanova’s 30th head coach.

“Although the end of an unprecedented era of success for Villanova football is upon us with Andy’s retirement after next season, this is an opportunity to celebrate all that he has built both on and off the field, said Villanova University President Reverend Peter M. Donohue, OSA. “We look forward to one last exciting season under his leadership. Few in this industry ever get to leave the profession under their own terms having accomplished so much and we cannot be more thankful for all that Andy has done for Villanova University.”

Give it time. They have to move to the Patriot League first. Death spirals are never quick.

[GannonFan]

Way to early to do this but.......I'm doing it anyway. Big East has 10 teams. I predict the following five will make it to the tourney VU TOMCAT 12/8/2014

Georgetown
Butler
Seton Hall
Villanova
Providence

Should be good for a laugh come March.

Now here's a post worth noting. This guy correctly predicted 4 of 5 tournament teams from the BIg East in December! Quite a feat.

GF- You may recall you questioned whether Providence would be in multiple occasions after my moment of clairvoyance. They were a 6 seed. More of your trashing of Providence. Just weird dude.

Now, let's talk about your bragging about correctly predicting that Providence is a weak team this year. Yes, that was the term you used. Let's look at this and see if you were right.

There are over 300 teams in the country. Let's place them in six categories. Elite, Very strong, strong, average, weak and very weak.

Elite - top 10-15 (like Nova)
Very strong- 15-80 ( like a good bit of the Big East including Providence)
Strong- 80-125 ( like Alabama, Mississippi, Ok State, Temple (you know that team you correctly predicted Nova would beat and boasted about it later? )
Average- 125-200- (like Penn State, Wake Forest, Illinois, Minnesoata, Missouri, Auburn, Depaul )
Weak- 200-250 ( I looked for Providence in the Ken Pom teams here- couldn't find them. perhaps it is a misprint.
Very weak- 250-300 Like Delaware


So, here we are. Your greatest achievement on this thread. Nice job! I am embarrassed for you again. You only missed by a few hundred teams. Were you drinking again GF?

Go get your shinebox!

Wow, just when I thought we've reached the bottom of your lack of basketball knowledge you break out the shovel and you go even deeper. Seriously, that had to be one of the weakest rebuttals I've seen in a long time on these boards. You just compared Providence to the likes of Delaware and heck, anyone else in DI and you felt it was a legitimate argument. I feel bad, it's like I'm smacking around a little kid or, in your case, an old man who has clearly lost a good bit of his reasoning power (seriously, "shinebox"? You're using 1950's era putdowns now?). You just don't get it, you're a myopic rah rah fanboy who just waves a pom pom and is happy his team does well. That's great, just stay there. You don't have a good appreciation for basketball nor an ability to analytically look at the game. You said Providence was a potential Final Four team and were touting them when they were in the top 10, and I said at the time watch out they're going to fall and fall hard and that's exactly what happened. Just like in the past two years I said nova was not being prepared properly for the NCAA tournament and would suffer as a result (you waved some pom poms and sang the fight song while saying they were destined for deep runs) and I was proven right again both times. You see, I'm the type of fan who can see the flaws (weak conference at the top where it matters) and want for the flaws to get better - you're the type who just thinks everything is, to use a word from your generation, dandy. Go be a fanboy and leave the real basketball discussion to those who know of what they speak.

[GannonFan]

Way to early to do this but.......I'm doing it anyway. Big East has 10 teams. I predict the following five will make it to the tourney VU TOMCAT 12/8/2014

Georgetown
Butler
Seton Hall
Villanova
Providence

Should be good for a laugh come March.

Now here's a post worth noting. This guy correctly predicted 4 of 5 tournament teams from the BIg East in December! Quite a feat.

GF- You may recall you questioned whether Providence would be in multiple occasions after my moment of clairvoyance. They were a 6 seed. More of your trashing of Providence. Just weird dude.

Well, once again you're making stuff up. This is what I actually said (the beauty of being able to click a few buttons):

Xavier and Providence may end up being tourney teams, but they're ...not really threats to win a game, let alone two.

posted by GannonFan on January 26th, 2014

Tell me again, exactly how many games did Xavier and Providence win in the 2014 tournament? If it's zero then man, once again GannonFan is on the money. Come on, you owe us an answer, how many games did Xavier and Providence win in the 2014 tourney??????

[vutomcat]

Now here's a post worth noting. This guy correctly predicted 4 of 5 tournament teams from the BIg East in December! Quite a feat.

GF- You may recall you questioned whether Providence would be in multiple occasions after my moment of clairvoyance. They were a 6 seed. More of your trashing of Providence. Just weird dude.

Well, once again you're making stuff up. This is what I actually said (the beauty of being able to click a few buttons):

Xavier and Providence may end up being tourney teams, but they're ...not really threats to win a game, let alone two.

posted by GannonFan on January 26th, 2014

Tell me again, exactly how many games did Xavier and Providence win in the 2014 tournament? If it's zero then man, once again GannonFan is on the money. Come on, you owe us an answer, how many games did Xavier and Providence win in the 2014 tourney??????

I like the way this thread is trending. Take yesterday for instance when you spoke glowingly on how great Texas is. A SURGING and DANGEROUS team! Really now! Within 10 hours after your glowing analysis about them they lost by 30 points. You are so PRESCIENT!

This is going a bad way for you and is about to get worse. You are a downright fraud and you know it.

[vutomcat]

OOPS most prescient one. Wrong on this one. Strange post from a supposed Nova fan.



Assistant Head Coach Mark Ferrante Named As Villanova Successor

Andy Talley to Retire Following the 2016 Season

VILLANOVA, PA. – Villanova University Director of Athletics Mark Jackson today announced that head football coach Andy Talley will retire following the 2016 season. Talley will stay at Villanova through 2017 in an administrative role, serving as Special Assistant to the Athletic Director.

Jackson announced that beginning with the 2017 season, Mark Ferrante, longtime Wildcats assistant coach, will succeed Talley and become Villanova’s 30th head coach.

“Although the end of an unprecedented era of success for Villanova football is upon us with Andy’s retirement after next season, this is an opportunity to celebrate all that he has built both on and off the field, said Villanova University President Reverend Peter M. Donohue, OSA. “We look forward to one last exciting season under his leadership. Few in this industry ever get to leave the profession under their own terms having accomplished so much and we cannot be more thankful for all that Andy has done for Villanova University.”

Give it time. They have to move to the Patriot League first. Death spirals are never quick.

Nope. You were wrong again GF. or should you want to come out of the closet now? It's time. We all know.

[GannonFan]

Well, once again you're making stuff up. This is what I actually said (the beauty of being able to click a few buttons):

posted by GannonFan on January 26th, 2014

Tell me again, exactly how many games did Xavier and Providence win in the 2014 tournament? If it's zero then man, once again GannonFan is on the money. Come on, you owe us an answer, how many games did Xavier and Providence win in the 2014 tourney??????

I like the way this thread is trending. Take yesterday for instance when you spoke glowingly on how great Texas is. A SURGING and DANGEROUS team! Really now! Within 10 hours after your glowing analysis about them they lost by 30 points. You are so PRESCIENT!

This is going a bad way for you and is about to get worse. You are a downright fraud and you know it.

Well, they did have to play a top team. Funny how those other conferences work, they seem to play top teams week in and week out. When does nova play Xavier again??? Isn't a fraud someone who is wrong? Again, tell me how 2014 and 2015 worked out?

Oh, and no more posts from you until you man up and answer the question - how many games did Xavier and Providence win in the 2014 tourney? Come on, I think even you can handle the math in this one. Maybe.

[vutomcat]

I like the way this thread is trending. Take yesterday for instance when you spoke glowingly on how great Texas is. A SURGING and DANGEROUS team! Really now! Within 10 hours after your glowing analysis about them they lost by 30 points. You are so PRESCIENT!

This is going a bad way for you and is about to get worse. You are a downright fraud and you know it.

Well, they did have to play a top team. Funny how those other conferences work, they seem to play top teams week in and week out. When does nova play Xavier again??? Isn't a fraud someone who is wrong? Again, tell me how 2014 and 2015 worked out?

Oh, and no more posts from you until you man up and answer the question - how many games did Xavier and Providence win in the 2014 tourney? Come on, I think even you can handle the math in this one. Maybe.

I will post as I please. Certainly not as you direct.

Fraud- a person who is not what he or she pretends to be : impostor

Say, for instance someone who claims to root for Villanova. Who went to Delaware and posts liberally on this thread. Who, everyone knows by this thread, has a deep seated hatred for Nova which goes back a long way. Like that kind of fraud. You know. Come on out. Unload the truth. It will be a good unburdening for you.

[GannonFan]

Well, they did have to play a top team. Funny how those other conferences work, they seem to play top teams week in and week out. When does nova play Xavier again??? Isn't a fraud someone who is wrong? Again, tell me how 2014 and 2015 worked out?

Oh, and no more posts from you until you man up and answer the question - how many games did Xavier and Providence win in the 2014 tourney? Come on, I think even you can handle the math in this one. Maybe.

I will post as I please. Certainly not as you direct.

Fraud- a person who is not what he or she pretends to be : impostor

Say, for instance someone who claims to root for Villanova. Who went to Delaware and posts liberally on this thread. Who, everyone knows by this thread, has a deep seated hatred for Nova which goes back a long way. Like that kind of fraud. You know. Come on out. Unload the truth. It will be a good unburdening for you.

I know, it must be hard adding up all those wins. Take your time, I'll keep checking in to see how you're doing.

How far back does my hatred go? Was I hating nova when I had the Daily Times front page "Nova Wins" on my wall growing up as a kid due to some deep hatred? When I was throwing streamers on the floor at Big 5 games was I hating? I'm not sure you even understand Philly fans - admit it, you're from outside the area.

How's the math coming, have the answer yet? We're waiting.

[GannonFan]

Good article on nova and their chances (WARNING for fanboys, this article makes references to past NCAA tourney bombouts and 5 years of no Sweet 16 despite playing as a top seed WARNING).

http://www.campusrush.com/jay-wright-vi ... 24023.html

Strange though, an entire article about nova and their chances and not a single mention of Arci. My my, why is that? Surely this guy must be a hater too.

For me, the worry is the same as it's been the past two years - I don't think nova plays defense well enough against the top teams and is susceptible to penetration because of that (great defensive rating, but mostly in conference games and the Big East is not loaded with good offenses) and I don't think they score enough in big games to keep up with teams that start scoring more against them. Last year was a fluke, though, being a #1 seed and not making the Sweet 16 is not all that common - I think they get by the first weekend this year. But after that, I'm not sure home court advantage can overcome the deficiencies. I know Jay likes to say that the 3pt percentage being down is a good thing (jacked up a lot early in the season, and the 2pt percentage is way up), but then you see a game like that Xavier game last week and again the percentage is terrible in a big game that matters. I don't think Hart can carry the offensive load by himself in a tourney game and win - the other parts of the offense have to show up in big games and to date, they haven't.

[vutomcat]

I will post as I please. Certainly not as you direct.

Fraud- a person who is not what he or she pretends to be : impostor

Say, for instance someone who claims to root for Villanova. Who went to Delaware and posts liberally on this thread. Who, everyone knows by this thread, has a deep seated hatred for Nova which goes back a long way. Like that kind of fraud. You know. Come on out. Unload the truth. It will be a good unburdening for you.

I know, it must be hard adding up all those wins. Take your time, I'll keep checking in to see how you're doing.

How far back does my hatred go? Was I hating nova when I had the Daily Times front page "Nova Wins" on my wall growing up as a kid due to some deep hatred? When I was throwing streamers on the floor at Big 5 games was I hating? I'm not sure you even understand Philly fans - admit it, you're from outside the area.

How's the math coming, have the answer yet? We're waiting.

I would trace it back to around the late 80's. Much like a lot of Philly fans, you have not forgiven Nova for becoming an elite team and separating itself from the rest of the Big Five. They moved from the beloved Palestra onto their on campus facility and you never forgave them. I was a little worried at that time as well, but it turned into the right move. There was no way Nova would have ever competed successfully in the Big East long term showing recruits a facility on some other schools campus. The only down side to the move was that it created a lot of animosity from the other teams in Philly. We have to put up with bitter Big 5 fans like yourself that can't see the forest for the trees. You would have had Nova continue to play in the Palestra and become a lower level member of the Big East. Didn't happen thankfully. I'm right. I know it. No need for you to admit it. If you want to stay in the closet, go ahead. But remember, anyone that reads this thread knows your hatred is real. I have some good friends in South Philly that can't talk about the Big Five without mentioning it. You are one of those guys. Doesn't make you a bad guy. Now, posing like you still root for Nova does. Come on out of the closet man. It will feel liberating.

No more streamers for little GF to throw onto the Palestra.

Fraud- a person who is not what he or she pretends to be : impostor

I have lived and rooted in the Philadelphia area almost my entire life and I have suffered much like you. The Sixers are unwatchable. The Eagles are in total disarray. The Phillies are rebuilding at best. Maybe the Flyers have some hope. It seems like Hextall has some vision and the "Ghost" seems to have given them a shot in the arm. They might even make the playoffs.

Sorry to disappoint. But, you are used to it. Go back to the Hens forum clucker.

[89Hen]

Nova for becoming an elite team

Not elite.

[GannonFan]

I know, it must be hard adding up all those wins. Take your time, I'll keep checking in to see how you're doing.

How far back does my hatred go? Was I hating nova when I had the Daily Times front page "Nova Wins" on my wall growing up as a kid due to some deep hatred? When I was throwing streamers on the floor at Big 5 games was I hating? I'm not sure you even understand Philly fans - admit it, you're from outside the area.

How's the math coming, have the answer yet? We're waiting.

I would trace it back to around the late 80's. Much like a lot of Philly fans, you have not forgiven Nova for becoming an elite team and separating itself from the rest of the Big Five. They moved from the beloved Palestra onto their on campus facility and you never forgave them. I was a little worried at that time as well, but it turned into the right move. There was no way Nova would have ever competed successfully in the Big East long term showing recruits a facility on some other schools campus. The only down side to the move was that it created a lot of animosity from the other teams in Philly. We have to put up with bitter Big 5 fans like yourself that can't see the forest for the trees. You would have had Nova continue to play in the Palestra and become a lower level member of the Big East. Didn't happen thankfully. I'm right. I know it. No need for you to admit it. If you want to stay in the closet, go ahead. But remember, anyone that reads this thread knows your hatred is real. I have some good friends in South Philly that can't talk about the Big Five without mentioning it. You are one of those guys. Doesn't make you a bad guy. Now, posing like you still root for Nova does. Come on out of the closet man. It will feel liberating.

No more streamers for little GF to throw onto the Palestra.

Fraud- a person who is not what he or she pretends to be : impostor

I have lived and rooted in the Philadelphia area almost my entire life and I have suffered much like you. The Sixers are unwatchable. The Eagles are in total disarray. The Phillies are rebuilding at best. Maybe the Flyers have some hope. It seems like Hextall has some vision and the "Ghost" seems to have given them a shot in the arm. They might even make the playoffs.

Sorry to disappoint. But, you are used to it. Go back to the Hens forum clucker.

So all those trips to MSG to watch nova in the Big East tourney in the late 90's was just me pretending not to hate them?

I have some good friends in South Philly that can't talk about the Big Five without mentioning it. You are one of those guys.

That's funny, in this entire thread, I've mentioned the Big Five multiple times and not once did I ever mention something about nova leaving it in the late 80's, yet here you are saying that I have (like you said, you can't have "those guys" talk about the Big 5 without mentioning it). I think we're going to need proof - let's see the quote where I mentioned it.

Fact is, I'm not an old school Big Five guy like you apparently know - I grew up with the Big 5 in the 80's and 90's so I was more than fine with it evolving to where it is now. I've never been to LaSalle's home gym and probably never will (despite the wife growing up in Olney) because I tend to watch the successful Big 5 teams. The Maloney and Allen Penn teams in the early 90's (I grew up and was friends with the center on that team, Eric Moore), the Temple teams for really the past three decades (Howie Evans and Macon early on, Eddie Jones and Aaron McKie later, Pepe Sanchez and many others), the great St Joe's team with Nelson and West (you must've hated that year), and heck, even the LaSalle teams with Lionel Simmons and then a little bit later the Randy Woods teams. And of course, nova through the years as well, including the painful Lappas years (which are years I don't want to repeat - hence my dissatisfaction with the past 5 years of mediocre NCAA tourney play by the Cats). I watch them all and am fans of them all. I didn't attend Delaware until well after I was a Big 5 fan and I didn't pick my college based on the basketball team.

What you mistake for hatred is a critical appraisal of the team. Like I said, I know lots of guys like you, nova alums who can't say anything bad or see anything bad about the basketball team. They were shocked as well over the past few years as nova has suffered from the Big East exodus and performed poorly in March. They too can't see the forest through the trees and see that nova's pulling all the weight in the new conference. It's okay to admit it, it happened regardless if you admit it or not. It's a tough spot for nova and their making the best they can of it. Barring a collapse in the Big East tourney, nova's a one seed again and mathematically it's very unlikely they'll lose again in the tourney before the Sweet Sixteen. I'm just worried that even with the home court advantage they'll crash out of the tourney for the same reasons they have before. Adding another year of March failure to the 5 we've already seen isn't something to look forward to.

[vutomcat]

Nova for becoming an elite team

Not elite.

Here we go again. Ok, so a perennial power. Is that ok?

[89Hen]

Not elite.

Here we go again. Ok, so a perennial power. Is that ok?

Not really

[vutomcat]

Elite is really accurate. I'll stick with that.

[89Hen]

Elite is really accurate. I'll stick with that.

Bully for you. Doesn't make it so.