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In the Big Sky, only top 6 of the 9 teams make it. First Round games are played at the 3 and 4 seed home arenas. Semi-finals and finals are at the Regular Season Champs' home.

Schedule is:

Saturday, March 6

Quarterfinals

No. 6 seed at No. 3 seed

No. 5 seed at No. 4 seed

Tuesday, March 9

Semifinals

at regular-season champion

No. 2 seed vs. Highest Remaining Seed

No. 1 seed vs. Lowest Remaining Seed

Wednesday, March 10

Championship

at Regular-Season Champion

The A-10 has 14 teams...the top ten make the tourney, which is held on a neutral site (Atlantic City)...The tourney is March 12 - 14...

Right now, here's the standing, with the cut line...

Richmond
Temple
Charlotte
Xavier
Saint Louis
Rhode Island
Dayton
Duquesne
Massachusetts
George Washington
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La Salle
St. Bonaventure
Saint Joseph's
Fordham

Looks like Fordham is really the only one eliminated from top 10. LaSalle, GW, St. Bonnies and St. Joes have 3 wins each.

dbackjon wrote:Looks like Fordham is really the only one eliminated from top 10. LaSalle, GW, St. Bonnies and St. Joes have 3 wins each.

True...I don't know what the tie-breakers are...head to head competition is most likely going to get one of those four in...

Actually, top 12 make it in the a10.

We've got a new format this year. Top 4 get a bye to Atlantic City. 5-12 play at the higher seed's home court on Tues March 9. Winners advance to AC and play the top seeds - quarters Friday, Semis Sat and the championship game Sunday @ 1pm on CBS.

The SoCon Men's bracket:



Notice the note about Davidson at the bottom:

** - Regardless of seeding, Davidson will play in the Saturday afternoon 2:00 p.m. game if the Wildcats
advance to the quarterfinals. Their opening round game Friday would also be scheduled for 2:00 p.m.
The rest of the bracket will remain intact.

Apparently it's because Golden State and Curry are in town to play the Bobcats Saturday night. Everything about the Southern Conference is completely bush league.

Also the SoCon wants to avoid the possibility of Davidson playing Friday night then Saturday afternoon thus creating "an unfair advantage" to their opponents.

According to the likely scenarios, this would force App from the 2:00 pm slot on Saturday to the 9:15 pm slot and thus a different Session, which would require a different ticket, which is bush league all because Davidson fans want to see Curry.

ur2K wrote:Actually, top 12 make it in the a10.

We've got a new format this year. Top 4 get a bye to Atlantic City. 5-12 play at the higher seed's home court on Tues March 9. Winners advance to AC and play the top seeds - quarters Friday, Semis Sat and the championship game Sunday @ 1pm on CBS.

Damn changes...

Thanks for the update.....

Stupid on thte SoCon part...

Things will be different for the Big West this year due to the presence of a 9th team (UC Davis). The top 8 will play vice EVERYONE in the recent past.

Seeds 1 and 2 -- 2 Byes
Seeds 3 and 4 -- 1 Bye

Seed 8 vs. Seed 5
Seed 7 vs. Seed 6

Best Remaining Seed vs. Seed 4
Lower Remaining Seed vs. Seed 3

Best Remaining Seed vs. Seed 2
Lower Remaining Seed vs. Seed 1

Final (Televised)

UC Santa Barbara (9-3) and UOP (8-3) look to be pretty solid for the top 2 spots, though the order may change before March. Long Beach State, UC Davis, and Cow Poly are currently tied in slots 4-6 at 6-6 and #3 UC Foolerton is 7-5, so those look for a wild finish. CS Northridge, UC Irvine, and UC Riverside will fight over the last two spots, but who knows? This season looks like the ultimate in parity....

Incidentally, this could be the first season in ages where EVERYONE has double-digit overall wins. The three worst teams in conference in terms of overall wins all have 9.

Things are a bit different on the girls' side. CS Northridge and UOP are tied for a DISTANT 8th at 2-9 and stand in danger of missing the conference tournament. UOP is up a game head-to-head; the two teams face off 6 MAR to close out the season. A UOP win would clearly seal the bid should there be a tie; a split opens up a can of worms. All spots over this last one seem up for grabs.

In the SWAC the top 8 make the tourney which is being held in Shreveport for the first time. Southern (barring any kind of amazing run) and Alcorn will miss the tourney. It'll be Southern's first time missing the conference tourney. Hard to believe they were league champs wire to wire 4 years ago.

Big South has top eight teams advance to tourney. Top four seeds host quarterfinal games on campus on Tuesday, March 2. #1 seed overall gets right to host semifinals on Thursday, March 4. Final is held, on campus, of highest remaining seed on Saturday, March 6.

The Big South womens tourney is held 100% at High Point University over a three day period Friday-Sunday, March 12-14, which makes a heckuva lot more sense IMHO.

Missouri Valley Conference:

All 10 teams make the tournament, which is held at a neutral site (Scottrade Center in St. Louis) and referred to as "Arch Madness".

Thursday night:
game 1: #8 seed vs. #9 seed
game 2: #7 seed vs. #10 seed

Friday:
game 3: #1 seed vs. game 1 winner
game 4: #4 seed vs. #5 seed
game 5: #2 seed vs. game 2 winner
game 6: #3 seed vs. #6 seed

Saturday:
game 7: game 3 winner vs. game 4 winner
game 8: game 5 winner vs. game 6 winner

Sunday:
Championship game

http://www.archmadness.com/

All Games except the finals at Hartford's Chase Arena
Thursday, March 4
Session I :: Women's and Men's 1st Round Games
WBB: #8 vs. #9 6 p.m.
AmericaEast.TV
MBB: #8 vs. #9 8:30 p.m.*
AmericaEast.TV

Friday, March 5
Session II :: Women's Quarterfinals
WBB: Quarterfinal #1
12 p.m.
AmericaEast.TV
WBB: Quarterfinal #2
2:15 p.m.*
AmericaEast.TV

Session III :: Women's Quarterfinals
WBB: Quarterfinal #3
6 p.m.
AmericaEast.TV
WBB: Quarterfinal #4
8:15 p.m.*
AmericaEast.TV

Saturday, March 6
Session IV :: Men's Quarterfinals
MBB: Quarterfinal #1
12 p.m. AmericaEast.TV
MBB: Quarterfinal #2 2:15 p.m.* AmericaEast.TV

Session V :: Men's Quarterfinals
MBB: Quarterfinal #3 6 p.m.
AmericaEast.TV
MBB: Quarterfinal #4 8:15 p.m.*
AmericaEast.TV

Sunday, March 7
Session VI :: Women's Semifinals
WBB Semifinal #1 11 a.m.
RSN
WBB Semifinal #2 1:30 p.m.
RSN

Session VII :: Men's Semifinals
MBB Semifinal #1 5 p.m.
RSN
MBB Semifinal #2 7:30 p.m.
RSN

2010 Championship Finals :: At Sites Of Highest Remaining Seeds
Saturday, March 13
Men's Basketball Championship Game 12 noon ESPN2
Women's Basketball Championship Game 8 p.m. CSN

Colonial Athletic Association

2010 CAA MEN'S and WOMEN'S TOURNAMENT SCHEDULE

FIRST ROUND GAMES

#8 seed vs. #9 seed
#5 seed vs. #12 seed
#7 seed vs. #10 seed
#6 seed vs. #11 seed

QUARTERFINAL GAMES

#1 seed vs. #8/#9 winner
#4 seed vs. #5/#12 winner
#2 seed vs. #7/#10 winner
#3 seed vs. #6/#11 winner

SEMIFINAL GAMES

#1/#8/#9 winner vs. #4/#5/#12 winner
#2/#7/#10 winner vs. #3/#6/#11 winner

CHAMPIONSHIP GAME

JayJ79 wrote:Missouri Valley Conference:

All 10 teams make the tournament, which is held at a neutral site (Scottrade Center in St. Louis) and referred to as "Arch Madness".

Thursday night:
game 1: #8 seed vs. #9 seed
game 2: #7 seed vs. #10 seed

Friday:
game 3: #1 seed vs. game 1 winner
game 4: #4 seed vs. #5 seed
game 5: #2 seed vs. game 2 winner
game 6: #3 seed vs. #6 seed

Saturday:
game 7: game 3 winner vs. game 4 winner
game 8: game 5 winner vs. game 6 winner

Sunday:
Championship game

http://www.archmadness.com/

And the Championship is televised nationally on CBS.

FANTASTIC conference tourney

One of the better moves of the MVC was ditching the on campus format and going to the neutral site in an NBA type arena.

You heading down, Jay? Wouldn't mind meeting up with you, clenz, and TBH for a drink.

OSBF wrote:

JayJ79 wrote:Missouri Valley Conference:

All 10 teams make the tournament, which is held at a neutral site (Scottrade Center in St. Louis) and referred to as "Arch Madness".

Thursday night:
game 1: #8 seed vs. #9 seed
game 2: #7 seed vs. #10 seed

Friday:
game 3: #1 seed vs. game 1 winner
game 4: #4 seed vs. #5 seed
game 5: #2 seed vs. game 2 winner
game 6: #3 seed vs. #6 seed

Saturday:
game 7: game 3 winner vs. game 4 winner
game 8: game 5 winner vs. game 6 winner

Sunday:
Championship game

http://www.archmadness.com/

And the Championship is televised nationally on CBS.

FANTASTIC conference tourney

One of the better moves of the MVC was ditching the on campus format and going to the neutral site in an NBA type arena.

So wish the Big Sky would do this...we have many NBA arena options (Sacramento, Portland, Denver, SLC, Phoenix, heck, even Spokane Arena) and invite all the teams where the play-in game is #8 vs. #9...and bring both the men and the women's teams, bands, cheerleaders, etc. But the Big Sky is void of any real leadership anyways so its just a pipe dream....

SactoHornetAlum wrote:

OSBF wrote:
And the Championship is televised nationally on CBS.

FANTASTIC conference tourney

One of the better moves of the MVC was ditching the on campus format and going to the neutral site in an NBA type arena.

So wish the Big Sky would do this...we have many NBA arena options (Sacramento, Portland, Denver, SLC, Phoenix, heck, even Spokane Arena) and invite all the teams where the play-in game is #8 vs. #9...and bring both the men and the women's teams, bands, cheerleaders, etc. But the Big Sky is void of any real leadership anyways so its just a pipe dream....

Distance is the major reason we can't do that - for the MVC, 6 schools are within a 3-hour or less drive of St. Louis. Furthest are under 7 hours.


Say you picked Salt Lake City - 2 schools within 3 hour drive. Everyone else 8 hours or more.

dbackjon wrote:

SactoHornetAlum wrote:
So wish the Big Sky would do this...we have many NBA arena options (Sacramento, Portland, Denver, SLC, Phoenix, heck, even Spokane Arena) and invite all the teams where the play-in game is #8 vs. #9...and bring both the men and the women's teams, bands, cheerleaders, etc. But the Big Sky is void of any real leadership anyways so its just a pipe dream....

Distance is the major reason we can't do that - for the MVC, 6 schools are within a 3-hour or less drive of St. Louis. Furthest are under 7 hours.


Say you picked Salt Lake City - 2 schools within 3 hour drive. Everyone else 8 hours or more.

That's BS, because if everyone in the conference knew ahead of time before the season begins, they would make reservations and go...I know I would...if the conf. reg season title is not decided until the final weekend, its a major pain in the arse to then try and make reservations for wherever. The distance thing is only an excuse, pure and simple.

SactoHornetAlum wrote:

dbackjon wrote:

Distance is the major reason we can't do that - for the MVC, 6 schools are within a 3-hour or less drive of St. Louis. Furthest are under 7 hours.


Say you picked Salt Lake City - 2 schools within 3 hour drive. Everyone else 8 hours or more.

That's BS, because if everyone in the conference knew ahead of time before the season begins, they would make reservations and go...I know I would...if the conf. reg season title is not decided until the final weekend, its a major pain in the arse to then try and make reservations for wherever. The distance thing is only an excuse, pure and simple.

We will have to disagree. Big Sky used to have it at the site of the previous year's champ, so the site was known well in advance. Attendance wasn't much different that current format.

dbackjon wrote:

SactoHornetAlum wrote:
So wish the Big Sky would do this...we have many NBA arena options (Sacramento, Portland, Denver, SLC, Phoenix, heck, even Spokane Arena) and invite all the teams where the play-in game is #8 vs. #9...and bring both the men and the women's teams, bands, cheerleaders, etc. But the Big Sky is void of any real leadership anyways so its just a pipe dream....

Distance is the major reason we can't do that - for the MVC, 6 schools are within a 3-hour or less drive of St. Louis. Furthest are under 7 hours.


Say you picked Salt Lake City - 2 schools within 3 hour drive. Everyone else 8 hours or more.

they don't drive to the tourney, they fly

dbackjon wrote:

SactoHornetAlum wrote:
That's BS, because if everyone in the conference knew ahead of time before the season begins, they would make reservations and go...I know I would...if the conf. reg season title is not decided until the final weekend, its a major pain in the arse to then try and make reservations for wherever. The distance thing is only an excuse, pure and simple.

We will have to disagree. Big Sky used to have it at the site of the previous year's champ, so the site was known well in advance. Attendance wasn't much different that current format.

No, its because there is no real leadership in marketing this conference in the conf. office. Just because that was then (the last time that format was used was 1994, that's about a generation ago). Something needs to change with the conference tourney, generate excitement. With the way its run, there is nothing to get excited about this tourney...the status quo is simply not working!!

What's worse is that then if the reg season champ loses in the semis, the attendance for the final has been terrible (see 2009, 2005, 2002, 2000, 1997) and its really looks bad on ESPN (our one and only game a year on the WWL).

OSBF wrote:

dbackjon wrote:

Distance is the major reason we can't do that - for the MVC, 6 schools are within a 3-hour or less drive of St. Louis. Furthest are under 7 hours.


Say you picked Salt Lake City - 2 schools within 3 hour drive. Everyone else 8 hours or more.

they don't drive to the tourney, they fly

Who fly's? I know UNI drives down, and we have one of the longer drives.


From campus to Scott Trade the MVC breaks down like this

Southern Illinois University - 104 mi - all interstate
Illinois State University - 169 mi - all interstate
Indiana State University - 171 mi - all interstate
Bradley University - 171 mi - all interstate
University of Evansville - 172 mi - all interstate
Missouri State University - 215 mi - all interstate
University of Northern Iowa - 346 mi - all interstate
Drake University - 373 mi - all interstate
Creighton University - 433 mi - all interstate
Wichita State University - 443 mi - all interstate


The average distance is 260 miles.

Also FWIW the MVC Woman's tourney is also a neutral site set up in St. Charles, MO...which is a suburb in the NW of STL.

clenz wrote:

OSBF wrote:
they don't drive to the tourney, they fly

Who fly's? I know UNI drives down, and we have one of the longer drives.


From campus to Scott Trade the MVC breaks down like this

Southern Illinois University - 104 mi - all interstate
Illinois State University - 169 mi - all interstate
Indiana State University - 171 mi - all interstate
Bradley University - 171 mi - all interstate
University of Evansville - 172 mi - all interstate
Missouri State University - 215 mi - all interstate
University of Northern Iowa - 346 mi - all interstate
Drake University - 373 mi - all interstate
Creighton University - 433 mi - all interstate
Wichita State University - 443 mi - all interstate


The average distance is 260 miles.

ISU takes a private charter to every game except Bradley and InSU.

State Farm provides the jet and pilot.

They even use it for recruiting visits.