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1. Butler (16) 0-0 752 1
2. Gonzaga (15) 0-0 723 7
3. Wichita State 0-0 651 13
4. Old Dominion 0-0 636 5
5. Murray State 0-0 527 6
6. Wofford 0-0 477 10
7. Northern Iowa 0-0 418 2
8. Oakland 0-0 396 9
9. Missouri State 0-0 390 24
10. Fairfield 0-0 360 NR
11. St. Mary's 0-0 333 3
12. UC Santa Barbara 0-0 300 25
13. Ohio 0-0 298 NR
14. VCU 0-0 294 21
15. North Texas 0-0 273 17
16. George Mason 0-0 266 NR
17. Western Kentucky 0-0 236 NR
18. Creighton 0-0 212 NR
19. Weber State 0-0 209 16
20. Siena 0-0 190 8
21. Loyola Marymount 0-0 189 NR
22. Coastal Carolina 0-0 170 14
23. Detroit 0-0 153 NR
24. Appalachian State 0-0 145 23
25. Cleveland State 0-0 127 NR

OTHERS RECEIVING VOTES: Long Beach State 106, Iona 104, Akron 61, Pacific 57, Princeton 55, Sam Houston State 53, Kent State 51, Morgan State 50, Stephen F. Austin 49, College of Charleston 48, Belmont 47, Morehead State 47, Ball State 42, East Tennessee State 40, Portland 35, Montana 33, Stony Brook 31, Milwaukee 29, Wright State 28, Quinnipiac 27, Boston University 26, Cornell 26, Illinois State 24, Davidson 23, Central Michigan 22, Harvard 21, Bradley 20, Lipscomb 17, Denver 16, IUPUI 15, Jackson State 13, Northeastern 13, Valparaiso 13, William & Mary 12, Green Bay 12, James Madison 10, Texas-San Antonio 10, South Alabama 9, Lafayette 8, Miami 7, American 6, Middle Tennessee 5, Western Carolina 5, Florida Atlantic 4, Lehigh 4, Eastern Michigan 3, Arkansas-Little Rock 2, Arkansas State 2, Montana State 2, Northern Colorado 2, Robert Morris 2, Cal State Fullerton 1, Holy Cross 1, South Dakota 1.

Murray State is gonna be goooood this year.

I wouldn't be surprised if they wind up at the top of this poll at some point.

Typical worthless pre-season trash.

ToTheLeft wrote:Murray State is gonna be goooood this year.

I wouldn't be surprised if they wind up at the top of this poll at some point.

I can see them get to #3, but I don't see how they get by Butler and the 'Zags.

free7694 wrote:

ToTheLeft wrote:Murray State is gonna be goooood this year.

I wouldn't be surprised if they wind up at the top of this poll at some point.

I can see them get to #3, but I don't see how they get by Butler and the 'Zags.

If they beat Ole Miss, Stanford, and WKU before conference play rolls around, I doubt Butler and Zaga will have as unblemished of a record.

Murray State is going to wind up with a 2 or 3 loss record, in my opinion, and will be a very strong team with a good chance of making a nice run in the tourney.

Murray State returns eight players from a team that went 31-5, captured the Ohio Valley Conference title and upset Vanderbilt in the opening round of the NCAA tournament. The Racers are the overwhelming pick to repeat as conference champions and even received a healthy 15 votes in the preseason Associated Press poll.

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They're athletic, they've got shooters, they play defense. They're gonna be good.

ToTheLeft wrote:

free7694 wrote: I can see them get to #3, but I don't see how they get by Butler and the 'Zags.

If they beat Ole Miss, Stanford, and WKU before conference play rolls around, I doubt Butler and Zaga will have as unblemished of a record.

Murray State is going to wind up with a 2 or 3 loss record, in my opinion, and will be a very strong team with a good chance of making a nice run in the tourney.

Murray State returns eight players from a team that went 31-5, captured the Ohio Valley Conference title and upset Vanderbilt in the opening round of the NCAA tournament. The Racers are the overwhelming pick to repeat as conference champions and even received a healthy 15 votes in the preseason Associated Press poll.

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They're athletic, they've got shooters, they play defense. They're gonna be good.

I wasn't trying to degrade Murray State, just saying that Gonzaga and Butler are REALLY good. Let's not forget that one is a perrennial Sweet 16 contender and the other was within 2 points of a national championship last year.

Oh I know, and both will be good. I love all three teams (Butler, Zaga, and MSU). I just think MSU is going to be very, very good this year and will be a sweet 16 calibre team.

Weber State at #19 is ok with me.

For us to move up in the poll we have the preseason schedule to do it.

#24 BYU
@ Utah St (4 AP votes)

Possible games with Arizona St and St Johns in Alaska Tourney. ASU picked 4th in Pac 10. St John's has 10 seniors so I guess they shouldn't suck.

The next best games we have are @ Utah and @ Tulsa. Utah might not be good and Tulsa was picked 4th in ConfUSA.

ToTheLeft wrote:Oh I know, and both will be good. I love all three teams (Butler, Zaga, and MSU). I just think MSU is going to be very, very good this year and will be a sweet 16 calibre team.

Agreed. If Hayward had stayed, I think Butler would have a great shot to get back to the National Championship game and finish the job. Gonzaga has a shot to make a deep run as well. Murray State could make a run to the Sweet 16/Elite 8 depending on how their bracket brakes during the first weekend.

Old Dominion opens the season up on Friday at home to Georgetown.

That will tell us exactly where ODU deserves to be in this poll.

ODUfanRazor wrote:Old Dominion opens the season up on Friday at home to Georgetown.

That will tell us exactly where ODU deserves to be in this poll.

I ODUfan just read this today

THE MORRILL COACHING TREE
Utah State head coach Stew Morrill currently has four former assistants who are head coaches at the Division I level in Jeff Jackson (Furman), Randy Rahe (Weber State), Blaine Taylor (Old Dominion) and Don Verlin (Idaho), which is tied for the eighth-most in the nation among active coaches. Arizona State's Herb Sendek has eight assistants who are current head coaches, followed by Ben Braun of Rice and Jim Calhoun of Conneticut with seven, John Calipari of Kentucky and Rick Pitino of Louisville with six, Tom Izzo of Michigan State and Mike Montgomery of California with five, and Stew Morrill and Trent Johnson of LSU with four. Stew Morrill was an assistant of Mike Montgomery at Montana.

Blaine Taylor was Mike Montgomery's assistant at Stanford, not Stu Morill's. He was also an assistant to Jud Heathcote at Michigan State.

To the best of my knowledge, Taylor was never an assistant for Morill or if he was, it was only very briefly. He always credits Montgomery and Heathcote as the people he has learned the most from and our system is very much like theirs, defense first.

One of Murray State's losses last year was to WKU. WKU is very underrated if the 98 - 70 blow out of Saint Joseph's is any indication, then WKU will make some noise.

ODUfanRazor wrote:Blaine Taylor was Mike Montgomery's assistant at Stanford, not Stu Morill's. He was also an assistant to Jud Heathcote at Michigan State.

To the best of my knowledge, Taylor was never an assistant for Morill or if he was, it was only very briefly. He always credits Montgomery and Heathcote as the people he has learned the most from and our system is very much like theirs, defense first.

heathcote, montgomery and morrill are all former Montana Griz head coaches. heathcoate took Montana to their first ever NCAA appearance in 1975 which was no easy task this was back in the day when weber state dominated and had won 6 big sky titles in a row ending in 1973.

heathcoate coached is last ever game in the 1995 ncaa tournament for michigan state losing to 14 seed weber state in the first round. he won a national title though with Michigan state i guess that would have been in 1979 with magic johnson.

NDSU has already beaten Denver, a team that also received some votes and 12th ranked Santa Barbara. They lost to the Ducks in OT.

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