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Montana's Wayne Tinkle Officially Gone to Oregon State

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Montana's Wayne Tinkle Officially Gone to Oregon State

Posted: Mon May 19, 2014 9:08 pm
by Mvemjsunpx
http://missoulian.com/sports/college/mo ... f887a.html

Congratulations to Coach Tinkle! Well deserved! :D






But now he's dead to us…  :evil:

Re: Montana's Wayne Tinkle Officially Gone to Oregon State

Posted: Mon May 19, 2014 9:14 pm
by Vidav
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Re: Montana's Wayne Tinkle Officially Gone to Oregon State

Posted: Mon May 19, 2014 9:34 pm
by Mvemjsunpx
Fun fact: the Griz have been to the NCAA Tournament 9 times since Oregon State's last appearance (1990).

Re: Montana's Wayne Tinkle Officially Gone to Oregon State

Posted: Mon May 19, 2014 9:46 pm
by grizzaholic
Mvemjsunpx wrote:Fun fact: the Griz have been to the NCAA Tournament 9 times since Oregon State's last appearance (1990).
I thought he would stay for another year due to his son being a SR next year. Oh well. Any news on schools his son is looking at?

Also...news on possible coaching candidates? Could Engstrom toss his hat in the ring to completely fuck the school more and keep his legacy intact?

Re: Montana's Wayne Tinkle Officially Gone to Oregon State

Posted: Mon May 19, 2014 9:56 pm
by Mvemjsunpx
grizzaholic wrote:
Mvemjsunpx wrote:Fun fact: the Griz have been to the NCAA Tournament 9 times since Oregon State's last appearance (1990).
I thought he would stay for another year due to his son being a SR next year. Oh well. Any news on schools his son is looking at?
Oregon State? ;)

Seriously, though, I believe Krystko's already offered him a scholarship at Utah.
Also...news on possible coaching candidates? Could Engstrom toss his hat in the ring to completely fuck the school more and keep his legacy intact?
I'm not sure Engstrom really has "fucked the school" any (I think O'Day & Pflugrad deserved to be fired, though it's unclear whether Engstrom canned them for the right reasons and his PR handling of everything was certainly a mess), but there're a lot of good candidates. My first choice would be Bill Evans, but that has about no chance of happening. I hope it's not Blaine Taylor.

Re: Montana's Wayne Tinkle Officially Gone to Oregon State

Posted: Mon May 19, 2014 9:56 pm
by bobwoodshed
As an alumnus of OSU, I want this to be a good hire so bad. I'm just hoping Tinkle's transition to the Pac-12 is smoother than Ken Bone's was...

Re: Montana's Wayne Tinkle Officially Gone to Oregon State

Posted: Tue May 20, 2014 2:00 am
by grizzaholic
Mvemjsunpx wrote:
grizzaholic wrote:
I thought he would stay for another year due to his son being a SR next year. Oh well. Any news on schools his son is looking at?
Oregon State? ;)

Seriously, though, I believe Krystko's already offered him a scholarship at Utah.
Also...news on possible coaching candidates? Could Engstrom toss his hat in the ring to completely fuck the school more and keep his legacy intact?
I'm not sure Engstrom really has "fucked the school" any (I think O'Day & Pflugrad deserved to be fired, though it's unclear whether Engstrom canned them for the right reasons and his PR handling of everything was certainly a mess), but there're a lot of good candidates. My first choice would be Bill Evans, but that has about no chance of happening. I hope it's not Blaine Taylor.
I figured his kid would go the Utah way.

Not to go all E-Griz on ya...Engstrom fucked Montana IMO. Big time. The ball was rolling down hill and Pflu was set to put the Maybach 62 back in gear and 'doink' he got fucked us and it was a landslide.

Also...coaching $-dollar-$ are terrible at Montana which makes no sense to me. I guess they gotta pay for all the buildings and properties before the cash cow that makes these things possible...right :dunce: Fuck me right? I gave up my 4 tickets. If I want to attend a game I can always get them, no problem...unlike previous years.

That says a lot.

Re: Montana's Wayne Tinkle Officially Gone to Oregon State

Posted: Tue May 20, 2014 4:55 am
by Mvemjsunpx
grizzaholic wrote:I figured his kid would go the Utah way.

Not to go all E-Griz on ya...Engstrom fucked Montana IMO. Big time. The ball was rolling down hill and Pflu was set to put the Maybach 62 back in gear and 'doink' he got fucked us and it was a landslide.

Also...coaching $-dollar-$ are terrible at Montana which makes no sense to me. I guess they gotta pay for all the buildings and properties before the cash cow that makes these things possible...right :dunce: Fuck me right? I gave up my 4 tickets. If I want to attend a game I can always get them, no problem...unlike previous years.

That says a lot.
Pflugrad's negligence during the bail money fiasco was a big reason things got as bad as they did. It was borderline whether he deserved to be fired, IMO (and I think O'Day is more to blame than him), but his self-absorbed, mopey behavior since his firing makes it clear to me he didn't learn anything from this & that it's likely this kind of thing would've happened again. Pflugrad comes off more like a glorified offensive coordinator who had no interest in team administration/discipline/etc. In retrospect, it seems possible other schools saw this in him & that's why he never got a head job prior to UM. :twocents:

As for the coaching money thing… UM's a public school, so spending this kind of money is a lot more complicated than it is for a private school. The state just doesn't have the tax base to fund that kind of thing (& I'm not sure they should, either) and it doesn't have a huge amount of wealthy benefactors itching to donate millions for football. One thing I'd like to see the NCAA do to level the playing field (at least on the high end) is implement a salary cap for coaches—maybe no more than $1 million per year for a head coach. That would free up a lot of university money for other pursuits and end the current waste of an arms race that college coaching has become.

Re: Montana's Wayne Tinkle Officially Gone to Oregon State

Posted: Tue May 20, 2014 5:46 am
by bandl
Tinkle?
Figured he would go to Austin Peay.

Re: Montana's Wayne Tinkle Officially Gone to Oregon State

Posted: Thu May 22, 2014 2:07 pm
by CAA Flagship
So Montana pissed away Tinkle?

Re: Montana's Wayne Tinkle Officially Gone to Oregon State

Posted: Thu May 22, 2014 2:37 pm
by AZGrizFan
CAA Flagship wrote:So Montana pissed away Tinkle?
Montana really pissed this one down their leg.

Re: Montana's Wayne Tinkle Officially Gone to Oregon State

Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2014 4:59 pm
by Grizalltheway
Montana announces Travis DeCuire as its new head coach. Any ODU guys have thoughts on him?

Re: Montana's Wayne Tinkle Officially Gone to Oregon State

Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2014 2:54 pm
by CAA Flagship
Grizalltheway wrote:Montana announces Travis DeCuire as its new head coach. Any ODU guys have thoughts on him?
I had many conversations with him and played golf with him at least twice while at ODU. Personally, he is a really good guy. Professionally, I think he has the experience and drive to do well. He is energetic and should be able to recruit well. I think he will be a "player's coach" because he will be involved with them more than some older coaches. I think Montana did well with this hire, but if he wins, he will move on. He has built a good reputation thus far and just needs that HC experience on his resume.

Re: Montana's Wayne Tinkle Officially Gone to Oregon State

Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2014 3:53 pm
by Grizalltheway
CAA Flagship wrote:
Grizalltheway wrote:Montana announces Travis DeCuire as its new head coach. Any ODU guys have thoughts on him?
I had many conversations with him and played golf with him at least twice while at ODU. Personally, he is a really good guy. Professionally, I think he has the experience and drive to do well. He is energetic and should be able to recruit well. I think he will be a "player's coach" because he will be involved with them more than some older coaches. I think Montana did well with this hire, but if he wins, he will move on. He has built a good reputation thus far and just needs that HC experience on his resume.
Due the (relatively) low salaries we pay them, that tends to be the norm with our football and men's basketball coaches. The one guy who said he wanted to retire at UM (Pflu) got fired. :|

Re: Montana's Wayne Tinkle Officially Gone to Oregon State

Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2014 6:05 pm
by Mvemjsunpx
Grizalltheway wrote:
CAA Flagship wrote: I had many conversations with him and played golf with him at least twice while at ODU. Personally, he is a really good guy. Professionally, I think he has the experience and drive to do well. He is energetic and should be able to recruit well. I think he will be a "player's coach" because he will be involved with them more than some older coaches. I think Montana did well with this hire, but if he wins, he will move on. He has built a good reputation thus far and just needs that HC experience on his resume.
Due the (relatively) low salaries we pay them, that tends to be the norm with our football and men's basketball coaches. The one guy who said he wanted to retire at UM (Pflu) got fired. :|
I don't actually believe Pflugrad had much intention of staying in Missoula forever before he was fired. That just fits with the mopey, self-absorbed depression he's displayed in interviews since he was canned.

I don't think there's any chance UM & MSU will be paying coaches noticeably more anytime soon. The Board of Regents wouldn't allow it, and Montana taxpayers likely won't either. That's not necessarily a bad thing—that kind of money could probably be spent better elsewhere in the educational system anyway.
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