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Why is Western Carolina Holding a Kid Hostage?

Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 6:47 am
by Appaholic
Sometimes a story comes across the desk so confounding, so obviously wrong that it makes one question how people in a position of authority and power can retain their job.

Kelsey Evans is an 18-year-old basketball player from Raleigh, who as a high school senior signed a letter of intent to play for WCU this season.

She was impressed with coach Kellie Harper and wanted to play for her. When Harper left Cullowhee earlier this year to take the job at N.C. State, Evans asked to be released from that commitment.

Deciding to major in chemistry and stay closer to home, Evans chose Elon, but WCU refused to release Evans from her letter of intent.

According to Elon coach Karen Barefoot and her high school coach Danielle Blackburn, Evans is a great kid, a bright student with a heart of gold, a 6-foot-2 post player who averaged 18 points and 11 rebounds a game last season.

If WCU continues to deny her release, she will have to sit out this season and lose one of her four years of eligibility.

Why?

That's a legitimate question that athletic director Chip Smith refuses to answer. Smith will not return calls or make himself available for explanation.

WCU women's coach Karen Middleton also didn't return phone calls seeking comment.

Blackburn said she had spoken to both Middleton and Smith about giving Evans her release.

“Coach Middleton said she was fine with that. She said that after talking to Kelsey she couldn't convince her to come to Western, then she was OK with her going elsewhere,” said Blackburn.

“But Chip Smith said the (letter of intent) was a signed contract, and that she should honor that contract. He said he wanted Kelsey to come to (WCU) for a year and see if she liked it there.”

It is a legitimate argument that Evans made a commitment that should be honored, but that works both ways.

If the contract included the same terms upon her entry to WCU as the time when she singed the letter, then Evans should be bound to her commitment.

But the contract changed when Harper left.

Why shouldn't a teenager making the biggest decision of her life be allowed to call an audible when a coach leaves?

Harper recruited Evans under the premise she would be her coach. That is no longer the case.

“I think coach Harper is great, but she broke a contract to go to State,” said Blackburn.

“Why is (WCU) OK with Harper breaking a contract but not Kelsey? Why penalize a great kid who did nothing wrong?"

“She has made it clear she doesn't want to go to Western, and what do you gain by making her sit out a year that she will never get back?”


Evans filed a lawsuit in Wake County Superior Court last week challenging the rule that allows WCU to decide whether she can play on Elon's team this fall.

Shame on the NCAA for having a rule that allows coaches to leave but not players. And shame on Smith for invoking the rule when he could just let Evans walk, a rubber stamp most other schools employ when a kid wants out of a letter of intent.

And even if WCU prevails in court, what has it won?

Do you high-five the attorneys on the way out of the courtroom and go to the bar for a celebratory drink, raising a toast to the fact that you were successful in denying a young woman the chance to play ball for a year?

There have been similar situations when schools told kids who wanted out of their commitment that they would grant the release if the player went to a school in another conference, so as not to come back and beat them.

Elon and WCU are in the Southern Conference, but if that is part of Smith's reasoning, whatever competitive advantage gained in a few women's basketball games is a poor excuse for his actions.

Blackburn has two other players on the WCU women's team and said she thinks Middleton will do a good job, but she would be hesitant to send kids to Cullowhee in the future after Smith's actions.

“Basketball-wise, I think it's a great program,” she said. “But administration-wise, I would certainly have concerns. What Chip Smith is doing is wrong.”

WCU has long struggled with recruiting athletes to a remote area with limited social opportunities.


Losing recruiting battles is part of the game, and the negative publicity of trying to strong arm an 18-year-old woman into attending your school — and then punishing her when she refuses — won't help.

Why a university of higher education would allow such actions from an athletic administrator is baffling.

Would you want your child to play for Chip Smith?


http://www.citizen-times.com/apps/pbcs. ... 00348/1002

Ouch! What a tool....is this the same AD who extendedx Brigg's contract? :roll:

Re: Why is Western Carolina Holding a Kid Hostage?

Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 11:59 am
by odualum08
That's a shame. I hope she gets out of there and gets to play for Elon. Karen Barefoot is a great person and coach. She was an assistant here at ODU and just recently took the head coaching job at Elon. I've never heard of schools that didn't let students out of their LOI after a coaching change. I mean its usually a courtesy right? This is really going to hurt them in recruiting future players, especially from the same high school.

Re: Why is Western Carolina Holding a Kid Hostage?

Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 12:51 pm
by AZGrizFan
I thought kids were allowed to renig when a coach leaves? :? :?

Re: Why is Western Carolina Holding a Kid Hostage?

Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 12:58 pm
by Appaholic
AZGrizFan wrote:I thought kids were allowed to renig when a coach leaves? :? :?
Nope. It's up to the schools, but it's usually a formality as anyone, outside of Cullowhee, NC mind you, knows it's better not to have the bad press associated with not allowing a kid out of the LOI once there is a coaching change....what a moron...the only successful sport Western has consistently had in recent years was women's BB...leave it to them to figure out how to fok that up.... :roll: :coffee:

Re: Why is Western Carolina Holding a Kid Hostage?

Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 1:50 pm
by clenz
AZGrizFan wrote:I thought kids were allowed to renig when a coach leaves? :? :?
They should be able to. The NCAA needs to step in and say that. Kids aren't committing to the school as much as they are the coach/staff in a lot of cases, especially when it comes to schools that don't have a NC shot.

Re: Why is Western Carolina Holding a Kid Hostage?

Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 3:54 pm
by SuperHornet
I'm caught in the middle here. This is at once an issue of individual integrity (hers) and gender equity (theirs). She gave her word, so she should be held to it. So I understand the school's stance. Releasing her would also cost the school $$ in recruiting a replacement (her LOI may also count against their cap regardless). However, given the fact that such releases are at least common if not a given nationwide when male athletes are involved, the school's stance smacks of sexism at its worst.

Given the bad pub involved, I think that the school should release her.

Re: Why is Western Carolina Holding a Kid Hostage?

Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 9:25 am
by citdog
SuperHornet wrote:I'm caught in the middle here. This is at once an issue of individual integrity (hers) and gender equity (theirs). She gave her word, so she should be held to it. So I understand the school's stance. Releasing her would also cost the school $$ in recruiting a replacement (her LOI may also count against their cap regardless). However, given the fact that such releases are at least common if not a given nationwide when male athletes are involved, the school's stance smacks of sexism at its worst.

Given the bad pub involved, I think that the school should release her.

gender equity????? get in that kitchen.....with a quickness

Re: Why is Western Carolina Holding a Kid Hostage?

Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 9:57 am
by dbackjon
You sign a LOI with a SCHOOL, not a coach.

And this is VERY COMMON within a conference.

Many conferences do not allow another conference school to offer a scholarship to people like this.


Too fucking bad for her. She changed her mind - don't expect WCU to make it easy for her.

Re: Why is Western Carolina Holding a Kid Hostage?

Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 10:12 am
by Appaholic
dbackjon wrote:You sign a LOI with a SCHOOL, not a coach.

And this is VERY COMMON within a conference.

Many conferences do not allow another conference school to offer a scholarship to people like this.


Too fucking bad for her. She changed her mind - don't expect WCU to make it easy for her.
Agree....school has every right to enforce this....and the HS coaches have every right to steer their stars away from programs or limit on-campus access to their star players. I'd agree with the hard-line stance regarding personal integrity if they also demanded the same from the coaches who recruited the player to campus to begi with.....

Re: Why is Western Carolina Holding a Kid Hostage?

Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 10:20 am
by dbackjon
The only way to get more integrity is to have sanctions restrictions follow coaches

Re: Why is Western Carolina Holding a Kid Hostage?

Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 7:12 pm
by SuperHornet
dbackjon wrote:The only way to get more integrity is to have sanctions restrictions follow coaches
There's been a START to this idea, Jon. Limited sanctions followed Sampson to Indiana, at least until new allegations led to fresh sanctions and his ultimate dismissal. Time will tell if this trend continues.

Re: Why is Western Carolina Holding a Kid Hostage?

Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 6:38 am
by Appaholic
dbackjon wrote:The only way to get more integrity is to have sanctions restrictions follow coaches
Agree....never understood why the sanctions didn't follow the coach...both coach & school are responsible...

Re: Why is Western Carolina Holding a Kid Hostage?

Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 8:44 pm
by Mike Johnson
dbackjon wrote:The only way to get more integrity is to have sanctions restrictions follow coaches
I tend to agree, but how far do you take this. I don't like the idea of a school and athletes being punished for actions by a coach that is long gone and that coach isn't. But, here are some scenarios.

If a head coach is fired and becomes a head coach at another school, and afterwards issues emerge from the previous school when he or she was there. Does the new school now get sanctions? What if the head coach became an assistant coach at the new school, is the new school going to be held responsible for previous activities of assistant coaches?

What if a head coach at a school was an assistant coach at another school and sanctions become required for the previous school for activities that happened when the coach was an assistant coach there?

What if an assistant coach at a school was at another school as an assistant and it turns out that while the assistant coach was at the former school, issues emerged. Is the new school to be sanctioned?

The NCAA isn't an association of coaches, it is an association of schools. It takes a majority of schools to make the rules and the NCAA can sanction schools for violating membership rules. It is up to schools to police their own and many violations aren't breaking of recruiting or other rules, but violations related to not following the required policing rules.

While, I don't like the current situation, I don't see very many schools being very interested in setting up conditions where they could be liable for issues that occur in another school. And it would take a majority of those schools to set up such a rule.

Re: Why is Western Carolina Holding a Kid Hostage?

Posted: Sun Nov 29, 2009 4:49 pm
by AppStateAlumQC
And this is why you don't go to Western.