Silenoz wrote:Actually looks like it might drop todaySilenoz wrote:Keep your eye out for the new Sports Illustrated on the 31st...
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I'm told it is likely my SI mag story will be posted at SI.com later today/tonight. Timing of Tress dec. will make sense after you read it
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Tressel lied to tOSU, NCAA - on his way out?
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It's tO$U.Willie wrote:It's THE Ohio State University to you, prick.
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"The unmasking thing was all created by Devin Nunes"
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Montana should claim the 1994 I-AA championship. 3 time champs assholes!
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Silenoz wrote:Montana should claim the 1994 I-AA championship. 3 time champs assholes!
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Re: Tressel lied to tOSU, NCAA - on his way out?
Terrell Pryor arrived to the team meeting today in this.... brand new... still temporary tags...
What a dumbass.
What a dumbass.
"The unmasking thing was all created by Devin Nunes"
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The only thing? Really? The only fucking thing out of EVERYTHING that has come out of this whole thing....I mean EVERYTHING....is that Urban Meyer's name has come up in rumor?Willie wrote:The only thing about this that bothers me...is people chanting for Urban Meyer to be the next Buckeyes coach. NOT gonna happen fuckos.
Really, not the fact that Tressel is only the second coach to ever be accused of what he was and keep his job....not the fact that apparently under Tressel this type of violation was very common. Not the fact he did nothing when he found out about it? Not the fact he lied to the NCAA about it? Not the fact he hid everything? None of that bothers you? None?
You're fucking kidding right?
I'm fucking ashamed of Rich Rod for forcing Michigan to face NCAA sanctions for something as fucking minor as too much practice time....let alone this fucking mess.
Re: Tressel lied to tOSU, NCAA - on his way out?
Like I've said...what happened is merely a skid mark on the underpants that is the fucking piece of shit FBS system.
I don't follow a team for the fucking coach, or their stupid mistakes they make. Mistakes don't play football. That's all I'm saying on it. I was a fan before and still am.
I don't follow a team for the fucking coach, or their stupid mistakes they make. Mistakes don't play football. That's all I'm saying on it. I was a fan before and still am.
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Re: Tressel lied to tOSU, NCAA - on his way out?
I'm not questioning your fandom...but here is a newsflah....THE TEAM IS THE ONE DOING THE ILLEGAL SHIT THAT LEAD TO THE COVER UP.Willie wrote:Like I've said...what happened is merely a skid mark on the underpants that is the fucking piece of shit FBS system.
I don't follow a team for the fucking coach, or their stupid mistakes they make. Mistakes don't play football. That's all I'm saying on it. I was a fan before and still am.
This goes way beyond just the coach. This goes deep into the compliance office, into the players, into the school administration, into the boosters, into the community of Columbus.
This is much much bigger than you are willing to admit.
If any Michigan or UNI coach (this type of this isn't limited to the FBS, it is widely known that Tressel was pulling this kind of shit at YSU) was accused of this I would want him fired immediately, and those players kicked off the fucking team.
Hell, I've been a proponent of kicking players off of the teams I support for "as little" as a DUI or MIP.
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WOW. Amazing article. OSU is going down if fucking flames.
Un-fucking-believable. What a scumbag.
A liar, a cheat, a scam artist.
Un-fucking-believable. What a scumbag.
A liar, a cheat, a scam artist.
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Re: Tressel lied to tOSU, NCAA - on his way out?
I love the fact that he would read people scriptures about integrity in the morning, then pull this shit....wow. Makes D1B look respectableDJH wrote:WOW. Amazing article. OSU is going down if fucking flames.
Un-fucking-believable. What a scumbag.
A liar, a cheat, a scam artist.
Re: Tressel lied to tOSU, NCAA - on his way out?
Willie, since you support only the team - not the coach - what is your take on this one?
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Significant inquiry by NCAA and OSU under way for Pryor, sources say
The NCAA and the Ohio State University's compliance office are conducting an independent investigation of Terrelle Pryor amid allegations that the star quarterback may have received cars and other extra benefits, sources told The Dispatch today.
Pryor has been questioned by OSU compliance officials in the past, but sources said this is the most significant inquiry to date. He already has been interviewed at least once by investigators within the past few weeks, sources said.
Pryor and the cars he drives have been an issue since he arrived on campus three years ago. Pryor has been connected to more than a half dozen vehicles during his time at Ohio State, according to sources.
Ohio State spokesman Jim Lynch wouldn't confirm whether Pryor is being investigated.
"The university continues to work with the NCAA as they investigate matters involving our football program, and we will continue to do so until the conclusion of the investigation," Lynch said. "We are unable to comment on specific players' situations because of federal law."
The investigation of Pryor off the field is separate from Coach Jim Tressel's resignation, which was announced earlier today. Attempts to reach Pryor were unsuccessful.
OSU officials previously said that even before Pryor arrived on campus in 2008, the NCAA examined the ownership of his vehicle and how it was paid for.
Pryor came under scrutiny in December after OSU received a letter from the U.S. Department of Justice. It said that during a drug raid, it had recovered Buckeye memorabilia linked to the quarterback and other players.
In the ensuing 11 days, OSU confirmed that Pryor and five other current football players had sold or exchanged memorabilia for cash and tattoos.
On Dec. 23, OSU suspended Pryor, running back Daniel Herron, receiver DeVier Posey, lineman Solomon Thomas and tackle Mike Adams for five games this season. Linebacker Jordan Whiting was suspended for one game.
In January, The Dispatch reported that three times in the past three years, Pryor was stopped for traffic violations while driving cars that were owned by a car salesman or a Columbus used-car dealer for whom the salesman worked.
The salesman, Aaron Kniffin, told The Dispatch that while working at Jack Maxton Chevrolet in 2008, he allowed Pryor to drive his SUV to his hometown in Pennsylvania so that his mother could check it out. Pryor did not buy the vehicle.
Kniffin also said he arranged for Pryor to use a 2009 Dodge while Pryor's car was being repaired at Auto Direct, a Columbus car dealership where Kniffin worked last fall.
About two dozen autographed jerseys hang inside Auto Direct's office, including Pryor's.
Pryor said at the time that he doesn't remember the circumstances of him signing his jersey that hangs in the dealership, but "I sign a lot of stuff for Buckeye fans - I don't like to turn down fans. But I don't do it to get any favors or discounts."
Kniffin also sold cars to Pryor's mother and brother as well as dozens of other Buckeye athletes or their family members.
The car dealer has said repeatedly that the vehicles sales with OSU athletes have been legitimate and he has not offered them special deals.
As part of its investigation of Tressel, the NCAA wants to know details about Pryor's relationship with Ted Sarniak, a 67-year-old businessman from Jeannette, Pa., the quarterback's hometown.
Doug Archie, OSU's director of compliance, said in March that Sarniak served as Pryor's contact person during Ohio State's recruiting efforts but is not considered a booster.
"Mr. Sarniak and Terrelle Pryor have been friends for a number of years, and their friendship dates back prior to Terrelle's enrollment at Ohio State," Archie said. "As the friendship developed, Mr. Sarniak is someone who Terrelle has reached out to for advice and guidance throughout his high-school and collegiate career."
Sarniak has attended virtually every game, home and away, since Pryor enrolled in 2008.
Sarniak exchanged emails with Tressel last spring when the coach was tipped off that Pryor and others were selling memorabilia.
OSU released two of those emails but refuses to release any others, citing the federal student privacy law, the Family Educational Rights and Privacy Act.
State courts in Arizona, Florida, Illinois and North Carolina each have ordered colleges in recent months to release documents that they had withheld after citing FERPA. In Arizona, a community college attempted to withhold emails among faculty members about a student.
"Court after court has said that not every cocktail napkin with a students' name on it is an education record," said Frank LoMonte, executive director of the Student Press Law Center. "An email between a coach and an outside third party doesn't qualify under FERPA."
In addition to the emails between Tressel and Sarniak, the university also has censored the Justice Department letter that details by name what memorabilia the players sold and what they received in return.
http://www.dispatch.com/live/content/sp ... 0/zzz.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Significant inquiry by NCAA and OSU under way for Pryor, sources say
The NCAA and the Ohio State University's compliance office are conducting an independent investigation of Terrelle Pryor amid allegations that the star quarterback may have received cars and other extra benefits, sources told The Dispatch today.
Pryor has been questioned by OSU compliance officials in the past, but sources said this is the most significant inquiry to date. He already has been interviewed at least once by investigators within the past few weeks, sources said.
Pryor and the cars he drives have been an issue since he arrived on campus three years ago. Pryor has been connected to more than a half dozen vehicles during his time at Ohio State, according to sources.
Ohio State spokesman Jim Lynch wouldn't confirm whether Pryor is being investigated.
"The university continues to work with the NCAA as they investigate matters involving our football program, and we will continue to do so until the conclusion of the investigation," Lynch said. "We are unable to comment on specific players' situations because of federal law."
The investigation of Pryor off the field is separate from Coach Jim Tressel's resignation, which was announced earlier today. Attempts to reach Pryor were unsuccessful.
OSU officials previously said that even before Pryor arrived on campus in 2008, the NCAA examined the ownership of his vehicle and how it was paid for.
Pryor came under scrutiny in December after OSU received a letter from the U.S. Department of Justice. It said that during a drug raid, it had recovered Buckeye memorabilia linked to the quarterback and other players.
In the ensuing 11 days, OSU confirmed that Pryor and five other current football players had sold or exchanged memorabilia for cash and tattoos.
On Dec. 23, OSU suspended Pryor, running back Daniel Herron, receiver DeVier Posey, lineman Solomon Thomas and tackle Mike Adams for five games this season. Linebacker Jordan Whiting was suspended for one game.
In January, The Dispatch reported that three times in the past three years, Pryor was stopped for traffic violations while driving cars that were owned by a car salesman or a Columbus used-car dealer for whom the salesman worked.
The salesman, Aaron Kniffin, told The Dispatch that while working at Jack Maxton Chevrolet in 2008, he allowed Pryor to drive his SUV to his hometown in Pennsylvania so that his mother could check it out. Pryor did not buy the vehicle.
Kniffin also said he arranged for Pryor to use a 2009 Dodge while Pryor's car was being repaired at Auto Direct, a Columbus car dealership where Kniffin worked last fall.
About two dozen autographed jerseys hang inside Auto Direct's office, including Pryor's.
Pryor said at the time that he doesn't remember the circumstances of him signing his jersey that hangs in the dealership, but "I sign a lot of stuff for Buckeye fans - I don't like to turn down fans. But I don't do it to get any favors or discounts."
Kniffin also sold cars to Pryor's mother and brother as well as dozens of other Buckeye athletes or their family members.
The car dealer has said repeatedly that the vehicles sales with OSU athletes have been legitimate and he has not offered them special deals.
As part of its investigation of Tressel, the NCAA wants to know details about Pryor's relationship with Ted Sarniak, a 67-year-old businessman from Jeannette, Pa., the quarterback's hometown.
Doug Archie, OSU's director of compliance, said in March that Sarniak served as Pryor's contact person during Ohio State's recruiting efforts but is not considered a booster.
"Mr. Sarniak and Terrelle Pryor have been friends for a number of years, and their friendship dates back prior to Terrelle's enrollment at Ohio State," Archie said. "As the friendship developed, Mr. Sarniak is someone who Terrelle has reached out to for advice and guidance throughout his high-school and collegiate career."
Sarniak has attended virtually every game, home and away, since Pryor enrolled in 2008.
Sarniak exchanged emails with Tressel last spring when the coach was tipped off that Pryor and others were selling memorabilia.
OSU released two of those emails but refuses to release any others, citing the federal student privacy law, the Family Educational Rights and Privacy Act.
State courts in Arizona, Florida, Illinois and North Carolina each have ordered colleges in recent months to release documents that they had withheld after citing FERPA. In Arizona, a community college attempted to withhold emails among faculty members about a student.
"Court after court has said that not every cocktail napkin with a students' name on it is an education record," said Frank LoMonte, executive director of the Student Press Law Center. "An email between a coach and an outside third party doesn't qualify under FERPA."
In addition to the emails between Tressel and Sarniak, the university also has censored the Justice Department letter that details by name what memorabilia the players sold and what they received in return.
Re: Tressel lied to tOSU, NCAA - on his way out?
Guess you can't read. I'm not talking about it. I definitely don't need to explain my loyalty to a team. End of story.
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But as far as Pryor goes...good riddance to him. We have the best QB recruit in the country.
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Tressel- what a f*cking crook
OSU sounds like the renegade Miami program of the mid 80s-early 90s. I hope the NCAA drops the hammer on them.
OSU sounds like the renegade Miami program of the mid 80s-early 90s. I hope the NCAA drops the hammer on them.
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The nickname "Senator" does seem appropriate somehow.
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Re: Tressel lied to tOSU, NCAA - on his way out?
The funny thing is, there are alumni from plenty of schools who would love to have this happen to their alma mater, as that would indicate their administration actually gives a flying fuck about football...
I'm looking at you Arizona State.
I'm looking at you Arizona State.
Ah, my story had a big thing in it too. You just didn't give it time to develop.
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Yeah, I wonder how you landed him.Willie wrote:But as far as Pryor goes...good riddance to him. We have the best QB recruit in the country.
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1) Braxton Miller was #4 QB according to ESPN and #2 QB according to both Scout and RivalsWillie wrote:But as far as Pryor goes...good riddance to him. We have the best QB recruit in the country.
2) Terrelle Pryor was the #1 QB in the country when he came out of high school too
3) Pryor as a senior 3rd year starter would give OSU a much better chance to win games than Miller would. Pryor is an idiot, but there is no doubt that OSU is a worse football team when he isn't on the field.
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Does it really matter? Once the NCAA's done with them, it's not like the Buckeyes will have a chance in hell of going to a bowl game anytime soon, anyway.Shellin wrote:1) Braxton Miller was #4 QB according to ESPN and #2 QB according to both Scout and RivalsWillie wrote:But as far as Pryor goes...good riddance to him. We have the best QB recruit in the country.
2) Terrelle Pryor was the #1 QB in the country when he came out of high school too
3) Pryor as a senior 3rd year starter would give OSU a much better chance to win games than Miller would. Pryor is an idiot, but there is no doubt that OSU is a worse football team when he isn't on the field.
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Great news for them, really-they won't have to worry about their annual bitch-slapping from an SEC team.free7694 wrote:Does it really matter? Once the NCAA's done with them, it's not like the Buckeyes will have a chance in hell of going to a bowl game anytime soon, anyway.Shellin wrote:
1) Braxton Miller was #4 QB according to ESPN and #2 QB according to both Scout and Rivals
2) Terrelle Pryor was the #1 QB in the country when he came out of high school too
3) Pryor as a senior 3rd year starter would give OSU a much better chance to win games than Miller would. Pryor is an idiot, but there is no doubt that OSU is a worse football team when he isn't on the field.
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"The Clarett and Baker scandals were further evidence that Tressel was, at best, woefully ignorant of questionable behavior by his players and not aggressive enough in preventing it. At worst, he was a conduit for improper benefits, as Clarett alleged. The latter interpretation is suggested by a story that has long circulated among college coaches and was confirmed to SI by a former colleague of Tressel's from Earle Bruce's staff at Ohio State in the mid-1980s. One of Tressel's duties then was to organize and run the Buckeyes' summer camp. Most of the young players who attended it would never play college football, but a few were top prospects whom Ohio State was recruiting. At the end of camp, attendees bought tickets to a raffle with prizes such as cleats and a jersey. According to his fellow assistant, Tressel rigged the raffle so that the elite prospects won -- a potential violation of NCAA rules. Says the former colleague, who asked not to be identified because he still has ties to the Ohio State community, "In the morning he would read the Bible with another coach. Then, in the afternoon, he would go out and cheat kids who had probably saved up money from mowing lawns to buy those raffle tickets. That's Jim Tressel."
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That, in many ways, is typical of similar morals held by a lot of church going people.
Throw the book at Tressel...and OSU. OSU football should be regulated to playing scrimages for the next couple years. Their school and their fans should be "rewarded" for looking the other way.
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That, in many ways, is typical of similar morals held by a lot of church going people.
Throw the book at Tressel...and OSU. OSU football should be regulated to playing scrimages for the next couple years. Their school and their fans should be "rewarded" for looking the other way.
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What if I have more personalities than that?
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How can this be? Tressel is a god fearing Christian who could never possibly do anything unethical.