Jeter deserves being in the Hall of Fame and so does Omar, for different reasons. Visquel is #9 all-time in Defensive WAR, all positions. Won 11 gold gloves, Jeter 5. He wasn't all glove either like #2, Mark Belanger. Visquel finished with 2877 hits in his career. Jeter didn't make the top 1000 and neither did Don Mattingly and his 9 Gold Gloves. That is where NY bias comes in for the win.CAA Flagship wrote:Oh stop already. Vizquel batted .272. Jeter batted .308. That's a significant difference.dbackjon wrote:
Too high.
If he wasn't a Yankee he'd likely get in first ballot, but around 80%. Similarly, the Best SS ever to play the game - Omar Vizquel - if he was a Yankee he'd be in the hall already.
Jeter was a negative value SS.
Jeter also batted over .300 in the postseason. And that's not from a small sample size. It was the equivalent of a full season.
Rank Player (yrs, age) Defensive WAR Bats
1. Ozzie Smith+ (19) 44.2 B
2. Mark Belanger (18) 39.5 R
3. Brooks Robinson+ (23) 39.1 R
4. Cal Ripken+ (21) 35.7 R
5. Joe Tinker+ (15) 34.3 R
6. Luis Aparicio+ (18) 31.8 R
7. Rabbit Maranville+ (23) 30.8 R
8. Ivan Rodriguez+ (21) 29.6 R
9. Omar Vizquel (24) 29.5 B
10. Adrian Beltre (21) 29.3 R
11. Bobby Wallace+ (25) 28.7 R
12. Bill Dahlen (21) 28.5 R
13. Art Fletcher (13) 28.3 R
14. Andrelton Simmons (8, 29) 27.3 R
15. Gary Carter+ (19) 26.1 R
16. Bob Boone (19) 25.8 R
17. Pee Wee Reese+ (16) 25.6 R
18. Jim Sundberg (16) 25.3 R
19. Yadier Molina (16, 36) 25.2 R
20. Marty Marion (13) 25.0 R
Roger Peckinpaugh (17) 25.0 R
22. Andruw Jones (17) 24.4 R
23. George Davis+ (20) 24.0 B
Bill Mazeroski+ (17) 24.0 R
25. Buddy Bell (18) 23.8 R
