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Post by **93henfan** » Mon Jun 23, 2014 10:43 am

And 90 minutes? Who the FUCK came up with that?

60 minutes. Any real sport is 60 minutes or 9 innings. Duh.

89Hen · Post by **89Hen** » Mon Jun 23, 2014 10:43 am

MSUDuo wrote:Well, if you're standing on the goal line and the ball is on the outside of the corner arc, the ball isn't ahead of you. However, very rarely do you not see a defender not sitting on the goal line as well which negates everything.

Agreed rare, but I swear I remember seeing this happen in a USMNT game once.

tribe_pride · Post by **tribe_pride** » Mon Jun 23, 2014 10:45 am

89Hen wrote:I know none of this will change and a lot of people won't give a rats ass what I think, but if I were to change soccer to make it more attractive for the casual observer:

1. Stop the clock on injuries and substitutions, no stoppage time. The halves end at 45:00 and 90:00, not when there is a lull in play and it's just past the stoppage time. Just about every other sport has tinkered with their clock management, why is soccer so stubborn?

2. Change the offsides rule (this has actually been done many times). I'm tempted to say simply do away with offsides, but that's too extreme and even less likely to ever happen. I think my answer would be to make it only offsides if you are in the penalty area. Not a big change, but maybe enough to make a difference. One footnote to this, isn't it technically possible to be offsides on a corner? If so, that's stupid and I'd change that. You should never be "offsides" if the ball is ahead of you.

3. More yellow cards for diving and delay. This is not a rule change, but certainly a change in application. The NHL embellishment rule was a fantastic one and when they started calling it, it did cut down on swan dives. Heck, they even call it in the playoffs including the SC finals.

If you've read this thread, you see the same complaints coming up over and over from us casual observers. Take it FWIW, or don't.

Only dealing with 2 because I agree with you on 3 (and you are correct that it is an application not a new rule and it is done better at the club level). Agree to disagree on 1.

For 2 - You are correct that you cannot be offsides on a corner kick so no worries there. Randomly and as part of the same rule, you also cannot be offsides on a throw in no matter where it is taken or on a goal kick - See Fifa Rule 11.

As I noted before, I think you will reduce scoring if you move the offsides line back. More defensemen will sit way back and that will take away a lot of rushes like we saw for Portugal's 2nd goal yesterday. It will stop breaks which is one of the 2 main ways that goals are scored (the other being set pieces). The 2nd way the US scored yesterday and Portugal's 1st goal were rarer ways to score. If there were no offsides, it would be even worse.

Post by **dbackjon** » Mon Jun 23, 2014 10:52 am

Looks like Netherlands will take Group B

tribe_pride · Post by **tribe_pride** » Mon Jun 23, 2014 10:57 am

Final Standings for Group B:
Netherlands - winners to play 2nd place of Group B (Brazil/Mexico/Croatia)
Chile - 2nd place to play Winners of Group B (Brazil/Mexico/Croatia)
Spain - won 3-0 today to get 3rd place
Australia - goes home with 0 pts and last place in the World Cup along with others who get o points.

Post by **93henfan** » Mon Jun 23, 2014 10:58 am

dbackjon wrote:Looks like Netherlands will take Group B

Do the guys in orange uniforms look as good to you as their chicks in orange uniforms look to the rest of us here?

Post by **93henfan** » Mon Jun 23, 2014 11:01 am

tribe_pride wrote:Final Standings for Group B:
Netherlands - winners to play 2nd place of Group B (Brazil/Mexico/Croatia)
Chile - 2nd place to play Winners of Group B (Brazil/Mexico/Croatia)
Spain - won 3-0 today to get 3rd place
Australia - goes home with 0 pts and last place in the World Cup along with others who get o points.

HAH HAH! SUCK IT AUSTRALIA!!!!

Wait. I don't hate Australia. There's nothing to hate. Good looking women, great weather, beautiful beaches, cute koala bears and kangaroos and shit.

Really, is there anything to hate about Australia at all? Fuck them! Bastards. I hate them.

Post by **Ibanez** » Mon Jun 23, 2014 11:04 am

93henfan wrote:
dbackjon wrote:Looks like Netherlands will take Group B

Do the guys in orange uniforms look as good to you as their chicks in orange uniforms look to the rest of us here?

Good question.

Post by **Ibanez** » Mon Jun 23, 2014 11:05 am

93henfan wrote:
tribe_pride wrote:Final Standings for Group B:
Netherlands - winners to play 2nd place of Group B (Brazil/Mexico/Croatia)
Chile - 2nd place to play Winners of Group B (Brazil/Mexico/Croatia)
Spain - won 3-0 today to get 3rd place
Australia - goes home with 0 pts and last place in the World Cup along with others who get o points.
HAH HAH! SUCK IT AUSTRALIA!!!!

Wait. I don't hate Australia. There's nothing to hate. Good looking women, great weather, beautiful beaches, cute koala bears and kangaroos and shit.

Really, is there anything to hate about Australia at all? Fuck them! Bastards. I hate them.

They gave us Mel Gibson.

89Hen · Post by **89Hen** » Mon Jun 23, 2014 11:06 am

Has England only reached the semifinals twice in history??

I'm starting to think the US is better than England.

GannonFan · Post by **GannonFan** » Mon Jun 23, 2014 11:09 am

93henfan wrote:And 90 minutes? Who the **** came up with that?

60 minutes. Any real sport is 60 minutes or 9 innings. Duh.

Basketball is 48 minutes at the pro level.

Post by **93henfan** » Mon Jun 23, 2014 11:10 am

89Hen wrote: I'm starting to think the US is better than England.

But I'll bet you still skipped work to watch the royal wedding, didn't you?

Post by **93henfan** » Mon Jun 23, 2014 11:11 am

GannonFan wrote:
93henfan wrote:And 90 minutes? Who the **** came up with that?

60 minutes. Any real sport is 60 minutes or 9 innings. Duh.
Basketball is 48 minutes at the pro level.

Exactly. Not a real sport. Too many blacks. My cap on blacks is 85%. You exceed that, I'm out.

Post by **Grizalltheway** » Mon Jun 23, 2014 11:12 am

93henfan wrote:
tribe_pride wrote:Final Standings for Group B:
Netherlands - winners to play 2nd place of Group B (Brazil/Mexico/Croatia)
Chile - 2nd place to play Winners of Group B (Brazil/Mexico/Croatia)
Spain - won 3-0 today to get 3rd place
Australia - goes home with 0 pts and last place in the World Cup along with others who get o points.
HAH HAH! SUCK IT AUSTRALIA!!!!

Wait. I don't hate Australia. There's nothing to hate. Good looking women, great weather, beautiful beaches, cute koala bears and kangaroos and shit.

Really, is there anything to hate about Australia at all? Fuck them! Bastards. I hate them.

Spiders. Giant fucking spiders.

Post by **clenz** » Mon Jun 23, 2014 11:13 am

89Hen wrote:Has England only reached the semifinals twice in history?? I'm starting to think the US is better than England.

We are actually rather close to them... They will never admit it though. I'm fighting that on the Tottenham forum I'm on

89Hen · Post by **89Hen** » Mon Jun 23, 2014 11:15 am

93henfan wrote:
89Hen wrote: I'm starting to think the US is better than England.
But I'll bet you still skipped work to watch the royal wedding, didn't you?

DVR

Post by **Grizalltheway** » Mon Jun 23, 2014 11:17 am

93henfan wrote:And 90 minutes? Who the FUCK came up with that?

60 minutes. Any real sport is 60 minutes or 9 innings. Duh.

They did it to keep the fatties out.

Post by **dbackjon** » Mon Jun 23, 2014 11:19 am

93henfan wrote:
dbackjon wrote:Looks like Netherlands will take Group B

Do the guys in orange uniforms look as good to you as their chicks in orange uniforms look to the rest of us here?

Depends on who is wearing them

89Hen · Post by **89Hen** » Mon Jun 23, 2014 11:23 am

clenz wrote:
89Hen wrote:Has England only reached the semifinals twice in history?? I'm starting to think the US is better than England.
We are actually rather close to them... They will never admit it though. I'm fighting that on the Tottenham forum I'm on

I don't see how somebody can argue against at least "close", at least for the last two WC's.

BDKJMU · Post by **BDKJMU** » Mon Jun 23, 2014 11:27 am

93henfan wrote:
tribe_pride wrote:Final Standings for Group B:
Netherlands - winners to play 2nd place of Group B (Brazil/Mexico/Croatia)
Chile - 2nd place to play Winners of Group B (Brazil/Mexico/Croatia)
Spain - won 3-0 today to get 3rd place
Australia - goes home with 0 pts and last place in the World Cup along with others who get o points.
HAH HAH! SUCK IT AUSTRALIA!!!!

Wait. I don't hate Australia. There's nothing to hate. Good looking women, great weather, beautiful beaches, cute koala bears and kangaroos and ****.

Really, is there anything to hate about Australia at all? **** them! Bastards. I hate them.

Yes. Very restrictive gun control almost as bad as the UK. You couldn't live there.

BDKJMU · Post by **BDKJMU** » Mon Jun 23, 2014 11:30 am

93henfan wrote:
GannonFan wrote:
Basketball is 48 minutes at the pro level.
Exactly. Not a real sport. Too many blacks. My cap on blacks is 85%. You exceed that, I'm out.

I think the NBA is "only" bout 80% black. Maybe would be over 85% if not for European imports....

GannonFan · Post by **GannonFan** » Mon Jun 23, 2014 11:52 am

93henfan wrote:
GannonFan wrote:
Basketball is 48 minutes at the pro level.
Exactly. Not a real sport. Too many blacks. My cap on blacks is 85%. You exceed that, I'm out.

Curling has 10 ends in it. Don't even go there and say curling isn't a real sport - we'll have words then.

tribe_pride · Post by **tribe_pride** » Mon Jun 23, 2014 12:13 pm

Lost in all of these discussions is how sick Jermaine Jones' goal was yesterday. if you go to about 20 seconds in you can see the amount of curve he puts on the ball to get it on net

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BdBreKJ24o8[/youtube]

Post by **93henfan** » Mon Jun 23, 2014 12:17 pm

GannonFan wrote:
93henfan wrote:
Exactly. Not a real sport. Too many blacks. My cap on blacks is 85%. You exceed that, I'm out.
Curling has 10 ends in it. Don't even go there and say curling isn't a real sport - we'll have words then.

I'm OK with women's curling.

Post by **Grizalltheway** » Mon Jun 23, 2014 12:48 pm

tribe_pride wrote:Lost in all of these discussions is how sick Jermaine Jones' goal was yesterday. if you go to about 20 seconds in you can see the amount of curve he puts on the ball to get it on net

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BdBreKJ24o8[/youtube]

You really expect the trolls ITT to appreciate that?

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