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[SDHornet]

You jumping on me too!?!?! When it rains it pours.

No, we cool!

Damn skippy we are.

[kalm]

So a catch and run of 50 yards is incomplete if you lose control when you hit the ground?

That's the kicker in this. Why can the ground cause an incompletion but not a fumble?

Because you have to control the ball through the completion of the catch to establish possession.

[Vidav]

So a catch and run of 50 yards is incomplete if you lose control when you hit the ground?

It was still part of the act of catching the ball in this instance.

No. He made a football move and was lunging for the goal line.

[clenz]

So a catch and run of 50 yards is incomplete if you lose control when you hit the ground?

It was still part of the act of catching the ball in this instance.

How? He took three steps after catching it,had clear control of the ball, and dove towards the end zone.

[Grizalltheway]

So a catch and run of 50 yards is incomplete if you lose control when you hit the ground?

That's the kicker in this. Why can the ground cause an incompletion but not a fumble?

Ask the rules committee. The refs enforced the rule as it's written.

[kalm]

It was still part of the act of catching the ball in this instance.

No. He made a football move and was lunging for the goal line.

He was stumbling backwards trying to possess the ball...

[kalm]

It was still part of the act of catching the ball in this instance.

How? He took three steps after catching it,had clear control of the ball, and dove towards the end zone.

The rule isn't based on # of steps, it's based on completing the catch...under the rules.

[clenz]

No. He made a football move and was lunging for the goal line.

He was stumbling backwards trying to possess the ball...

The ball never moved until he hit the ground...after having gotten two feet (three actually) in bounds...

That's possession followed by ground causing a fumble

[Screamin_Eagle174]

You fit the bandwagon fanbase perfectly.

Enjoy being a pretentious, worthless human being your whole life. Which bandwagon you going to hop on next, NDSU? It's not like UNI will ever win a NC.

Still waiting to hear which bandwagon I'm on.

Twins?
Vikings?
UNI?
Tottenham?
Other?

I don't know, which one did you decide on? You said you were leaning towards the Packers, but I think you had your eyes set on a couple AFC teams too.

[SDHornet]

Still waiting to hear which bandwagon I'm on.

Twins?
Vikings?
UNI?
Tottenham?
Other?

I don't know, which one did you decide on? You said you were leaning towards the Packers, but I think you had your eyes set on a couple AFC teams too.

Give it a fucking rest SE.

Anyone else think Manning is having trouble throwing the ball down the field? He can't seem to get much going.

[Grizalltheway]

Other than the INT, Luck has looked much better so far. Consider this the official changing of the guard.

[clenz]

I don't know, which one did you decide on? You said you were leaning towards the Packers, but I think you had your eyes set on a couple AFC teams too.

Give it a fucking rest SE.

Anyone else think Manning is having trouble throwing the ball down the field? He can't seem to get much going.

He can't. His entire life revolves around trolling message boards and being "superfan" screamingeagle

[tribe_pride]

I don't like the way the rule is written but the refs ruled correctly based on how it is written. If you catch the ball as you are going down (even if you take 2 or 3 steps), you still have to make the football move for the ball to be considered caught if the ground jars it loose.

[VictorG]

Bryant caught the ball at the high point. Shields knocked it out of his hands after that, then Bryant regained control but that cost him his 1st step ...IMO that made the difference.

[dbackjon]

Cowboys fans, your tears are delicious.

Live by the refs. Die by the refs

[SuperHornet]

Personally, I don't think the "going to the ground" rule applies because Bryant took THREE steps in moving toward the goal line. Accepting that it DOES apply only makes the situation worse for the NFL because the ball never touched the ground. The impact in the area of the ball was strictly on the ARM, NOT the ball. The ball went straight into the air; it did NOT strike the ground. No pass is incomplete until the ball touches the ground. Bryant actually re-caught the ball. And where was he when he re-caught it? Oh, yeah, he was on his back IN THE END ZONE.

So either way you wanna take that play, the zebras robbed the Cowboys of the game-winning touchdown. Dean Blandino is a freaking idiot....

[clenz]

I don't like the way the rule is written but the refs ruled correctly based on how it is written. If you catch the ball as you are going down (even if you take 2 or 3 steps), you still have to make the football move for the ball to be considered caught if the ground jars it loose.

I don't disagree the rule was interpreted correctly, i disagree with the rule.

Technically there should never be a fumble on a pass play by this rule, and 93s opinion. After all, it doesn't matter if you run 50 yards while grabbing your nuts and spinning circles. the ball came out when you hit the ground. Incomplete

[SDHornet]

CBS ref analysis says the punt returner had to show a football move in order to show he had possession prior to the fumble. WTF?

*I am referring to the Colts - Broncos game.

[clenz]

FWIW I was pulling for Green Bay...oh know im a bandwagon fan now...i just think it was a catch

[kalm]

CBS ref analysis says the punt returner had to show a football move in order to show he had possession prior to the fumble. WTF?

*I am referring to the Colts - Broncos game.

Crumbling to the ground in the fetal position is not a football move?

[SDHornet]

Luck with another INT on a deep up for grabs throw.

[kalm]

Give it a fucking rest SE.

Anyone else think Manning is having trouble throwing the ball down the field? He can't seem to get much going.

He can't. His entire life revolves around trolling message boards and being "superfan" screamingeagle

I hate guys like that...

[SDHornet]

CBS ref analysis says the punt returner had to show a football move in order to show he had possession prior to the fumble. WTF?

*I am referring to the Colts - Broncos game.

Crumbling to the ground in the fetal position is not a football move?

Apparently not, even though he was clearly down with possession. Fumble should have stood no?

[kalm]

Crumbling to the ground in the fetal position is not a football move?

Apparently not, even though he was clearly down with possession. Fumble should have stood no?

Yes...he hadn't taken any steps yet.

[SDHornet]

Apparently not, even though he was clearly down with possession. Fumble should have stood no?

Yes...he hadn't taken any steps yet.