Tressel lied to tOSU, NCAA - on his way out?

[TwinTownBisonFan]

dude - it's not like you're an alum of OSU... Tressel got busted - that's a fact... and he got off light... slap on the wrist worthy of an SEC or Big 12 program...

be pissed if you'd like that he either a) did it or b) got caught i guess... but to dismiss it as "nothing" because you like the Bucks seems... absurd. Put the shoe on the other foot dude - was what happened at USC "between Pete Carroll and the school and the NCAA?"?

[Willie]

WHEN did I dismiss it as nothing? The man had to pay $250,000 in fines. That is hardly a slap on the wrist. I, as well as most people in the U.S., won't even make that much in 5 years.

[TwinTownBisonFan]

WHEN did I dismiss it as nothing? The man had to pay $250,000 in fines. That is hardly a slap on the wrist. I, as well as most people in the U.S., won't even make that much in 5 years.

when you make $3 million a year... it works out to 1 months pay...

[Willie]

Which is where I bring my argument about athletes and coaches being way overpaid back in.

But I'm bowing out of this thread. After Skjellyfetti's comment, it makes me sick.

[TwinTownBisonFan]

Which is where I bring my argument about athletes and coaches being way overpaid back in.

But I'm bowing out of this thread. After Skjellyfetti's comment, it makes me sick.

Fair enough.

[Ursus A. Horribilis]

Total lack of integrity man. I really wouldn't have thought it was in Tressel's nature even a few years back.

It is a slap on the wrist at best and that's apparently good enough for the NCAA and Ohio State. That part isn't real shocking I guess.

[DJH]

For your reading pleasure.

http://www.610wtvn.com/pages/template/t ... ch2011.pdf

[Skjellyfetti]

Our rings arrive this week for 2009 Big Ten ... any names from our last discussion?? I would like to hold some collateral if you know what I mean. jt

[DJH]

https://www.nmnathletics.com//pdf8/7457 ... M_ID=17300

Basically are calling him a serial liar in this letter. How a football coach can survive something like this is wrong and embarrassing.

LMAO, at "several games" being referenced at the beginning of the letter, and turning into "2" games at the end of the letter.

[Skjellyfetti]

Wow... borderline impeding a federal investigation... encouraging coverup and reclaiming of evidence.

Too bad Willie likes the taste of Tressel's dick to much to see how insane it is that he still has a job.

[TwinTownBisonFan]

Wow... borderline impeding a federal investigation... encouraging coverup and reclaiming of evidence.

Too bad Willie likes the taste of Tressel's dick to much to see how insane it is that he still has a job.

maybe you've made enough references to Jim Tressel's penis for one thread, eh Jelly?

[Skjellyfetti]

maybe you've made enough references to Jim Tressel's penis for one thread, eh Jelly?

I wonder if Dick Tressel steps in as interim coach.

[dbackjon]

Without a doubt Tressell is a slime ball that needs to be fired.


Ohio State should have to forfeit all of 2010, as well.

Lack of institutional control.

Quite obvious to anyone with a brain.

[CitadelGrad]

Just not sure why people give a fuck. It's between him, the University and the NCAA.

If people like you made the decisions, there would be no sports, period.

Who are you trying to fool? If this had happened at Michigan, you and the other Suckeye kool-aid drinkers would be all over this like white on rice.

[HI54UNI]

Can the sweater vest start a "legal defense" fund to accept donations to pay his legal bills and fines like many politicians do? If he can they'll probably raise his $250K fine in less than a week.

[BlueHen86]

Ohio State is an embarassment. What a joke. The kids get 5 games, the coach who tried to cover it up only gets 2? Way to go Ohio St, I hope they can beat Akron and Littlle Sisters of the Poor without Tressel at the helm. The cover up by a coach is a lot worse than what the kids did. I gotta think the NCAA will have more to say about this.

No way I'd let my kids play for Tressel or Ohio St.

Cheaters.

[TwinTownBisonFan]

Ohio State is an embarassment. What a joke. The kids get 5 games, the coach who tried to cover it up only gets 2? Way to go Ohio St, I hope they can beat Akron and Littlle Sisters of the Poor without Tressel at the helm. The cover up by a coach is a lot worse than what the kids did. I gotta think the NCAA will have more to say about this.

No way I'd let my kids play for Tressel or Ohio St.

Cheaters.

I guess that's my complaint.

IMO the crime isn't frankly as bad as the cover-up. Moreover - he's the coach, he's "supposed to know better"

[clenz]

Just not sure why people give a fuck. It's between him, the University and the NCAA.

If people like you made the decisions, there would be no sports, period.

Who are you trying to fool? If this had happened at Michigan, you and the other Suckeye kool-aid drinkers would be all over this like white on rice.

They were. Look no further back than Rich Rod's invesitation for practice too many hours in the off season. Go read some of the blogs, commentary, and other shit that Fuckeye fans spewed out.


The fact is that Tressel, and pretty much every OSU, is scummy as fuck.

[AshevilleApp]

I like this thread!

[bluehenbillk]

Not a lot different here than what USC did. Tressel knew before the season started these kids probably weren't "eligible", but yet he played them & they played in the Sugar Bowl & got millions of coin for doing it.

The NCAA hasn't ruled on this yet,but the MINIMUM I'd think OSU would get hit with is no bowl game this year....

[clenz]

http://www.dispatch.com/live/content/sp ... ml?sid=101" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

OSU football: Source of e-mails to Tressel revealed
Columbus lawyer was a walk-on at Ohio State in the '80s
Thursday, March 10, 2011 04:21 AM
By Tim May, Jill Riepenhoff, Mike Wagner and Randy Ludlow
THE COLUMBUS DISPATCH

Columbus lawyer Christopher T. Cicero was a minor figure as a walk-on football player in the 1980s at Ohio State University.

Today, he is a central player in a scandal that has tarnished Jim Tressel, the man who then was one of his assistant coaches and is now the head coach.

Cicero, 54, sent Tressel e-mails last spring warning that some of the current players were selling memorabilia to a tattoo-parlor owner who's under federal investigation.

Those e-mails are proof that Tressel knew of possible NCAA violations and failed to report the information to Ohio State officials, leading the university to impose a two-game suspension and a $250,000 fine as punishment.

Ohio State would not divulge Cicero's name, blacking out all identifying information from the e-mails it made public Tuesday.

But three sources had confirmed to The Dispatch by early last evening that the e-mails had been sent by Cicero, a lawyer with a checkered past who represented the tattoo-parlor owner, Edward Rife, in 2003 when Rife was a key witness in a murder trial.

Once Cicero's name was reported in a story on Dispatch.com last night, he issued a statement, saying he was not the source that Yahoo Sports cited in originally reporting that Tressel had prior knowledge of possible player misconduct. Cicero said he has cooperated with Ohio State and NCAA investigators but had no other comment.

The first e-mail Cicero sent, on April 2, alerted Tressel that players were selling autographed memorabilia and championship rings to Rife and that some items had been seized during a federal raid of Rife's home.

In an April 16 e-mail, Cicero shared what he described as "confidential" information. Cicero wrote that Rife had visited him the night before and told him that he had "about 15 pairs of cleats with signatures, 4-5 jerseys - all signed by players. He told me he has about nine Big Ten championship rings."

Tressel said he kept the information to himself to protect the confidentiality of the federal investigation and for the safety of his players. The decision to not inform OSU or NCAA officials led to the punishment.

The NCAA could choose to further punish Tressel and the football program. Ohio State's self-imposed penalties fall short of those faced by others who have broken the same NCAA bylaw in recent years, according to a Dispatch review of past disciplinary actions.

Since 2006, the NCAA has sanctioned 27 schools for violating bylaw 10.1, which requires coaches and others to be truthful and forthcoming about possible NCAA violations. Of the 12 coaches involved, only one kept his job. The others either resigned or were fired by their schools.

Former men's basketball coach Jim O'Brien, one of his assistant coaches and former football running back Maurice Clarett each faced unethical-conduct charges by the NCAA. It cost all of them their careers at Ohio State.

A person with experience in such NCAA matters said he thinks OSU might have been too lenient.

"Just looking at it, it may seem a little light, especially in light of the fact Tressel didn't report it to the university within a reasonable period of time," said Michael Buckner, who heads a law firm that helps schools deal with the NCAA.

OSU suspended Tressel for the first two games of the 2011 season, against Akron and Toledo. He can have no contact with his team or coaches on game day, nor can he be on the premises. The $250,000 fine represents a little more than 7 percent of Tressel's $3.5 million annual salary.

Quarterback Terrelle Pryor, running back Daniel Herron, receiver DeVier Posey, offensive tackle Mike Adams and defensive end Solomon Thomas are scheduled to serve five-game suspensions to start the 2011 season for their dealings with Rife.

Tressel didn't speak with the Ohio State compliance office or his superiors about the e-mails until they were discovered in early January as officials prepared the appeal of the players' penalties. He also signed a compliance form on Sept. 13 that said he had no knowledge of possible violations.

"In those periods when he had an opportunity and a duty to disclose, he failed to do so," Buckner said. "I think the NCAA could also come back and add failure to monitor or failure to promote an atmosphere of compliance. Those are program violations.

"With those three (including the bylaw 10.1 violation), you could look at the two-game suspension and the fine to be the minimum."

If the NCAA enforcement division endorses the school's findings, it would send the case to the committee on infractions, which could agree with the penalties or make them more severe. The enforcement division also could say it needs to investigate further.

Cicero's attempts to help the football program weren't his first. He represented former receiver Santonio Holmes in 2003 in a disorderly-conduct case that ultimately was dismissed.

Cicero, who enrolled at OSU after serving in the Marines, has made news as a criminal-defense lawyer.

In 1997, the Ohio Supreme Court suspended his law license for one year because of misconduct. The lawyer led others to believe he was having sex with then-Judge Deborah P. O'Neill, who had appointed Cicero to defend a client in a criminal case.

Cicero ultimately said he overstated his intimacy with the judge and that he and O'Neill did not have sex until she stepped aside from the case. O'Neill also admitted to the sexual affair.

Former Ohio State coach Earle Bruce said yesterday that Cicero was a good "team player" for him in the early 1980s and that they remain friends.

He said he believes Cicero was trying to help the Ohio State program when he sent the e-mails to Tressel.

"He's a nice guy and certainly wouldn't want to harm Ohio State in any way," he said.

Bruce also defended Tressel and said he was trying to protect the players the way former Ohio State coaches would have done.

"I wouldn't turn in players. I would try to help them, and coach (Woody) Hayes did the same thing."

Hayes, Bruce said, once refused to cooperate with the NCAA after it learned that the coach had given several players $20.

"No coach at Ohio State, and I mean none, has ever done more for the program on and off the field than coach Tressel," Bruce said.

[MrTitleist]

Clenz, you forgot to link your article.. please do so.. just to keep us out of hot water.

[clenz]

Clenz, you forgot to link your article.. please do so.. just to keep us out of hot water.

Will do. I thought it was at the bottom.

[clenz]

I got that article linked from Bob Feldman's twitter. He later tweeted this as a follow up
BFeldmanESPN Bruce Feldman
Shirley Walker, the 1 coach not forced out for violating Bylaw 10.1, won 11 league titles & was fired at Alcorn 2 yrs later for losing rcd.

[Ivytalk]

2 game suspension. WAFJ

Anyone see him make a fool out of himself, and everyone else for that matter, in the press conf today?

True dat.