Cluck U wrote:Who wrestles anymore?
Title IX has decimated the wrestling college ranks...so I blame this on the chicks.
Cluck is WRONG. That answer is too simplistic. It's the negative reaction to a positive problem that idiot ADs make. It's the EASY way out, and one that was NOT intended by Title IX. The PROPER response would be to ADD women's sports, NOT drop men's sports.BlueHen86 wrote:Cluck U wrote:Who wrestles anymore?
Title IX has decimated the wrestling college ranks...so I blame this on the chicks.
There are still well over 200 college programs, probably closer to 250. I agree that Title IX has really hurt the sport. UD had wrestling when I was there.
B.S. Women don't care as much about sports. But they like taking advantage of the schollies. If you are pro-competition and equality, women should have been able to compete and raise interest at a similar level. They can't.SuperHornet wrote:Cluck is WRONG. That answer is too simplistic. It's the negative reaction to a positive problem that idiot ADs make. It's the EASY way out, and one that was NOT intended by Title IX. The PROPER response would be to ADD women's sports, NOT drop men's sports.BlueHen86 wrote:
There are still well over 200 college programs, probably closer to 250. I agree that Title IX has really hurt the sport. UD had wrestling when I was there.
86, of course, is correct.
Adding women's sports was the desired result, but it isn't what happened. Adding sports would have meant increasing a schools budget, instead many schools decided to keep the budget the same and replace men's sports with women's sports in order to come into compliance.SuperHornet wrote:Cluck is WRONG. That answer is too simplistic. It's the negative reaction to a positive problem that idiot ADs make. It's the EASY way out, and one that was NOT intended by Title IX. The PROPER response would be to ADD women's sports, NOT drop men's sports.BlueHen86 wrote:
There are still well over 200 college programs, probably closer to 250. I agree that Title IX has really hurt the sport. UD had wrestling when I was there.
86, of course, is correct.
EWU had a DII national championship in wrestling (79 I think) and was PAC-10 North in baseball before title 9. Both sports were dropped.BlueHen86 wrote:Adding women's sports was the desired result, but it isn't what happened. Adding sports would have meant increasing a schools budget, instead many schools decided to keep the budget the same and replace men's sports with women's sports in order to come into compliance.SuperHornet wrote:
Cluck is WRONG. That answer is too simplistic. It's the negative reaction to a positive problem that idiot ADs make. It's the EASY way out, and one that was NOT intended by Title IX. The PROPER response would be to ADD women's sports, NOT drop men's sports.
86, of course, is correct.
Women's wrestling is a growing sport, but it is growing at time when the economy is bad, so schools are not quick to add it. Dropping the sport from the Olympics will make schools even lsee likely to add wrestling - men's or women's
Kudos 86!BlueHen86 wrote:My son doesn't have Olympic aspirations, but he commited to wrestle for Franklin & Marshall College yesterday.
F&M is located in Lancaster PA, about an hour from where we live. It is D-I for wrestling, D-III for everything else. They wrestle in the EIWA conference, along with the 6 Ivy league schools that have wrestling (Columbia, Princeton, Brown, Cornell, Penn and Harvard), Navy, Army, Lehigh, Bucknell, Rutgers, American and Sacred Heart. Rutgers will be leaving to join the Big 10 next year.
Thanks. Glad that I won't have to travel that far to see him wrestle.kalm wrote:Kudos 86!BlueHen86 wrote:My son doesn't have Olympic aspirations, but he commited to wrestle for Franklin & Marshall College yesterday.
F&M is located in Lancaster PA, about an hour from where we live. It is D-I for wrestling, D-III for everything else. They wrestle in the EIWA conference, along with the 6 Ivy league schools that have wrestling (Columbia, Princeton, Brown, Cornell, Penn and Harvard), Navy, Army, Lehigh, Bucknell, Rutgers, American and Sacred Heart. Rutgers will be leaving to join the Big 10 next year.
Hard to believe that it was even up for consideration of being dropped, let along actually getting the ax. Clearly there was a lot of politics involved.Benne wrote:Fucking travesty.
But can he beat Dad?BlueHen86 wrote:My son doesn't have Olympic aspirations, but he commited to wrestle for Franklin & Marshall College yesterday.
F&M is located in Lancaster PA, about an hour from where we live. It is D-I for wrestling, D-III for everything else. They wrestle in the EIWA conference, along with the 6 Ivy league schools that have wrestling (Columbia, Princeton, Brown, Cornell, Penn and Harvard), Navy, Army, Lehigh, Bucknell, Rutgers, American and Sacred Heart. Rutgers will be leaving to join the Big 10 next year.
Yes. I'm 50, he's 18. I have weight on him, but that is probably my only advantage. I'd probalby run out of gas in 20 seconds and it would get real ugly from there.SuperHornet wrote:But can he beat Dad?BlueHen86 wrote:My son doesn't have Olympic aspirations, but he commited to wrestle for Franklin & Marshall College yesterday.
F&M is located in Lancaster PA, about an hour from where we live. It is D-I for wrestling, D-III for everything else. They wrestle in the EIWA conference, along with the 6 Ivy league schools that have wrestling (Columbia, Princeton, Brown, Cornell, Penn and Harvard), Navy, Army, Lehigh, Bucknell, Rutgers, American and Sacred Heart. Rutgers will be leaving to join the Big 10 next year.
Congrats, 86! I hope he gets a schollie out of the deal and make things easier for you. At least you have a reason to go to wrestling meets now. I'd love for 86 Jr to win a league title or better.
Do you REALLY want to go there, SD? Flacco got smacked around before the Super Bowl for dropping the R-word.SDHornet wrote:Removing wrestling from the Olympics is just plain retarded.
It's called Kung FuIvytalk wrote:What the hell is wushu? A Chinese appetizer?
There's a pretty strong feeling within the wrestling community that FILA (the organization that governs wrestling) ignored the warnings and really screwed the pooch on this one. There was also internal politics and conflicts of interest (for example, Juan Antonio Samaranch Jr.is a member of the IOC board and vice president of the International Modern Pentathlon Union).BlueHen86 wrote:Hard to believe that it was even up for consideration of being dropped, let along actually getting the ax. Clearly there was a lot of politics involved.Benne wrote:**** travesty.
If Synchronized Stupidity was a sport, the IOC would win.
FWIW, lots of straight men in this country have problems with gay men, but give them lipstick lesbians... just sayin.grizzaholic wrote:
Huh? You have to have a bigger window than just right now. Compare the number of women's sports, and the women competing in them, with the number of sports and participants just before Title IX was passed. It's not even a question that the the amount of sports and opportunities exploded with the passage of Title IX. It's only been in the past decade or two that money strapped schools have started to meet the ratio requirement by cutting men's sports. And considering that football loses money at all but maybe 50 colleges in America you still have a find a way to answer that question of how come so many schollies are tied up in a men's sport that doesn't often cover its own costs and seems to be on a path to increase expenses year after year that we don't blame football for causing the cessation of other men's sports like wrestling.BlueHen86 wrote: Adding women's sports was the desired result, but it isn't what happened.
