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bluehenbillk wrote:I'll agree that the NHL playoffs as a whole are better than the NBA. However, the NBA Finals are most always more entertaining than the Stanley Cup because in the NBA the two best or better teams are normally playing for the title. I'm sorry but a Cavs-Warriors title match up completely dwarves the Lightning & Blackhawks.
I get what you're saying, but it also sounds like you're saying you might be happier if #1 in the west played #1 in the east... ergo, skip the playoffs. The ONLY reason Cavs/Warriors is a sexier match-up is Lebron vs Curry

I watched the last 8 minutes of the game last night. That's more NBA than I watched all year. It was very entertaining, but I still could do without so many timeouts. The NHL has put rules into place where it's hard to stop the game without some kind of detriment to your team (icing can't change players, clear it over the glass is a 2 minute penalty, etc...). IMO that's a good thing. The TO's in bball are more akin to the absolute disgusting stuff they do at the end of a soccer game to milk the clock.
Been to a lot of hockey games, where the crowd gets anxious for the play to resume after a stoppage, due to TV commercials. It's down right painful waiting for play to resume. That's today's professional sports, money before customer satisfaction.
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Gil Dobie wrote:Been to a lot of hockey games, where the crowd gets anxious for the play to resume after a stoppage, due to TV commercials. It's down right painful waiting for play to resume. That's today's professional sports, money before customer satisfaction.
3 TV stoppages (while play is stopped) per period is tolerable. 16 timeouts per game in NBA is not.
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And in the NHL playoff OTs, there are no commercial breaks. Just the first stoppage after the 10 minute mark to quickly wipe off the ice and then start up again.

I have to say that I am normally not a fan of NBA but the finals has been exciting (as opposed to the rest of the playoffs) even despite some very poor play. A lot of it might be the excitement of seeing the undermanned Cavs from the championshipless hole known as Cleveland trying to take it to the best team in the league with the best player in the league trying to carry a number of role players and former Knicks (meaning worse than role players) to a championship.
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Gil Dobie wrote:Been to a lot of hockey games, where the crowd gets anxious for the play to resume after a stoppage, due to TV commercials. It's down right painful waiting for play to resume. That's today's professional sports, money before customer satisfaction.
3 TV stoppages (while play is stopped) per period is tolerable. 16 timeouts per game in NBA is not.

Yet another reason why college bball is better than the nba. Now only 4 TO per game with 3 max in the 2nd half. :thumb:

As for the series, give credit to the Cavs D. The Cavs have been playing out of their minds, but if the 4th quarter of last night's game is any indication, Curry might have finally woken up.
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Gil Dobie wrote:Been to a lot of hockey games, where the crowd gets anxious for the play to resume after a stoppage, due to TV commercials. It's down right painful waiting for play to resume. That's today's professional sports, money before customer satisfaction.
3 TV stoppages (while play is stopped) per period is tolerable. 16 timeouts per game in NBA is not.
DVR is a wonderful thing when watching at home. Only have to fast forward thru breaks. Being at the arena is different. NHL has a hard time coming up with entertainment for the crowd. NBA has entertainment at almost every break. I've had season tickets in the past, to both the Wild and Timberwolves, so I am basing it on that experience. Either sport is much better than the NFL though.
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89Hen wrote: 3 TV stoppages (while play is stopped) per period is tolerable. 16 timeouts per game in NBA is not.
DVR is a wonderful thing when watching at home. Only have to fast forward thru breaks. Being at the arena is different. NHL has a hard time coming up with entertainment for the crowd. NBA has entertainment at almost every break. I've had season tickets in the past, to both the Wild and Timberwolves, so I am basing it on that experience. Either sport is much better than the NFL though.
Mites (youngest age group of hockey players) playing hockey between periods is pretty awesome.
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Gil Dobie wrote:Being at the arena is different. NHL has a hard time coming up with entertainment for the crowd. NBA has entertainment at almost every break. I've had season tickets in the past, to both the Wild and Timberwolves, so I am basing it on that experience.
I can't recall a time I've ever been to an NHL game where I found myself looking for entertainment. :suspicious:
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89Hen wrote:
Gil Dobie wrote:Being at the arena is different. NHL has a hard time coming up with entertainment for the crowd. NBA has entertainment at almost every break. I've had season tickets in the past, to both the Wild and Timberwolves, so I am basing it on that experience.
I can't recall a time I've ever been to an NHL game where I found myself looking for entertainment. :suspicious:
I'm not looking for entertainment either, just thought you were by the way you mentioned that you disliked the stoppages of play. Heck, I have never participated in the wave, I'm there to watch the game.
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Gil Dobie wrote:I'm not looking for entertainment either, just thought you were by the way you mentioned that you disliked the stoppages of play. Heck, I have never participated in the wave, I'm there to watch the game.
I dislike them from a sporting standpoint. To me it's like somebody saying "WHOA!! This is getting too exciting. Let's take it down a notch." :thumbdown:
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Warriors win by 19, series tied at 2 a piece

Iguodala will be the reason they win this series and right now should be Finals MVP.
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DSUrocks07 wrote:Warriors win by 19, series tied at 2 a piece

Iguodala will be the reason they win this series and right now should be Finals MVP.
Yup. The Cavs got slapped around pretty good tonight. The Cavs just can't score and don't have the depth to hang with GS.
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Was just a matter of time with all of their injuries that they will get tired. Will be interesting to see if the extra days rest will help them.
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They should put a shock collar on Lebron and give him a jolt anytime that he settles for an outside jumper. His shot is just terrible. He's unstoppable when he backs his guy down or just flat out drives to the hoop. He should do that every single play without fail. If he's tired let someone else bring the ball up and use up the first half of the shot clock, then get him the ball. Golden State doesn't really deny so getting the ball back is pretty easy. He's just not a threat from 10 feet out or more. Use your strength (which is literally his strength in this case) and get to the rim.

Still amazing that Curry is getting handled by Dellavadova (sp) - that's really been the story of the series. He's in Curry's head now too. Better night for Curry last night, but he still looks flustered out there. If it wasn't for Iggy really stepping it up, and hitting some big shots, you wonder if they still would've been able to wear down the Cavs last night.
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Still amazing that Curry is getting handled by Dellavadova (sp) - that's really been the story of the series. He's in Curry's head now too. Better night for Curry last night, but he still looks flustered out there. If it wasn't for Iggy really stepping it up, and hitting some big shots, you wonder if they still would've been able to wear down the Cavs last night.
Plus the double and triple teams when Curry gets the ball in half-court. Deli is looking pretty tired too, but he gives it all.
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GannonFan wrote:
Still amazing that Curry is getting handled by Dellavadova (sp) - that's really been the story of the series. He's in Curry's head now too. Better night for Curry last night, but he still looks flustered out there. If it wasn't for Iggy really stepping it up, and hitting some big shots, you wonder if they still would've been able to wear down the Cavs last night.
Plus the double and triple teams when Curry gets the ball in half-court. Deli is looking pretty tired too, but he gives it all.
That's when he gets the ball - they're doing a good job of denying him the ball in the half court with just one guy. There's still at least 2 more games to play and the narrative could change, but Curry has come up real small in this series.
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GannonFan wrote:They should put a shock collar on Lebron and give him a jolt anytime that he settles for an outside jumper. His shot is just terrible. He's unstoppable when he backs his guy down or just flat out drives to the hoop. He should do that every single play without fail. If he's tired let someone else bring the ball up and use up the first half of the shot clock, then get him the ball. Golden State doesn't really deny so getting the ball back is pretty easy. He's just not a threat from 10 feet out or more. Use your strength (which is literally his strength in this case) and get to the rim.
Agreed though after I said that to someone at half time of Game 3 (as well as saying that Dellavadova should never take any shot), both guys shot well in the 2nd half. Game 4, both guys went back to their normal shooting.
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Gil Dobie wrote:
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Still amazing that Curry is getting handled by Dellavadova (sp) - that's really been the story of the series. He's in Curry's head now too. Better night for Curry last night, but he still looks flustered out there. If it wasn't for Iggy really stepping it up, and hitting some big shots, you wonder if they still would've been able to wear down the Cavs last night.
Plus the double and triple teams when Curry gets the ball in half-court. Deli is looking pretty tired too, but he gives it all.
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Gil Dobie wrote:
GannonFan wrote:
Still amazing that Curry is getting handled by Dellavadova (sp) - that's really been the story of the series. He's in Curry's head now too. Better night for Curry last night, but he still looks flustered out there. If it wasn't for Iggy really stepping it up, and hitting some big shots, you wonder if they still would've been able to wear down the Cavs last night.
Plus the double and triple teams when Curry gets the ball in half-court. Deli is looking pretty tired too, but he gives it all.
Deli killed the Cavs last night. Sure he made things harder for Curry on the other end, but he was dreadful on offense.
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SDHornet wrote:
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Plus the double and triple teams when Curry gets the ball in half-court. Deli is looking pretty tired too, but he gives it all.
Deli killed the Cavs last night. Sure he made things harder for Curry on the other end, but he was dreadful on offense.
He's just a Curry-stopper. He shouldn't shoot, just pass the ball to Lebron with 10 on the clock and let Lebron muscle his way to the hoop (see post above, Lebron should have to pay a fine everytime he shoots from more than 10 feet out).
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Unbelievable last night that the story of the game was no other than Andre Iguodala. Getting his 1st start of the year, & doing what NOBODY would've expected - matchup & OUTPLAY LeBron. Certainly didn't see that happening.

The Cavs looked tired & disinterested at times last night, which I can't understand really. If they won last night I think they win the series - couldn't see Golden St win 3 in a row.

Looking like a 7 game tussle now boys.
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bluehenbillk wrote:Unbelievable last night that the story of the game was no other than Andre Iguodala. Getting his 1st start of the year, & doing what NOBODY would've expected - matchup & OUTPLAY LeBron. Certainly didn't see that happening.

The Cavs looked tired & disinterested at times last night, which I can't understand really. If they won last night I think they win the series - couldn't see Golden St win 3 in a row.

Looking like a 7 game tussle now boys.
Tired - yes, Disinterested - no. Remember they started out hot leading 7-0 and then the series caught up with them. Remember that 2 of their 7 players went to the hospital after game 3 for dehydration and an MRI and a third (their only top player) slammed his head into a camera and bloodied himself and they needed to glue him back together after having to have played a physical 142 minutes in the first 3 games (average 47 1/3 minutes per game).

GS should have won this series in 4. They were disinterested the first 3 games. Yesterday was the first game they started to bring it. I see this series going 6 games for the Warriors. If not, they only have themselves to blame. They are supposedly the best team in the NBA playing against a shorthanded team who while Cleveland has the best player on the court is surrounded by a much worse team now that they are missing their 2 and 3 players (4 if you want to count Varejao but he hasn't played since December). If Golden State stops messing around like they have done all series, it is over. Keep Cleveland in it, you never know.
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Curry was insane last night, the Dellavedova experiment ain't working anymore. LeBron meanwhile keeps playing extremely well, but there are teammates of his on the court that are "just out there".

Iguodala needs to shoot a couple hundred FT's before Game 6.
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GannonFan wrote:
SDHornet wrote: Deli killed the Cavs last night. Sure he made things harder for Curry on the other end, but he was dreadful on offense.
He's just a Curry-stopper. He shouldn't shoot, just pass the ball to Lebron with 10 on the clock and let Lebron muscle his way to the hoop (see post above, Lebron should have to pay a fine everytime he shoots from more than 10 feet out).
Curry has consistantly had similar shot attempts and assist each game. It's tougher having to dribble around 2 -3 defenders to create a shot or pass, than plowing thru them like Lebron does.
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bluehenbillk wrote:Curry was insane last night, the Dellavedova experiment ain't working anymore. LeBron meanwhile keeps playing extremely well, but there are teammates of his on the court that are "just out there".

Iguodala needs to shoot a couple hundred FT's before Game 6.
Lebron is playing with the 13-14 Knicks and Miami Heat players that weren't good enough to see the court in Miami the last couple years but Lebron likes them so he brought them along for a ride.

This is the Cavs roster....

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Not sure why the Cavs went small last night. That played right into GS's hand...probably didn't matter though, the Cavs are completely out of gas. GS should wrap this thing up in C-Town.
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