Just since they actually realigned the teams and all the divisions existed in their present stateGannonFan wrote:I bet if we go back to the Shula days we can get the Dan Marino and Jim Kelly impacts as well. Heck, the Jets have a good season here and there, I'm sure we can capture that too.Chizzang wrote:
now do that since 2003 realignment - you'll notice some significant changes in wins
Your claim. You do the work. My stats cover 3 of the Pats SB wins.Chizzang wrote:now do that since 2003 realignment - you'll notice some significant changes in wins
89Hen wrote:Your claim. You do the work. My stats cover 3 of the Pats SB wins.Chizzang wrote:now do that since 2003 realignment - you'll notice some significant changes in wins
So now it's not important. Check.Chizzang wrote:89Hen wrote: Your claim. You do the work. My stats cover 3 of the Pats SB wins.
It's not actually important
I know the claim made by Gannon and 93 is bunk
because I've seen the data from both Peter King and PFF
They don't even believe it - they already know it's not accurate - they say it to annoy me
PFF has the AFC East ranked in the middle
with 3 divisions better and 4 worse since realignment
I'm right - they're wrong...89Hen wrote:So now it's not important. Check.Chizzang wrote:
It's not actually important
I know the claim made by Gannon and 93 is bunk
because I've seen the data from both Peter King and PFF
They don't even believe it - they already know it's not accurate - they say it to annoy me
PFF has the AFC East ranked in the middle
with 3 divisions better and 4 worse since realignment
Are we speaking metaphorically like 93 and Gannon89Hen wrote:When was the AFC East the best division in football?
How about in reality?Chizzang wrote:Are we speaking metaphorically like 93 and Gannon89Hen wrote:When was the AFC East the best division in football?
or statistically ?
Factually. Seems you want to claim facts, but don't present any. I presented some facts that didn't jibe with your story.Chizzang wrote:Are we speaking metaphorically like 93 and Gannon89Hen wrote:When was the AFC East the best division in football?
or statistically ?
93's reality is that the AFC East sucksIbanez wrote:How about in reality?Chizzang wrote:
Are we speaking metaphorically like 93 and Gannon
or statistically ?
Because they have to play a team that's made 17 playoff appearances in the last 18 years89Hen wrote:Buffalo Bills - 1 playoff appearance since 2000
Miami Dolphins - 2 playoff appearances since 2002
What's your point exactly..?89Hen wrote:Eagles 12 since 2000.
Cowboys 7 since 2003.
Giants 7 since 2002.
Redskins 4 since 2005 and they suck.
Dolphins - no playoff wins since 2002Chizzang wrote:The AFC East is far and away the best Playoff Division in NFL history
Parody would explain 19 playoff trips (different division winner every year). I count 30 above.Chizzang wrote:What's your point exactly..?89Hen wrote:Eagles 12 since 2000.
Cowboys 7 since 2003.
Giants 7 since 2002.
Redskins 4 since 2005 and they suck.
That there is parody in the NFC East..?
Lets state the point that we're trying to make
because random NFL information is nice but what is the POINT exactly
My point has already been proven...
I'm still trying to figure out what your point is..?89Hen wrote:Parody would explain 19 playoff trips (different division winner every year). I count 30 above.Chizzang wrote:
What's your point exactly..?
That there is parody in the NFC East..?
Lets state the point that we're trying to make
because random NFL information is nice but what is the POINT exactly
My point has already been proven...
1. That you have yet to back this up...Chizzang wrote:Could you make a list of the points you'd like to make?
2. That the Bills and Dolphins are two of the worst teams in the NFL since 2000-2002 ish.Chizzang wrote:add up the wins and losses since the realignment
and remove the winningest team from each division the AFC east has the 2nd most wins
So who’s worse...89Hen wrote:Parody would explain 19 playoff trips (different division winner every year). I count 30 above.Chizzang wrote:
What's your point exactly..?
That there is parody in the NFC East..?
Lets state the point that we're trying to make
because random NFL information is nice but what is the POINT exactly
My point has already been proven...
This year? NFC East.kalm wrote:So who’s worse...89Hen wrote: Parody would explain 19 playoff trips (different division winner every year). I count 30 above.
NFC East
AFC East
Big Sky Conference?
More like89Hen wrote:
2. That the Bills and Dolphins are two of the worst teams in the NFL since 2000-2002 ish.
Of course the Pats are that high, the play Miami and Buffalo about 2x a year.Chizzang wrote:More like89Hen wrote:
2. That the Bills and Dolphins are two of the worst teams in the NFL since 2000-2002 ish.
a) Middle and
b) bottom 1/3rd
which proves my point again... (blind bias on your part)
and by the end of this season the Bills will surpass the Redskins in wins since 2000
NFL wins since 2000-current (Including playoffs):
1.) New England Patriots- 209 (22 playoff wins)
2.) Indianapolis Colts- 180 (12 playoff wins)
3.) Pittsburgh Steelers- 177 (13 playoff wins)
4.) Green Bay Packers- 171 (11 playoff wins)
5.) Baltimore Ravens- 164 (15 playoff wins)
6.) Philadelphia Eagles- 162 (10 playoff wins)
7.) Denver Broncos- 159 (6 playoff wins)
8.) Seattle Seahawks- 155 (13 playoff wins)
9.) New Orleans Saints- 146 ( 7 playoff wins)
10.) New York Giants-145 (10 playoff wins)
11.) San Diego Chargers- 134 ( 3 playoff wins)
12.) Carolina Panthers-133 (8 playoff wins)
13.) Chicago Bears- 132 ( 3 playoff wins)
13.) Atlanta Falcons- 132 ( 3 playoff wins)
14.) New York Jets- 130 (6 playoff wins)
15.) Dallas Cowboys- 129 ( 2 playoff wins)
15.) Minnesota Vikings- 129 (3 playoff wins)
16.) Tennessee Titans- 125 ( 2 playoff wins)
17.) Cincinnati Bengals- 123
18,) Miami Dolphins- 121 ( 1 playoff win)
19.) San Francisco 49ers- 119 ( 6 playoff wins)
19.) Kansas City Chiefs- 119 (1 playoff win)
20.) Arizona Cardinals- 117 ( 5 playoff wins)
21.) Tampa Bay Buccaneers- 114 ( 3 playoff wins)
22.) St. Louis Rams- 110 (3 playoff wins)
23.) Washington Redskins- 107 ( 1 playoff win)
24.) Jacksonville Jaguars- 104 ( 1 playoff win)
25.) Buffalo Bills- 104
26.) Houston Texans- 98 ( 2 playoff wins)
27.) Oakland Raiders- 95 ( 3 playoff wins)
28.) Detroit Lions- 86
29.) Cleveland Browns- 85
