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How does your state HS football playoffs go?

Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 9:39 pm
by T-Dog
The NCHSAA had the wonderful idea of taking the top 64 in each of 1A, 2A, 3A and 4A (32 from the East Region, 32 from the West Region). So the unspoken rule is that if you reach 4 wins, your qualified for the playoffs. :thumbdown:

So then the schools are listed by enrollment. You then have 8 lists (4A East, 4A West, etc) of 32 teams. The top 16 schools in terms of enrollment are put in the AA playoffs. The bottom 16 in the A playoffs. So then you have 8 playoffs (4AA, 4A, 3AA, 3A, 2AA, 2A, 1AA, 1A). Each region is seed 1-16.

The 8 state finals are then had at Wake Forest, Chapel Hill and NC State (2 at WF, 3 each at Chapel Hill and NC State) on a rotating basis.

So yeah, what is your state system and how much better is it. :nod:

Re: How does your state do HS football playoffs go?

Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 5:56 am
by dgreco
in Rhode Island Divisions 1 - 4, not separated by public or private, but by success... more success you can petition to move up. If you are doing worse they give you the option to move down. This relegation is available for all RI High School sports.

Division 1 - 9 Schools, 3 private 6 public, 4 teams make the playoffs

Division 2 - 16 schools, all public, 8 make the playoffs

Division 3 - 9 schools, 1 private 8 public, 4 make the playoffs

Division 4 - 9 schools, 2 private 7 public, 4 make the playoffs

Re: How does your state do HS football playoffs go?

Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 7:09 am
by andy7171
Schools are separated by enrollment into 4 classes. The state is divided in to 4 regions. Only public schools participate in the playoffs. The best programs are private.

Re: How does your state do HS football playoffs go?

Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 7:41 am
by EPJr

Re: How does your state do HS football playoffs go?

Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 1:20 pm
by jcf5445
Mississippi has 2 statewide associations:

The MHSAA consists of all public schools, Catholic schools, and just a few other private schools that chose not to be associated with the MPSA.

The MAIS (formerly MPSA) is a group of private schools - most of which were originally white-flight schools from the late 60s and early 70s - and about 1/4 of the members are located in Louisiana and Arkansas. It used to have members from Tennessee as well, but not anymore.

The MHSAA expanded to 6 classifications in 2009 (1A-6A). The classifications are decided solely on enrollment. 6A are the largest 32 schools, and 5A are the next 32, each divided into 4 8-team regions. 2A, 3A, and 4A are divided into 8 regions that range from 5 to 7 teams each. 1A is divided into 4 regions ranging from 8 to 10 teams each. The top 4 teams from each region qualify for the playoffs, resulting in a 16 team bracket for 1A, 5A, and 6A and a 32 team bracket in 2A, 3A, and 4A. A few terrible teams make the playoffs, but they're quickly elmininated in the 1st round. I'd rather a few bad teams make it in than see some very good teams get left out in 3-way tiebreakers.

The MAIS has 3 classifications (A, AA, and AAA). The alignment method changes regularly, but for the foreseeable future, Class A and AA will have a 16 team bracket. Class AAA is divided into 2 very small subclasses called Division I (6 teams) and Division II (8 teams) due to large enrollment differences between the largest schools. Each division has a 4 team bracket to determine a "state" championship and there is no overall AAA champion. Class A also has had an 8-Man division since 2007, and had a 4 team playoff bracket in 2009.

So in all, Mississippi ends up with 11 state champions, some more deserving than others.

Re: How does your state do HS football playoffs go?

Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 3:08 pm
by tampajag
Florida has 8 classifications (6A, 5A, 4A, 3A, 2A, 2B, 1A, and 1B) Classifications are grouped by attendance
6A - 82 schools (enrollment 2363-4147)
5A - 65 schools (enrollment 2015-2362)
4A - 70 schools (enrollment 1740-2014)
3A - 92 schools (enrollment 1391-1739)
2A- 39 schools (enrollment 1015-1390)
2B - 49 schools (enrollment 522-1014)
1A - 53 schools (enrollment 259-521)
1B - 54 schools (enrollment 48-258)

The larger classifications (6A-3A) have 32 teams and the smaller classifications (2A-1B) have 16 teams. each bracket is divided into regions North and South. in each region the district winner faces the district runner up (for example district 1 winner would face district 2 runner up). After you win your region you go on to play a state semifinal and the the state final is held in Orlando. The only downside to this is that travel is already predetermined by the region, so some teams can make it to the final without travelling much.

Re: How does your state do HS football playoffs go?

Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 3:17 pm
by danefan
NY has 9 Upstate Sections and then the NYC and Long Island Public and Parochial School Leagues.

Long Island (Section XI), NYC Public and NYC Parochial schools do not participate in the NY State Championship. They have their own championships.

The NY State Championship is contested by the remaining "Upstate" Section. Upstate is essentially anything north of NYC (e.g. from Yonkers to Canada). In the Upstate Tournament, Private and Public schools both participate.

Each Section growns its own champion and participant in the State Tournament for each of 5 Classes (AA, A, B, C, D). AA is the schools with the largest enrollment and D are the smallest. Teams can opt to play up a Class if they want (and some do). Some sections have Sectional Playoffs and some just have a Single championship game for the top 2 teams in each Class. It depends on the number of teams in each Class in the Section.

You can see the bracket here.
http://www.newyorksportswriters.org/bra ... t-aa.shtml

The championship games are played in the Carrier Dome in Syracuse.
The Section champions play in a regionalized bracket of at most 8 teams.

So all in all, NY ends up with 11 Champions:

AA
A
B
C
D
LI Div. I
LI L Div. II
LI Div. III
LI Div. IV
NYC Publics
NYC Parochials

Re: How does your state do HS football playoffs go?

Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 3:30 pm
by tampajag
Louisiana has 5 classifications (5A, 4A, 3A, 2A, 1A) public and private schools compete together.
5A - 57 schools (enrollment 1099 and above)
4A - 56 schools (enrollment 638 - 1098)
3A - 59 schools (enrollment 425 - 637)
2A - 57 schools (enrollment 234 - 424)
1A - 57 schools (enrollment 233 and Below)

Each classification has a 32 team playoff with all finals being held at the SuperDome. All district champs make the playoffs and the rest of the bracket is filled with wildcard teams selected by a committee. The teams are seeded (1-32) using a power rating system.A team’s power rating is the result of the contest plus any additional points for playing a larger classification plus opponent’s wins divided by the opponent’s games played multiplied by 10 to get the total power points of games which is divided by the number of total games played during the regular season.

Re: How does your state do HS football playoffs go?

Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 11:11 pm
by SuperHornet
Until recently, Cali's playoffs stopped at the section level. And the division depend on whether one was NorCal or SoCal. Generally, the divisions are based on enrollment. NorCal schools have divisions numbered I through VIII (highest to lowest), while SoCal schools go I through XII. If a higher division is short of the requisite number of qualifying teams (especially in SoCal), a lower school can fleet up. Previously, after sections, the playoffs were done, and that's all a school could claim. Now, we have almost a B(C)$ style system where the divisions are matched up in bowls rotating by year between a NorCal and SoCal location based on a different enrollment figures (large schools to small schools) scheme since the two halves of the state are so different. Power rankings play into this. One school from each half of the state are also chosen for the "Open" Division bowl game.

I think this year the bowl games were played in Carson and are due to come back up to NorCal next year.

Re: How does your state do HS football playoffs go?

Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 6:16 am
by bluehenbillk
PA has four classifications, AAAA the biggest and A the smallest. All the state champ games take place in Hershey, or some years they've done it in Altoona. The Philadelphia Public & Catholic Leagues joined the PIAA recently so 99% of the state participates.

Re: How does your state do HS football playoffs go?

Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 9:45 am
by OhioHen
Ohio divides into 6 Divisions for football, based on the number of male students. Each division has approximately the same number of schools, which are then divided into regions. The geography of the regions varies across divisions. The top 8 teams (based on wins, the strength of those wins, and wins by the teams you beat) in each region play a straight bracket to get to the State semifinals. Regional matchups at the semifinal level rotate annually.

In all other team sports, EVERYBODY makes the playoffs. A team that hasn't won any games still plays in the tournament.

Re: How does your state do HS football playoffs go?

Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 2:21 pm
by 93henfan
From the DIAA handbook for Delaware:

Item 1. Playoff Participants
A The 2009 DIAA Football State Championships will consist of a Division I tournament and a Division II tournament. The teams that are eligible to participate in the Division I playoffs include the Blue Hen "A" Conference, the Henlopen North Conference, St. Mark's High School and the Salesianum School. The teams that are eligible to participate in the Division II playoffs include the Blue Hen "B" Conference, the Henlopen South Conference, and all other DIAA member schools not included in Division I. These Divisions are based on the enrollment figures from the current BENCHMARK DATE (September 30, 2008). Single gender schools will be classified by doubling their enrollment figure on the Benchmark Date. The Benchmark Date is the date that Delaware schools will use to determine Conference alignments for a two-year cycle. The current classifications are as follows:

Division I
AI duPont, Brandywine, Caesar Rodney, Cape Henlopen, Charter of Wilmington, Christiana, Concord, Delcastle, Dover , Glasgow, Milford, Middletown, Newark, Saint Marks, Salesianum, Smyrna, Sussex Central, Sussex Technical, William Penn

Division II
Appoquinimink, Archmere, Caravel, Conrad, DE Military Academy, Delmar, Dickinson, Ferris, Hodgson, Howard, Indian River, Lake Forest, Laurel, McKean, Mount Pleasant, Moyer Academy, Pencader Charter, Polytech, Red Lion Christian Academy, Saint Andrews, Saint Elizabeths, Saint Georges, Seaford Tatnall, Tower Hill, Woodbridge, Wilmington Friends

B. The Division I qualifiers will be the Blue Hen "A" and Henlopen North champions and four at-large teams. The Division II qualifiers will be the Blue Hen "B" and Henlopen South champions and four at-large teams.
C. Each of the aforementioned conferences is responsible for making such scheduling adjustments as are necessary so that its champion is available for the playoffs. In the case of a tie, each conference is responsible for selecting its playoff representative.
D. The Football Committee will select the at-large representatives according to the following point index system and tie-breaking criteria:

1. Division I Opponent Division II Opponent
6 points for a win 4 points for a win
3 points for a tie 2 points for a tie
1 point for a loss 0 points for a loss
a. Any out-of-state opponent whose building houses grades 9-12 and whose enrollment at the time a valid DIAA Contract was signed (boys and girls) is equal to or exceeds the Benchmark Date enrollment (boys and girls in grades 9-12) of the smallest Division I team (1157) will be classified as Division I. All other out-of-state opponents whose building houses grades 9-12 will be classified as Division II. The valid DIAA contract used to determine classification must have been signed within the most recent two-year benchmark period.
b. An out-of-state opponent whose building houses grades 10-12 and whose enrollment (boys and girls) at the time a valid DIAA Contract was signed, is equal to or exceeds the Benchmark Date enrollment (boys and girls in grades 10-12) of the smallest Division I team will be classified as Division I. The valid DIAA contract used to determine classification must have been signed within the most recent two-year benchmark period.
All other out-of-state opponents whose building houses grades 10-12 will be classified as Division II.
c. A single gender, out-of-state opponent will be classified by doubling their enrollment at the time a valid DIAA Contract was signed (boys in grades 9-12 or 10-12 depending on the school’s grade configuration) and then comparing it to the Benchmark Date enrollment (boys and girls in grades 9-12 or grades 10-12 depending on the out-of-state school’s grade configuration) in accordance with a. and b. above. The valid DIAA contract used to determine classification must have been signed within the most recent two-year benchmark period.
2. Add 1 point for each opponent that won 7 or 8 games during the regular season.
3. Add 2 points for each opponent that won 9 or 10 games during the regular season.
4. Divide the total points accumulated by the number of games played. The two teams in each division with the highest point indices will be the at-large representatives.
a. If two or more teams are tied for the final at-large berth, the results of head-to-head competition during the regular season will be used to break the tie. If, after considering head-to-head competition, two or more teams are still tied for the final at-large berth, the following criteria will be used:
(1) The team whose opponents have the most victories in regular season play will qualify for the playoffs.
(2) If a tie still exists, the team whose opponents have the fewest defeats in regular season play will qualify for the playoffs.
(3) If a tie still exists, the Committee will choose the at-large team(s) by vote.
5. For points to count an opponent must have played a minimum of an eight game Varsity schedule. Forfeits will count toward satisfying this requirement.
A. A member of the Committee will be responsible for contacting the out-of-state opponents of each school in contention for a tournament berth and obtaining their state Benchmark date enrollment. Schools that play Out-of-State opponents need to send the contact information for those schools to DIAA by September 21, 2009. Please send it via e-mail to tneubauer@doe.k12.de.us.
B. The regular season consists of the first 10 regular season games and must be completed by Saturday, November 14, 2009.
C. A team must complete an eight-game varsity schedule in order to be eligible for the tournament. Forfeits will count toward satisfying this requirement.
D. In the event that a conference champion is not eligible to participate in the tournament or a conference chooses not to send its champion, the Committee will use the at-large point index system and tie-breaking criteria in D. above to choose another team.

Item 2. Tournament Seeding
A. After the teams have been selected, the at-large point index system and tie-breaking criteria in Item 1.D. will be used to seed the six qualifying teams in each division. The two highest seeded teams in each division will receive a first round bye. The remaining four teams in each division will be paired #3 vs. #6 and #4 vs. #5. The Committee will re-seed the remaining four teams in each division following all games played in the first round.

Re: How does your state do HS football playoffs go?

Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 3:15 pm
by DukeJack
Virginia splits into three divisions, A, AA, and AAA, based on enrollment for public schools.

A - up to around 700 students
AA - 700 to 1600 students
AAA - 1600 and up

These are approximations and not strict limits, I attended a AA high school that was bigger by a few hundred kids than some of the AAA schools near us. Schools can apply to play up a classification if they feel they they are not being challenged at their current athletic level. Each class is broken into four regions, with each region being made up of four districts. A district ranges from 6-12 or so schools.

For football, each class is broken down further, into two divisions (A - Div. 1 and 2, AA - Div. 3 and 4, AAA - Div. 5 and 6), again based on enrollment. Schools remain playing in the district format until playoffs, with no district tournament. It is then possible (and often happens) for two teams from the same district to compete in different divisions. District champs host runners-up, selected on basis of "power points", and so on until the state finals.

Re: How does your state HS football playoffs go?

Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 12:54 pm
by free7694
Colorado splits into seven classes:

5A: 45 schools, enrollment 1,641 and up, 32 qualify for state playoffs
4A: 47 schools, enrollment 1,201-1,640, 16 qualify for state playoffs
3A: 40 schools, enrollment 601-1,200, 16 qualify for state playoffs
2A: 48 schools, enrollment 276-600, 16 qualify for state playoffs
1A: 36 schools, enrollment 126-275, 16 qualify for state playoffs
1A 8-Man: 48 schools, enrollment 76-125, 32 qualify for "cross-divisional" playoffs, 16 for state playoffs
1A 6-Man: 20 schools, enrollment 1-75, 8 qualify for state playoffs

It's all pretty straight forward, except for the 8-Man cross-divisional playoffs, which are there to account for the wide talent gap between regions in that class. It's pretty often that a #4 seed from a strong region beats a #1 from a weak region.

Re: How does your state HS football playoffs go?

Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 1:31 pm
by CatMom
5A - Division 1
5A - Division 2
4A - Division 1
4A - Division 2
3A - Division 1
3A - Division 2
2A - Division 1
2A - Division 2
1A - Division 1
1A - Division 2
1A Six Man Division 1
1A Six Man Division 2

5A - 30 districts, split. Enrollment 2085+
4A - 980-2084
3A - 430-979
2A - 200-429
1A - 0-199
1A 6man, less than 100
(they just revamped the enrollment #'s and realigned just about everyone)

All, as you see, have 2 seperate divisions, so there are 2 champions in each. I do wish they had a game between the 2 winners but they don't. I think it sucks.

Used to be the top 2 in each district went but now everyone and their brother makes the playoffs. It's not only annoying, it stretches the playoffs out unneccessarily. Guess it's a part of that "everybody is a winner" mentality the country has come to.
Naturally not all the divisions have as many teams but 5A has like 64 playoff teams....for each division, to start with. So, 128 5A schools, deserving or not, make the first round. :roll:

Re: How does your state HS football playoffs go?

Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2010 12:40 am
by T-Dog
I'm bumping this because I want to.
T-Dog wrote:The NCHSAA had the wonderful idea of taking the top 64 in each of 1A, 2A, 3A and 4A (32 from the East Region, 32 from the West Region). So the unspoken rule is that if you reach 4 wins, your qualified for the playoffs. :thumbdown:

So then the schools are listed by enrollment. You then have 8 lists (4A East, 4A West, etc) of 32 teams. The top 16 schools in terms of enrollment are put in the AA playoffs. The bottom 16 in the A playoffs. So then you have 8 playoffs (4AA, 4A, 3AA, 3A, 2AA, 2A, 1AA, 1A). Each region is seed 1-16.

The 8 state finals are then had at Wake Forest, Chapel Hill and NC State (2 at WF, 3 each at Chapel Hill and NC State) on a rotating basis.

So yeah, what is your state system and how much better is it. :nod:
Take the above and add the below.

They tweaked the North Carolina football playoffs this year. In years past, some Eastern schools would be put in the West bracket and vice versa (although it was more East to West) so teams would have 8-9 hour bus rides one way. One school in Eastern NC had to travel 400 miles one way to play a mountain school, then back 425 miles one way to another mountain school the next week. No more of that.

Now they have sub-regions. The 16 teams in each region are seeded 1-16, but then geographically are split (West split into West and Midwest sub-region and East into East and Mideast sub-region) and then re-seeded 1-8 in their sub-region. So you theoretically could have the 9-16 regionally seeded teams in a sub-region and the #9 regional seed could be the #1 seed in the sub-regional. The sub-regionals aren't constrained to geographical limits but rather just where the schools are So far it's created a lot of conference rematches in the first and second rounds. In the regional finals where the two sub-regional winners face off, the highest regional seed hosts. Also, there is a rule now so the conference champion can't be seeded lower than any other playoff team in their conference, no matter the overall record.

Also, there's the NCISAA which is all the private schools, although some schools are moving to the NCHSAA recently. They ave. They have Division I, Division II and 8-man football. DI and 8-man are eight teams and DII is four teams, all competed at the higher seeds. Those schools can petition to move up or down divisions. The NCISAA/NCHSAA ratio is about 10% to 90%.

So you end up with 11 North Carolina state champions on football

NCHSAA
4AA
4A
3AA
3A
2AA
2A
1AA
1A
NCISAA
Division I
Division II
8-man

Re: How does your state HS football playoffs go?

Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2010 5:15 am
by Gil Dobie
Minnesota (Public & Private)

AAAAA
AAAA
AAA
AA
A
9-Man

Re: How does your state HS football playoffs go?

Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2010 6:59 am
by Franks Tanks
I think PA does it well. We have 4 classes by enrollment and every school in the state participates. Teams typically need at least 7 wins, sometimes 8, to make the playoffs so only good teams are rewarded.

The state is broken out as West-Central and East. Everything west of Harrisburg is in the West for playoffs to keep the popualtions even.

The 4 classifications are pretty even as well

A-141 schools
AA-149
AAA- 148
AAAA- 151

Re: How does your state HS football playoffs go?

Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2010 7:02 am
by Franks Tanks
T-Dog wrote:I'm bumping this because I want to.
T-Dog wrote:The NCHSAA had the wonderful idea of taking the top 64 in each of 1A, 2A, 3A and 4A (32 from the East Region, 32 from the West Region). So the unspoken rule is that if you reach 4 wins, your qualified for the playoffs. :thumbdown:

So then the schools are listed by enrollment. You then have 8 lists (4A East, 4A West, etc) of 32 teams. The top 16 schools in terms of enrollment are put in the AA playoffs. The bottom 16 in the A playoffs. So then you have 8 playoffs (4AA, 4A, 3AA, 3A, 2AA, 2A, 1AA, 1A). Each region is seed 1-16.

The 8 state finals are then had at Wake Forest, Chapel Hill and NC State (2 at WF, 3 each at Chapel Hill and NC State) on a rotating basis.

So yeah, what is your state system and how much better is it. :nod:
Take the above and add the below.

They tweaked the North Carolina football playoffs this year. In years past, some Eastern schools would be put in the West bracket and vice versa (although it was more East to West) so teams would have 8-9 hour bus rides one way. One school in Eastern NC had to travel 400 miles one way to play a mountain school, then back 425 miles one way to another mountain school the next week. No more of that.

Now they have sub-regions. The 16 teams in each region are seeded 1-16, but then geographically are split (West split into West and Midwest sub-region and East into East and Mideast sub-region) and then re-seeded 1-8 in their sub-region. So you theoretically could have the 9-16 regionally seeded teams in a sub-region and the #9 regional seed could be the #1 seed in the sub-regional. The sub-regionals aren't constrained to geographical limits but rather just where the schools are So far it's created a lot of conference rematches in the first and second rounds. In the regional finals where the two sub-regional winners face off, the highest regional seed hosts. Also, there is a rule now so the conference champion can't be seeded lower than any other playoff team in their conference, no matter the overall record.

Also, there's the NCISAA which is all the private schools, although some schools are moving to the NCHSAA recently. They ave. They have Division I, Division II and 8-man football. DI and 8-man are eight teams and DII is four teams, all competed at the higher seeds. Those schools can petition to move up or down divisions. The NCISAA/NCHSAA ratio is about 10% to 90%.

So you end up with 11 North Carolina state champions on football

NCHSAA
4AA
4A
3AA
3A
2AA
2A
1AA
1A
NCISAA
Division I
Division II
8-man
11 is too many state champs. It's like NJ with 16 "state" champs. Each of their 4 classes has 4 group champions.


In PA 589 football playing High Schools compete for 4 state championships. Winning a state championship really means something when only 4 are awarded.

Re: How does your state do HS football playoffs go?

Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2010 3:09 pm
by ToTheLeft
tampajag wrote:Florida has 8 classifications (6A, 5A, 4A, 3A, 2A, 2B, 1A, and 1B) Classifications are grouped by attendance
6A - 82 schools (enrollment 2363-4147)
5A - 65 schools (enrollment 2015-2362)
4A - 70 schools (enrollment 1740-2014)
3A - 92 schools (enrollment 1391-1739)
2A- 39 schools (enrollment 1015-1390)
2B - 49 schools (enrollment 522-1014)
1A - 53 schools (enrollment 259-521)
1B - 54 schools (enrollment 48-258)

The larger classifications (6A-3A) have 32 teams and the smaller classifications (2A-1B) have 16 teams. each bracket is divided into regions North and South. in each region the district winner faces the district runner up (for example district 1 winner would face district 2 runner up). After you win your region you go on to play a state semifinal and the the state final is held in Orlando. The only downside to this is that travel is already predetermined by the region, so some teams can make it to the final without travelling much.
:thumb:

10-0 Charlotte Tarpons are gonna make some noise in the 4A bracket.

I like how it's set up, the travel thing is a bit lame, but overall it's not a bad setup.

Re: How does your state HS football playoffs go?

Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2010 3:56 pm
by tampajag
Gonna head out in a few to catch the Hillsborough/Largo game. I think Armwood will make some noise in 4A as they always do. Could be a strong playoffs for Tampa teams (Plant in 5A, Armwood 4A, Jefferson 3A, Jesuit 2A)

Re: How does your state HS football playoffs go?

Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2010 4:16 pm
by ToTheLeft
tampajag wrote:Gonna head out in a few to catch the Hillsborough/Largo game. I think Armwood will make some noise in 4A as they always do. Could be a strong playoffs for Tampa teams (Plant in 5A, Armwood 4A, Jefferson 3A, Jesuit 2A)
Yeah, a lot of good football in that area. Armwood/Hillsborough/Largo are all potential matchups for CHS in the 3rd round. So let me know how they look, and if they can stop one of the best running attacks in all of HS football. :thumb:

Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2010 5:24 pm
by tampajag
tampajag wrote:
Gonna head out in a few to catch the Hillsborough/Largo game. I think Armwood will make some noise in 4A as they always do. Could be a strong playoffs for Tampa teams (Plant in 5A, Armwood 4A, Jefferson 3A, Jesuit 2A)
Yeah, a lot of good football in that area. Armwood/Hillsborough/Largo are all potential matchups for CHS in the 3rd round. So let me know how they look, and if they can stop one of the best running attacks in all of HS football. :thumb:
Armwood would be your toughest test, they throw the ball a bit more than past Armwood teams and their D is stout. It'll be interesting to see how they matchup with Bellamy.

Hillsborough is a wildcard, I don't think they'll have enough to get past Armwood. I think they squeak past Largo.

Largo is super young and battered by injuries. They're missing their QB and a key RB.

I know it's one game at a time but I see Armwood being the team you face if you both survive.

Re: How does your state HS football playoffs go?

Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2010 5:35 pm
by danefan
Franks Tanks wrote:
T-Dog wrote:I'm bumping this because I want to.



Take the above and add the below.

They tweaked the North Carolina football playoffs this year. In years past, some Eastern schools would be put in the West bracket and vice versa (although it was more East to West) so teams would have 8-9 hour bus rides one way. One school in Eastern NC had to travel 400 miles one way to play a mountain school, then back 425 miles one way to another mountain school the next week. No more of that.

Now they have sub-regions. The 16 teams in each region are seeded 1-16, but then geographically are split (West split into West and Midwest sub-region and East into East and Mideast sub-region) and then re-seeded 1-8 in their sub-region. So you theoretically could have the 9-16 regionally seeded teams in a sub-region and the #9 regional seed could be the #1 seed in the sub-regional. The sub-regionals aren't constrained to geographical limits but rather just where the schools are So far it's created a lot of conference rematches in the first and second rounds. In the regional finals where the two sub-regional winners face off, the highest regional seed hosts. Also, there is a rule now so the conference champion can't be seeded lower than any other playoff team in their conference, no matter the overall record.

Also, there's the NCISAA which is all the private schools, although some schools are moving to the NCHSAA recently. They ave. They have Division I, Division II and 8-man football. DI and 8-man are eight teams and DII is four teams, all competed at the higher seeds. Those schools can petition to move up or down divisions. The NCISAA/NCHSAA ratio is about 10% to 90%.

So you end up with 11 North Carolina state champions on football

NCHSAA
4AA
4A
3AA
3A
2AA
2A
1AA
1A
NCISAA
Division I
Division II
8-man
11 is too many state champs. It's like NJ with 16 "state" champs. Each of their 4 classes has 4 group champions.


In PA 589 football playing High Schools compete for 4 state championships. Winning a state championship really means something when only 4 are awarded.
NJ is straight up stupid.

The only group I care about this year though is the Non-public Group 4. It'll likely be Don Bosco vs. Bergen Catholic again at the Meadowlands. I'll be there for sure.

Re: How does your state HS football playoffs go?

Posted: Sat Nov 20, 2010 1:40 am
by ToTheLeft
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CHS will play Cape next week for a trip to the quarters. The game against Gulf Coast was such a blowout, the second half was played with a running clock. :D

Hillsborough roughed up Largo, and Armwood won pretty easily. They'll match up to determine CHS/Cape's QF opponent.

Bellamy eclipsed 7,000 career yards in the game. :thumb: Shame he's goin' to Clempsun. :thumbdown: