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UPDATE: Rangers Acquire Cliff Lee For Smoak, Other Prospects

Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 12:27 pm
by UNHWildCats
Seattle's AAA team has removed its listed starter Michael Pineda for tonight leading to speculation he will start in place of Lee for Seattle tonight.

Re: Cliff Lee Deal Nearly Done?

Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 12:52 pm
by UNHWildCats
Buster Olney reporting the deal could break up

Re: Cliff Lee Deal Nearly Done?

Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 1:03 pm
by bluehenbillk
Maybe that'll re-spark the Werth-to-the-Yankees talk. Yankees offered Javier Vazquez supposedly which the Phils turned down...

Re: Cliff Lee Deal Nearly Done?

Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 1:05 pm
by UNHWildCats
SI_JonHeyman

#yankees about to "walk" after #mariners dont accept montero, adams and 3rd prospect. pessimism surrounds those talks now

Re: Cliff Lee Deal Nearly Done?

Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 1:19 pm
by bluehenbillk
UNHWildCats wrote:SI_JonHeyman

#yankees about to "walk" after #mariners dont accept montero, adams and 3rd prospect. pessimism surrounds those talks now
Don't know much about Adams, is he considered "major-league ready"? I know a lot of teams have soured on Montero this season.

Re: Cliff Lee Deal Nearly Done?

Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 1:22 pm
by UNHWildCats
Apparently Rangers are in it now with Justin Smoak as cornerstone of deal.

Re: Cliff Lee Deal Nearly Done?

Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 1:49 pm
by DJH
Is it just me or do deals like this always seem to go down when the two teams are playing each other?

I was hoping the Twins could land Lee.

Re: Cliff Lee Deal Nearly Done?

Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 1:49 pm
by UNHWildCats
Yankees are now reportedly out of it. Of course for all the players they have either been out of or never in on in the past they can make an all star team with, so they never trully are out until Lee is in another uniform.

Re: Cliff Lee Deal Nearly Done?

Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 2:02 pm
by JoltinJoe
UNHWildCats wrote:Yankees are now reportedly out of it. Of course for all the players they have either been out of or never in on in the past they can make an all star team with, so they never trully are out until Lee is in another uniform.
This is actually better. We get Lee later this year and get to keep Montero too. :thumb:

Re: UPDATE: Rangers Acquire Cliff Lee For Smoak, Other Prosp

Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 2:03 pm
by UNHWildCats
Texas gets Lee for Smoak and other prospects. Texas also gets Mark Lowe while Seattle gets 3 additional prospects.

Re: UPDATE: Rangers Acquire Cliff Lee For Smoak, Other Prosp

Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 2:06 pm
by Grizalltheway
Great, gave our best pitcher to the team that's already running away with the division title. :ohno: :ohno: :wall:

Re: UPDATE: Rangers Acquire Cliff Lee For Smoak, Other Prosp

Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 2:12 pm
by JoltinJoe
UNHWildCats wrote:Texas gets Lee for Smoak and other prospects. Texas also gets Mark Lowe while Seattle gets 3 additional prospects.
Where are you getting this from?

Anyway, don't see how Texas can sign this guy long-term, given its chapter 11 case, when the Yankees are going to offer out-of-sight money for him.

Re: UPDATE: Rangers Acquire Cliff Lee For Smoak, Other Prosp

Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 2:12 pm
by UNHWildCats
Grizalltheway wrote:Great, gave our best pitcher to the team that's already running away with the division title. :ohno: :ohno: :wall:
Seattle wasnt going anywhere this year and wasnt keeping Lee after this year. In return they get the best prospect in the division. Great day for Seattle

Re: UPDATE: Rangers Acquire Cliff Lee For Smoak, Other Prosp

Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 2:17 pm
by UNHWildCats
JoltinJoe wrote:
UNHWildCats wrote:Texas gets Lee for Smoak and other prospects. Texas also gets Mark Lowe while Seattle gets 3 additional prospects.
Where are you getting this from?

Anyway, don't see how Texas can sign this guy long-term, given its chapter 11 case, when the Yankees are going to offer out-of-sight money for him.
Doubt they did this deal with the future in mind. Texas wants to win this year.

Re: UPDATE: Rangers Acquire Cliff Lee For Smoak, Other Prosp

Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 2:20 pm
by JoltinJoe
UNHWildCats wrote:
JoltinJoe wrote:
Where are you getting this from?

Anyway, don't see how Texas can sign this guy long-term, given its chapter 11 case, when the Yankees are going to offer out-of-sight money for him.
Doubt they did this deal with the future in mind. Texas wants to win this year.
They're not good enough to win it all this year. They'll be huge first-round dogs in the playoffs, even with Lee.

Re: UPDATE: Rangers Acquire Cliff Lee For Smoak, Other Prosp

Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 2:28 pm
by UNHWildCats
JoltinJoe wrote:
UNHWildCats wrote: Doubt they did this deal with the future in mind. Texas wants to win this year.
They're not good enough to win it all this year. They'll be huge first-round dogs in the playoffs, even with Lee.
anything came happen in a short 5 game series. And then anythings possible. Who in 2003 on this date thought Florida was good enough to win it all? Can't blame Texas for making a move to win it now... the years they have been competitive have been few and far between.

That said, some execs are already fuming that Texas is being allowed to add $$ on their dime. I assume the Stienbrenners are at the front of that group complaining.

Re: UPDATE: Rangers Acquire Cliff Lee For Smoak, Other Prosp

Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 2:31 pm
by JoltinJoe
UNHWildCats wrote: That said, some execs are already fuming that Texas is being allowed to add $$ on their dime. I assume the Stienbrenners are at the front of that group complaining.
I would assume so since the Yankees are sending the biggest of the bail-out checks to Texas.

Re: UPDATE: Rangers Acquire Cliff Lee For Smoak, Other Prosp

Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 3:10 pm
by UNHWildCats
Yankees livid with Mariners. Say that "You just don't do business that way,"

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Re: UPDATE: Rangers Acquire Cliff Lee For Smoak, Other Prosp

Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 3:28 pm
by JoltinJoe
UNHWildCats wrote:Yankees livid with Mariners. Say that "You just don't do business that way,"

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Where are you getting this information? Olney's twitter says that the Yankees are "circumspect" and one executive said "these things happen."

Also apparently the Mets are joking that they should do what Texas did: beat out a team for a player, and then get that other team to pay that player too.

Re: UPDATE: Rangers Acquire Cliff Lee For Smoak, Other Prosp

Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 3:31 pm
by UNHWildCats
JoltinJoe wrote:
UNHWildCats wrote:Yankees livid with Mariners. Say that "You just don't do business that way,"

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Where are you getting this information?
national baseball sportswriters. Follow them all on twitter

Re: UPDATE: Rangers Acquire Cliff Lee For Smoak, Other Prosp

Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 3:32 pm
by Willie
UNHWildCats wrote:
JoltinJoe wrote:
Where are you getting this information?
national baseball sportswriters. Follow them all on twitter
Then who you're following doesn't know shit. That was never said.

Re: UPDATE: Rangers Acquire Cliff Lee For Smoak, Other Prosp

Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 3:45 pm
by UNHWildCats
Willie wrote:
UNHWildCats wrote: national baseball sportswriters. Follow them all on twitter
Then who you're following doesn't know shit. That was never said.
and how the hell would you know what was or wasnt said.

Re: UPDATE: Rangers Acquire Cliff Lee For Smoak, Other Prosp

Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 3:57 pm
by JoltinJoe
Here's an interesting note from a Boston baseball blog in which Kevin Youkilis questions Jacoby Ellsbury's manhood.

http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/r ... uesti.html

Re: UPDATE: Rangers Acquire Cliff Lee For Smoak, Other Prosp

Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 4:01 pm
by UNHWildCats
JoltinJoe wrote:Here's an interesting note from a Boston baseball blog in which Kevin Youkilis questions Jacoby Ellsbury's manhood.

http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/r ... uesti.html
Unfortunately Ellsbury is listening to his agent Scott Boras. :ohno: :ohno: :ohno:

Re: UPDATE: Rangers Acquire Cliff Lee For Smoak, Other Prosp

Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 4:05 pm
by UNHWildCats
JoltinJoe wrote:Here's an interesting note from a Boston baseball blog in which Kevin Youkilis questions Jacoby Ellsbury's manhood.

http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/r ... uesti.html
BTW this is worth the couple minute read. http://www.survivinggrady.com/2010/07/n ... he-dl.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;