Baltimore Orioles

UNHWildCats · Post by **UNHWildCats** » Fri Feb 04, 2011 4:49 pm

I am very much leaning towards picking them to finish second in the East.

As of this very moment I am leaning towards this

Boston
Baltimore
Tampa Bay
New York
Toronto

SuperHornet · Post by **SuperHornet** » Fri Feb 04, 2011 5:53 pm

You better not be basing that on one second banana who retired today....

UNHWildCats · Post by **UNHWildCats** » Fri Feb 04, 2011 6:26 pm

SuperHornet wrote:You better not be basing that on one second banana who retired today....

I'm basing it on the whole of the Orioles offseason. Adding Reynolds, Lee, Guerrero, Hardy along with their young team being a year older that team is going to have a very good offense, the question is can they get decent pitching from the players they got....

free7694 · Post by **free7694** » Fri Feb 04, 2011 11:38 pm

UNHWildCats wrote:
SuperHornet wrote:You better not be basing that on one second banana who retired today....
I'm basing it on the whole of the Orioles offseason. Adding Reynolds, Lee, Guerrero, Hardy along with their young team being a year older that team is going to have a very good offense, the question is can they get decent pitching from the players they got....

Their top 3 starters (Guthrie, Matusz, Bergesen) went 19-7 with a 2.77 ERA in August & September last year...

JoltinJoe · Post by **JoltinJoe** » Sat Feb 05, 2011 8:25 pm

Hey, if you want to put the whammy out on the Red Sox, fine, that's your team, but why are you dragging the Orioles down with you?

Post by **andy7171** » Tue Feb 08, 2011 6:58 am

With Vlad behind him in the line up, this might be the year for Markakis to really break out. Even 3-4 years past his prime Vlad's .300/29HR/115RBI becomes the biggest bat in the line up. Boston is head and shoulder above the rest of the division, but I think the other four teams will finish within 8-10 games of each other.
1- BRobb
2- AJones
3- Markakis
4- Vlad
5- Scott
6- Lee
7- Reynolds
8- Weiters
9- Hardy
Not horrible. Hopefully if they can break .500, the O's might actually attract a real FA next year.

89Hen · Post by **89Hen** » Tue Feb 08, 2011 7:07 am

andy7171 wrote:Hopefully if they can break .500

When was the last time that's happened? I don't think any of your girls have ever seen a winning season in B'more.

Post by **andy7171** » Tue Feb 08, 2011 8:05 am

89Hen wrote:
andy7171 wrote:Hopefully if they can break .500
When was the last time that's happened? I don't think any of your girls have ever seen a winning season in B'more.

The wire to wire season 1997.

I blame Peter Angelos and Albert Belle.

Post by **TwinTownBisonFan** » Tue Feb 08, 2011 10:25 am

so when JJ Hardy goes on the DL and they are forced to call up Brendan Harris and he becomes a clubhouse cancer like he was in Minn... enjoy that...

also - and take this from a Twins fan... those bats aren't enough... the pitching needs to be much better... I think they could get over .500 if they stay healthy... but I am very skeptical... any team with this much hype going in to a season about how they will "surprise" is destined to disappoint.

JoltinJoe · Post by **JoltinJoe** » Wed Feb 09, 2011 8:30 am

andy7171 wrote:Boston is head and shoulder above the rest of the division, but I think the other four teams will finish within 8-10 games of each other.

The reason Boston missed the playoffs last year wasn't because of injuries. It was because they had mediocre starting pitching starting at the No. 3 spot in their rotation; and because of a below average bullpen. They did nothing to address the first problem and added some average arms to the bullpen.

I think Beckett and Lackey are what they showed last season. The Sox are banking that they will return to 2007 form. We'll see.

Also, remember, the two players who kept the Boston offense in the game last year were Adrian Beltre and Victor Martinez, two guys who were ousted in the "upgrades." Sounds a lot like what the Yankees did in the later 80s.

Post by **bandl** » Wed Feb 09, 2011 8:38 am

andy7171 wrote:
89Hen wrote: When was the last time that's happened? I don't think any of your girls have ever seen a winning season in B'more.
The wire to wire season 1997.

I blame Peter Angelos and Albert Belle.

One good thing about all this is that it is real easy to get tickets to a game in Camden Yards, even on the day of!

(Except opening day...right?

)

I'm torn....should my sons first baseball game be at Camden Yards or at Nat's Stadium? O's will always be my #1 team, but until Angelos dies or sells the team, they are pretty much on stand-by.

89Hen · Post by **89Hen** » Wed Feb 09, 2011 8:39 am

bandl wrote:I'm torn....should my sons first baseball game be at Camden Yards or at Nat's Stadium? O's will always be my #1 team, but until Angelos dies or sells the team, they are pretty much on stand-by.

Potomac Cannons.

Post by **bandl** » Wed Feb 09, 2011 8:44 am

89Hen wrote:
bandl wrote:I'm torn....should my sons first baseball game be at Camden Yards or at Nat's Stadium? O's will always be my #1 team, but until Angelos dies or sells the team, they are pretty much on stand-by.
Potomac Cannons.

Oh, we'll definitely hit a few games there and at the Frederick Keys. Simply because it's a ton cheaper (ticket prices AND beer prices) and more intimate.

GannonFan · Post by **GannonFan** » Wed Feb 09, 2011 11:33 am

JoltinJoe wrote: It was because they had mediocre starting pitching starting at the No. 3 spot in their rotation...

Well, if anyone should know about mediocrity at the #3 spot and beyond, it should be a Yankee fan.

Post by **andy7171** » Wed Feb 09, 2011 12:56 pm

bandl wrote: One good thing about all this is that it is real easy to get tickets to a game in Camden Yards, even on the day of!
(Except opening day...right? )

Pretty much. Although I went to one of the games against the Nat's and the place was packed. This year Angelos has a new "same day" ticket price that is a dollar or so more. MF'er.

JoltinJoe wrote:
andy7171 wrote:Boston is head and shoulder above the rest of the division, but I think the other four teams will finish within 8-10 games of each other.
The reason Boston missed the playoffs last year wasn't because of injuries. It was because they had mediocre starting pitching starting at the No. 3 spot in their rotation; and because of a below average bullpen. They did nothing to address the first problem and added some average arms to the bullpen.

I think Beckett and Lackey are what they showed last season. The Sox are banking that they will return to 2007 form. We'll see.

Also, remember, the two players who kept the Boston offense in the game last year were Adrian Beltre and Victor Martinez, two guys who were ousted in the "upgrades." Sounds a lot like what the Yankees did in the later 80s.

JoltinJoe · Post by **JoltinJoe** » Wed Feb 09, 2011 2:58 pm

GannonFan wrote:
JoltinJoe wrote: It was because they had mediocre starting pitching starting at the No. 3 spot in their rotation...
Well, if anyone should know about mediocrity at the #3 spot and beyond, it should be a Yankee fan.

2009 World Series.

GannonFan · Post by **GannonFan** » Wed Feb 09, 2011 3:09 pm

JoltinJoe wrote:
GannonFan wrote:
Well, if anyone should know about mediocrity at the #3 spot and beyond, it should be a Yankee fan.

2009 World Series.

Could be the last WS we see the Yanks in for some time, what with Boston, Tampa, and Baltimore now all in the ascendency.

free7694 · Post by **free7694** » Wed Feb 09, 2011 3:48 pm

JoltinJoe wrote:
GannonFan wrote:
Well, if anyone should know about mediocrity at the #3 spot and beyond, it should be a Yankee fan.

2009 World Series.

Freddy Garcia
Ivan Nova
Bartolo Colon
Mark Prior
Andrew Brackman
Sergio Mitre

These are the guys competing for the last two spots in the Yankees rotation. None of them are good or even average players.

JoltinJoe · Post by **JoltinJoe** » Wed Feb 09, 2011 4:26 pm

free7694 wrote:
JoltinJoe wrote:

2009 World Series.
Freddy Garcia
Ivan Nova
Bartolo Colon
Mark Prior
Andrew Brackman
Sergio Mitre

These are the guys competing for the last two spots in the Yankees rotation. None of them are good or even average players.

Nova and Brackman are very talented guys. Nova is a solid MLB "five" right now.

89Hen · Post by **89Hen** » Thu Feb 10, 2011 7:12 am

JoltinJoe wrote:Nova is a solid MLB "five" right now.

Maybe for the Yankees.

UNHWildCats · Post by **UNHWildCats** » Thu Feb 10, 2011 12:20 pm

You guys gotta give Joe a break... He's not used to seeing the Yankees with only one good starter and a lineup thats closer to AARP than to their prime...

JoltinJoe · Post by **JoltinJoe** » Fri Feb 11, 2011 4:47 am

You Phillies and Sox fans are funny. It's February and you guys are already 15 games ahead.

February belongs to you; October belongs to the Yankees.

GannonFan · Post by **GannonFan** » Fri Feb 11, 2011 10:03 am

JoltinJoe wrote:You Phillies and Sox fans are funny. It's February and you guys are already 15 games ahead.

February belongs to you; October belongs to the Yankees.

Yup, I'm sure the Yanks will have all the best tee times come October this year. No argument there.

JoltinJoe · Post by **JoltinJoe** » Fri Feb 11, 2011 4:00 pm

GannonFan wrote:
JoltinJoe wrote:You Phillies and Sox fans are funny. It's February and you guys are already 15 games ahead.

February belongs to you; October belongs to the Yankees.
Yup, I'm sure the Yanks will have all the best tee times come October this year. No argument there.

Do you know that the Phillies have never beaten the Yankees in the World Series? Never.

UNHWildCats · Post by **UNHWildCats** » Fri Feb 11, 2011 4:52 pm

Yankees fans living in the past.

Everyone else looking to the future.

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