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ENOUGH ALREADY!!! :roll:
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andy7171 wrote:ENOUGH ALREADY!!! :roll:

This guy was interviewed about Jeter.
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Never heard of him.
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What's with all the HOF talk, he's not even the best short stop on his own team!
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andy7171 wrote:What's with all the HOF talk, he's not even the best short stop on his own team!

In this video, Bob Ryan discusses where Jeter ranks within the heady group of the 3,000 hit club. Ryan says Jeter is a better player than: Yaz, Molitor, Murray, Ripken, Biggio, Brock, Palmiero, Kaline, Boggs. I think he is also plainly better than Yount (this one had to be an oversight on Ryan's part), Winfield, Henderson, and Rose. (BTW: Notice, I am being 100% serious with this analysis).

BTW, with the exception of Palmiero (a dirty Bird cheater), these guys are all first ballot HOFers. :thumb:
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JoltinJoe wrote:
andy7171 wrote:What's with all the HOF talk, he's not even the best short stop on his own team!

In this video, Bob Ryan discusses where Jeter ranks within the heady group of the 3,000 hit club. Ryan says Jeter is a better player than: Yaz, Molitor, Murray, Ripken, Biggio, Brock, Palmiero, Kaline, Boggs. I think he is also plainly better than Yount (this one had to be an oversight on Ryan's part), Winfield, Henderson, and Rose. (BTW: Notice, I am being 100% serious with this analysis).

BTW, with the exception of Palmiero (a dirty Bird cheater), these guys are all first ballot HOFers. :thumb:
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bluehenbillk wrote:
JoltinJoe wrote:

In this video, Bob Ryan discusses where Jeter ranks within the heady group of the 3,000 hit club. Ryan says Jeter is a better player than: Yaz, Molitor, Murray, Ripken, Biggio, Brock, Palmiero, Kaline, Boggs. I think he is also plainly better than Yount (this one had to be an oversight on Ryan's part), Winfield, Henderson, and Rose. (BTW: Notice, I am being 100% serious with this analysis).

BTW, with the exception of Palmiero (a dirty Bird cheater), these guys are all first ballot HOFers. :thumb:
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Who is the Hit King? Are you talking about that guy with 14,053 at bats? I call him the At Bat King. :lol:

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Jeter may well be the first member of the 3,000 hit club to be worth a HOF snub. The Wizard of Oz he is NOT.

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SuperHornet wrote:Jeter may well be the first member of the 3,000 hit club to be worth a HOF snub. The Wizard of Oz he is NOT.

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Yup, the Wizard doesn't have five World Series rings.

And there are two members of the 3000 hit who have been deservedly snubbed: the At Bat King ( :rofl: ) and Rafael Palmiero. Jeter, on the other hand, goes in with over 95% on the first ballot. :lol:
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JoltinJoe wrote:
andy7171 wrote:What's with all the HOF talk, he's not even the best short stop on his own team!

In this video, Bob Ryan discusses where Jeter ranks within the heady group of the 3,000 hit club. Ryan says Jeter is a better player than: Yaz, Molitor, Murray, Ripken, Biggio, Brock, Palmiero, Kaline, Boggs. I think he is also plainly better than Yount (this one had to be an oversight on Ryan's part), Winfield, Henderson, and Rose. (BTW: Notice, I am being 100% serious with this analysis).

BTW, with the exception of Palmiero (a dirty Bird cheater), these guys are all first ballot HOFers. :thumb:
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I would take any one of those guys (with the exception maybe Boggs or Biggio) before I'd take Jeter. And I'm 100% serious as well. In THAT list, Jeter is way down the list IMHO.
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Jeter is an all time great. A true living legend of baseball. Any talk otherwise is garbage.
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AZGrizFan wrote:
JoltinJoe wrote:

In this video, Bob Ryan discusses where Jeter ranks within the heady group of the 3,000 hit club. Ryan says Jeter is a better player than: Yaz, Molitor, Murray, Ripken, Biggio, Brock, Palmiero, Kaline, Boggs. I think he is also plainly better than Yount (this one had to be an oversight on Ryan's part), Winfield, Henderson, and Rose. (BTW: Notice, I am being 100% serious with this analysis).

BTW, with the exception of Palmiero (a dirty Bird cheater), these guys are all first ballot HOFers. :thumb:
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I would take any one of those guys (with the exception maybe Boggs or Biggio) before I'd take Jeter. And I'm 100% serious as well. In THAT list, Jeter is way down the list IMHO.
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Great piece on Jeter. http://espn.go.com/mlb/blog/_/name/star ... -3000-hits
STRIKE ONE -- JUST 17 DEPT.

He arrived in the big leagues on May 29, 1995. He arrived to stay in September 1995. So this is only Jeter's 17th season in the major leagues. And you know how many players since 1900 have reached 3,000 hits in 17 seasons or fewer?

Just five -- and now him.

See if you've heard of these other five men:

Pete Rose, Stan Musial, Hank Aaron, Ty Cobb and Paul Waner.

And if you'd like to see how many hits some other great players had in their first 17 big league seasons, check out this list at baseball-reference.com. It was a list that really put this feat in perspective for me.
STRIKE TWO -- THE 190-HIT CLUB

Take a look at Jeter's career numbers. Now check out the hit column. Maybe Jeter didn't quite crank out 190 hits or more in every season of his career. But it was close.

He's done it 10 times already. And the list of players who have had 10 seasons of at least 190 hits since 1900 is another very cool group. Here it is, according to Lee Sinins' Complete Baseball Encyclopedia:

1. Pete Rose, 13
2. Ty Cobb, 12
T3. Stan Musial, 10
T3. Derek Jeter, 10
T3. Ichiro Suzuki, 10

If you're hanging around with those dudes, you could hit, friends. It's that simple.

But this guy wasn't just slapping singles for all those years. If you want to limit the list to seasons of 190 hits and a .400 slugging percentage, only Rose, Cobb, Musial and Jeter had at least 10 years like that.

And how many other players had at least 10 seasons with 190 hits, plus double figures in both home runs and stolen bases?

Not ONE.

Just Derek Jeter.

You could look it up.
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DJH wrote:Jeter is an all time great. A true living legend of baseball. Any talk otherwise is garbage.
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What's your argument otherwise? He's got the stats, the wins, the titles, the longevity.
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Those titles were bought, and you know it. Put Jeter on the Washington Senators, and he doesn't get a WHIFF of the Hall.
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Give him zero titles, and he is still absolutely a no doubt hall of famer.
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SuperHornet wrote:Those titles were bought, and you know it. Put Jeter on the Washington Senators, and he doesn't get a WHIFF of the Hall.
Put Pete Rose on the Reds, and HE doesn't get a whiff of the Hall.
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There's no way he compares to the likes of Smith, Concepcion, Wagner, Reese, Ripken, Maranville, Yount, Larkin, Trammell, or dozens of others.
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DJH wrote:Give him zero titles, and he is still absolutely a no doubt hall of famer.
:nod:

The fact that he porked Jessica Biel ALONE is enough to get him there.

And it's good to see SH employing his usual "run his keyboard without having the slightest clue" strategy on this one. :coffee:
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SuperHornet wrote:There's no way he compares to the likes of Smith, Concepcion, Wagner, Reese, Ripken, Maranville, Yount, Larkin, Trammell, or dozens of others.
I agree with 100%. Comparing Jeter to any of those is asinine.

Jeter's much better than any of them (except Wagner). :thumb:
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SuperHornet wrote:There's no way he compares to the likes of Smith, Concepcion, Wagner, Reese, Ripken, Maranville, Yount, Larkin, Trammell, or dozens of others.
He does compare. In fact, he surpasses most of them in almost every statistical category, or any other way you want to measure it, other than in your little fantasy land.
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Grizalltheway wrote:
DJH wrote:Give him zero titles, and he is still absolutely a no doubt hall of famer.
:nod:

The fact that he porked Jessica Biel ALONE is enough to get him there.
Plus, he did this.

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Yup. First ballot Poon HOFer. :notworthy:
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