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World Series is Red Sox free, Yankee free, Phillie free.... Fox must be freaking right now...

Both AL markets left are sizable. They sure as hell don't want Milwaukee in the WS though.

They had to be freaking before then though - ratings for the TBS games have been dismal, even with those teams and markets. While baseball is doing great overall, it just isn't pulling in national tv numbers.

When it comes to ratings, it's the Yankees, followed by the Yankees, then the Yankees, then the Red Sox and then Phila.

The World Series ratings will suck this year, but they would have anyway, there is too much other stuff to watch these days.

GannonFan wrote:They had to be freaking before then though - ratings for the TBS games have been dismal, even with those teams and markets. While baseball is doing great overall, it just isn't pulling in national tv numbers.

The MNF games the past two years (neither intriguing) have doubled the market share of the divisonal series avg. Heard that on The Herd last week.

Baseball hasn't really been the national pasttime since maybe the mid 70s it seems.

93henfan wrote:

GannonFan wrote:They had to be freaking before then though - ratings for the TBS games have been dismal, even with those teams and markets. While baseball is doing great overall, it just isn't pulling in national tv numbers.

The MNF games the past two years (neither intriguing) have doubled the market share of the divisonal series avg. Heard that on The Herd last week.

Baseball hasn't really been the national pasttime since maybe the mid 70s it seems.

Agreed - you get the cities of the teams playing who watch and then nothing else. Baseball's doing fine, but it's just become very provincial.

I think a large portion of the country has simply tuned out because they know their team can't realistically hope to compete with the Yanks, Phils, BoSox etc.

Pittsburgh was absolutely bubbly over a Bucs team that topped .500 for a bit and then back to an empty, beautiful ballpark.

All-Midwest LCS and WS?

Yes please!!!

MSUDuo wrote:All-Midwest LCS and WS?

Yes please!!!

Be sure to post and let the rest of the country know how it all turned out. We'll be watching other stuff.

MSUDuo wrote:All-Midwest LCS and WS?

Yes please!!!

Good luck!

But Fox is pissed.

93henfan wrote:I think a large portion of the country has simply tuned out because they know their team can't realistically hope to compete with the Yanks, Phils, BoSox etc.

Pittsburgh was absolutely bubbly over a Bucs team that topped .500 for a bit and then back to an empty, beautiful ballpark.

The teams thart spend will contend every year, they won't always win, but they will be in the mix. The other teams have to hope for lightning in a bottle.

The MLB economic model sucks, I am glad I cheer for one of the "haves", but I'd rather see a more equitable set up.

FOX cancelled Firefly, so any and all situations that cause them grief make me happy.
(plus I frickin hate the Yankees and Redsox)

JayJ79 wrote:FOX cancelled Firefly, so any and all situations that cause them grief make me happy.
(plus I frickin hate the Yankees and Redsox)

Wow, that's twice in two days that I've agreed with you. Firefly was a good show, and I also hate the Yanks and Bosox.

JayJ79 wrote:FOX cancelled Firefly, so any and all situations that cause them grief make me happy.
(plus I frickin hate the Yankees and Redsox)

**** Fox. And **** Syfy for NOT picking up the show when it was ripe for the taking.

JayJ79 wrote:FOX cancelled Firefly, so any and all situations that cause them grief make me happy.
(plus I frickin hate the Yankees and Redsox)

FUCK. Andy will be pissed.

93henfan wrote:

MSUDuo wrote:All-Midwest LCS and WS?

Yes please!!!

Be sure to post and let the rest of the country know how it all turned out. We'll be watching other stuff.

I'm reminded of the 2006 World Series. I saw Detroit win Game 1...then didn't hear a damn thing about it after that, didn't watch, didn't remember any commercials or hype on ESPN about watching the game...then about two weeks later I read in the paper that the Cards won.

I DO remember an article on ESPN.com saying "Did you hear that the Cardinals won the World Series?"

93henfan wrote:

MSUDuo wrote:All-Midwest LCS and WS?

Yes please!!!

Be sure to post and let the rest of the country know how it all turned out. We'll be watching other stuff.

Honestly don't care if you watch or not...

It always amazes me how focused on ratings people get.

LDS ratings have been bad for one big reason... it's on fucking TBS... why the fuck does TBS have baseball at all? jeebus - that network should have 1800 Tyler Perry sitcoms and re-runs of the Drew Carey Show and that's about it.

Personally - as a big baseball fan... I don't even HAVE TBS (I have a REALLY small cable setup - local channels and MLB/NHL/NFL/NBA Networks) - so I had to listen to the games on ESPN Radio... (Berman... ugh)

Moreover - MLB will never draw NFL's ratings, and people need to just collectively get over it... MLB is the #3 sport in this country (behind NFL and BCS) and considering that MLB has had great attendance, and is making money hand over fist despite this economy... honestly, who gives a shit about anything else?

More to the point... this post-season (starting with the last week of the regular season) has been just about the best I can remember... 3 great LDS series... wow... and the LCS's should be great - with the favorites out... it's WIDE OPEN.

You guys are thinking CBS and ESPN. Losing the bloody Yankees is no sweat for Fox. The thing that they're probably griping about is no Trolley Dodgers and no Angels. Remember that Fox is based in LA....

MSUDuo wrote:

93henfan wrote:
Be sure to post and let the rest of the country know how it all turned out. We'll be watching other stuff.

Honestly don't care if you watch or not...

Which is exactly how you should feel. It's unlikely that the ratings will ever be bad enough that the games won't be televised. Fox was PO'd when the Yankees lost, I'm not losing any sleep over that and neither should you.

SuperHornet wrote:You guys are thinking CBS and ESPN. Losing the bloody Yankees is no sweat for Fox. The thing that they're probably griping about is no Trolley Dodgers and no Angels. Remember that Fox is based in LA....

Wrong. The Yankees are ratings kings. There is a significant drop from the Yankees to the next team as far as ratings go.

BlueHen86 wrote:

SuperHornet wrote:You guys are thinking CBS and ESPN. Losing the bloody Yankees is no sweat for Fox. The thing that they're probably griping about is no Trolley Dodgers and no Angels. Remember that Fox is based in LA....

Wrong. The Yankees are ratings kings. There is a significant drop from the Yankees to the next team as far as ratings go.

Well ratings wise it isnt really the Yankees killing everyone.

Talking specifically the rating the Yankees dont even rank in the top 10 for the 2011 season for the mlb RSN ratings.

The Phillies topped the list this season. I cant find the final rankings for 2010, but from 2004 thru 2009 the Red Sox were the highest rated team.

Talking total viewers the Yankees led the way in 2011 averaging 319,000 viewers per game on YES while the Phillies averaged 276,000 per game. The Yankees number was down 5% from 2010 and the Phillies up 16%, the Red Sox finished third in total viewers with 176,000.

The top 5 rating teams were

Philadelphia CSN 9.12 (+10.5%)
St. Louis FS Midwest 9.00 (-4.5%)
Milwaukee FS Wisconsin 7.95 (+59.0%)
Boston NESN 7.80 (+31.1%)
Cincinnati FS Ohio 7.44 (-0.5%)

The botton 5 were

Houston FS Houston 1.51 (-40.3%)
Oakland CSN California 1.24 (+5.1%)
Washington MASN/MASN2 1.22 (-4.7%)
Los Angeles Angels FS West 1.14 (-5.8%)
Los Angeles Dodgers FS Prime Ticket 1.14 (-30.1%)

MSUDuo wrote:

93henfan wrote:
Be sure to post and let the rest of the country know how it all turned out. We'll be watching other stuff.

Honestly don't care if you watch or not...

UNHWildCats wrote:

BlueHen86 wrote:
Wrong. The Yankees are ratings kings. There is a significant drop from the Yankees to the next team as far as ratings go.

Well ratings wise it isnt really the Yankees killing everyone.

Talking specifically the rating the Yankees dont even rank in the top 10 for the 2011 season for the mlb RSN ratings.

The Phillies topped the list this season. I cant find the final rankings for 2010, but from 2004 thru 2009 the Red Sox were the highest rated team.

Talking total viewers the Yankees led the way in 2011 averaging 319,000 viewers per game on YES while the Phillies averaged 276,000 per game. The Yankees number was down 5% from 2010 and the Phillies up 16%, the Red Sox finished third in total viewers with 176,000.

The top 5 rating teams were

Philadelphia CSN 9.12 (+10.5%)
St. Louis FS Midwest 9.00 (-4.5%)
Milwaukee FS Wisconsin 7.95 (+59.0%)
Boston NESN 7.80 (+31.1%)
Cincinnati FS Ohio 7.44 (-0.5%)

The botton 5 were

Houston FS Houston 1.51 (-40.3%)
Oakland CSN California 1.24 (+5.1%)
Washington MASN/MASN2 1.22 (-4.7%)
Los Angeles Angels FS West 1.14 (-5.8%)
Los Angeles Dodgers FS Prime Ticket 1.14 (-30.1%)

don't be thick...

he's not talking about LOCAL tv ratings...

this is about NATIONAL tv ratings. New York is a HUGE market - and the Yankees have a huge national following... the only thing that could rival it at this point would be the Cubs making a run.

I don't like it, but the Yankees draw a lot of eyeballs that wouldn't otherwise watch - and you look at World Series ratings when the Yankees are there and when they aren't... there's a big difference. (I don't think it MATTERS, but that's just me)

TwinTownBisonFan wrote: the only thing that could rival it at this point would be the Cubs making a run.