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The #1 pick is now basically the Colts to lose...and all the talk about my Dolphins "tanking" can be put to rest.

Colts 0-10
Dolphins 2-7
Rams 2-7
Panthers 2-7
Eagles 3-6
Cardinals 3-6

Does anyone here realistically expect Luck to actually sign with Indy?

SuperHornet wrote:Does anyone here realistically expect Luck to actually sign with Indy?

You should probably ask Peyton Manning's neck.

93henfan wrote:

SuperHornet wrote:Does anyone here realistically expect Luck to actually sign with Indy?

You should probably ask Peyton Manning's neck.

1. Manning expects to be back THIS year. Even if he's not, he will likely try to get cleared for next year.
2. The organization has clearly skated by on Manning for years, thereby ignoring everything else, particularly both lines. If they don't address that, then they don't have a clear commitment to winning beyond keeping Manning fiscally happy.
3. Given those facts, one could easily see Luck demanding a trade.

SuperHornet wrote:

93henfan wrote:
You should probably ask Peyton Manning's neck.

1. Manning expects to be back THIS year. Even if he's not, he will likely try to get cleared for next year.
2. The organization has clearly skated by on Manning for years, thereby ignoring everything else, particularly both lines. If they don't address that, then they don't have a clear commitment to winning beyond keeping Manning fiscally happy.
3. Given those facts, one could easily see Luck demanding a trade.

You're dumb. The one ring Manning has is largely thanks to his defense playing lights-out in the playoffs.

Grizalltheway wrote:

SuperHornet wrote:
1. Manning expects to be back THIS year. Even if he's not, he will likely try to get cleared for next year.
2. The organization has clearly skated by on Manning for years, thereby ignoring everything else, particularly both lines. If they don't address that, then they don't have a clear commitment to winning beyond keeping Manning fiscally happy.
3. Given those facts, one could easily see Luck demanding a trade.

You're dumb. The one ring Manning has is largely thanks to his defense playing lights-out in the playoffs.

Yep....and look where this team is without him.

I'm not saying they'd be 10-0 with him, but they'd probably be a 6-7 win team.

SuperHornet wrote:3. Given those facts, one could easily see Luck demanding a trade.

On the other hand, Luck may see the obvious upside in getting paid millions of dollars to just sit on the bench.

Mvemjsunpx wrote:

SuperHornet wrote:3. Given those facts, one could easily see Luck demanding a trade.

On the other hand, Luck may see the obvious upside in getting paid millions of dollars to just sit on the bench.

...or the unlikely chance he comes back to Stanford for his 4th year.

Gil Dobie wrote:

Mvemjsunpx wrote:
On the other hand, Luck may see the obvious upside in getting paid millions of dollars to just sit on the bench.

...or the unlikely chance he comes back to Stanford for his 4th year.

5th year, redshirted his freshman year. Plus maybe he REALLY wants to try to win a BCS (national) title with Stanford and the Heisman if he doesn't get it this year. If you were him would you want to go to the Colts right now? At least with the Panthers they have a few bright spots when Cam went there...what do the Colts have that's a positive?

Looking at the Colts schedule - they only have two games they will even be close in...

next week is their bye week - then they have Carolina - that's winnable... and in week 17 they have the Jags again...

other than that - their other remaining games
Pittsburgh
New England
Houston
Tennessee

I think their best possible record is 2-14...

DSUrocks07 wrote:

Gil Dobie wrote:
...or the unlikely chance he comes back to Stanford for his 4th year.

5th year, redshirted his freshman year. Plus maybe he REALLY wants to try to win a BCS (national) title with Stanford and the Heisman if he doesn't get it this year. If you were him would you want to go to the Colts right now? At least with the Panthers they have a few bright spots when Cam went there...what do the Colts have that's a positive?

Sounds like he has a lot in common with Peyton, stay for senior year to win title and Heisman and then win neither.

I hope Luck bombs


Just because of how hilarious that would be

Silenoz wrote:I hope Luck bombs


Just because of how hilarious that would be

He's the greatest prospect ever...until the next one.

So much hype no wonder many of these wunderkinds flop. I don't think Peyton had as much hype as this kid does. Wasn't Leaf the "perfect prospect" that year?

DSUrocks07 wrote:

Silenoz wrote:I hope Luck bombs


Just because of how hilarious that would be

He's the greatest prospect ever...until the next one.

So much hype no wonder many of these wunderkinds flop. I don't think Peyton had as much hype as this kid does. Wasn't Leaf the "perfect prospect" that year?

Leaf was selected second behind Manning, but Leaf was more hyped than him, IIRC (and I was 10 at the time, so don't hold me to that ).

Grizalltheway wrote:

DSUrocks07 wrote:
He's the greatest prospect ever...until the next one.

So much hype no wonder many of these wunderkinds flop. I don't think Peyton had as much hype as this kid does. Wasn't Leaf the "perfect prospect" that year?

Leaf was selected second behind Manning, but Leaf was more hyped than him, IIRC (and I was 10 at the time, so don't hold me to that ).

Leaf had the hype and big numbers, Peyton's hype was crushed cuz the Vols didn't win the title and Woodson beat him for the Heisman.

tampajag wrote:

Grizalltheway wrote:
Leaf was selected second behind Manning, but Leaf was more hyped than him, IIRC (and I was 10 at the time, so don't hold me to that ).

Leaf had the hype and big numbers, Peyton's hype was crushed cuz the Vols didn't win the title and Woodson beat him for the Heisman.

I remembered that he lost in the Bowl game that year and didn't look good doing it either

tampajag wrote:

Grizalltheway wrote:
Leaf was selected second behind Manning, but Leaf was more hyped than him, IIRC (and I was 10 at the time, so don't hold me to that ).

Leaf had the hype and big numbers, Peyton's hype was crushed cuz the Vols didn't win the title and Woodson beat him for the Heisman.

You gotta throw Matt Leinart into this discussion of "what might have been".

ASUG8 wrote:

tampajag wrote: Leaf had the hype and big numbers, Peyton's hype was crushed cuz the Vols didn't win the title and Woodson beat him for the Heisman.

You gotta throw Matt Leinart into this discussion of "what might have been".

We will find out in the next couple weeks.

DSUrocks07 wrote:

tampajag wrote: Leaf had the hype and big numbers, Peyton's hype was crushed cuz the Vols didn't win the title and Woodson beat him for the Heisman.

I remembered that he lost in the Bowl game that year and didn't look good doing it either

Yep Nebraska worked him and to top it off he never beat Florida.

I heard on Colin Cowherd a few months back that there's a certain criteria to be successful QB in the NFL, 2 of which were 27 starts and 65% completion percentage in college. Most of the "big time" QBs meet that criteria and often the ones that don't and are hyped up are busts

youngterrier wrote:I heard on Colin Cowherd a few months back that there's a certain criteria to be successful QB in the NFL, 2 of which were 27 starts and 65% completion percentage in college. Most of the "big time" QBs meet that criteria and often the ones that don't and are hyped up are busts

Then explain the NFL starting QB who NEVER started a game in college.

SuperHornet wrote:

youngterrier wrote:I heard on Colin Cowherd a few months back that there's a certain criteria to be successful QB in the NFL, 2 of which were 27 starts and 65% completion percentage in college. Most of the "big time" QBs meet that criteria and often the ones that don't and are hyped up are busts

Then explain the NFL starting QB who NEVER started a game in college.

Outlier

SuperHornet wrote:

youngterrier wrote:I heard on Colin Cowherd a few months back that there's a certain criteria to be successful QB in the NFL, 2 of which were 27 starts and 65% completion percentage in college. Most of the "big time" QBs meet that criteria and often the ones that don't and are hyped up are busts

Then explain the NFL starting QB who NEVER started a game in college.

Ah yes....the Exception to the rule that proves the rule wrong....right?

How many QB's are in the NFL, and successful, that never started a college game?

He's the only one in recorded history to even exist