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10 yr 250M reportedly.

As a NL guy I'm glad to see him go to the AL.

Lotta money for him

bluehenbillk wrote: As a NL guy I'm glad to see him go to the AL.

Funny that you mentioned that, I'm having the exact opposite reaction....this sucks for every team in the American League.

And now its being reported that CJ Wilson will sign with the Angels.

...according to MLBTraderumors.com

I look at it as one less team the Phils have to worry about.

Is this out of left field? I thought it was Cubs or Cards resigning?

Makes sense for an AL team to land him. In 4-5 years he'll be a DH and be able to make it to the end of this contract in good condition.

DAMMIT... WHY CAN'T HE JUST STAY IN THE NL!?!

big coup for the Halos... that sound you heard was Arte Moreno selling A LOT of tickets...

dbackjon wrote:Lotta money for him

Won't look like it for a couple years, but those last 3-4 years on that contract are gonna be BRUTAL.

yep C.J. Wilson officially to the Halos too per ESPN.

bluehenbillk wrote:I look at it as one less team the Phils have to worry about.

That's the wrong way to look at it. That's $210M that the Cardinals can spend on players who will actually be able to play ten years from now. Albert's ankles are already shot and his number are clearly declining. Let the Angels try to win with that albatross of a contract hanging around their necks.

CitadelGrad wrote:

bluehenbillk wrote:I look at it as one less team the Phils have to worry about.

That's the wrong way to look at it. That's $210M that the Cardinals can spend on players who will actually be able to play ten years from now. Albert's ankles are already shot and his number are clearly declining. Let the Angels try to win with that albatross of a contract hanging around their necks.

Agreed. This contract might have made sense 4 years ago, but not now.

AZGrizFan wrote:

CitadelGrad wrote:
That's the wrong way to look at it. That's $210M that the Cardinals can spend on players who will actually be able to play ten years from now. Albert's ankles are already shot and his number are clearly declining. Let the Angels try to win with that albatross of a contract hanging around their necks.

Agreed. This contract might have made sense 4 years ago, but not now.

If he was in the NL, sure it would be a bad contract. In the AL, though, with him able to start full time DH'ing next year, it works. All he has to do is hit for the next 10 years and then sit on the bench for half that time while someone else is in the field. Perfect contract and team for him in that regard.

CitadelGrad wrote:

bluehenbillk wrote:I look at it as one less team the Phils have to worry about.

That's the wrong way to look at it. That's $210M that the Cardinals can spend on players who will actually be able to play ten years from now. Albert's ankles are already shot and his number are clearly declining. Let the Angels try to win with that albatross of a contract hanging around their necks.

Who's left to sign?

GannonFan wrote:

AZGrizFan wrote:
Agreed. This contract might have made sense 4 years ago, but not now.

If he was in the NL, sure it would be a bad contract. In the AL, though, with him able to start full time DH'ing next year, it works. All he has to do is hit for the next 10 years and then sit on the bench for half that time while someone else is in the field. Perfect contract and team for him in that regard.

Alberts last 4 years:

AB: 524, 568, 587, 579
BA: .357, .327, .312, .299
OBP: .462, .443, .414, .366
SLG: .653, .658, .596, .541
OPS: 1.114, 1.101, 1.011, .906
GIDP: 16, 23, 23, 29
BB: 104, 115, 103, 61
IBB: 34, 44, 38, 15
HR: 37, 47, 42, 37
RBI: 116, 135, 118, 99
2B: 44, 45, 39, 29
H: 187, 186, 183, 173
R: 100, 124, 115, 105
SB: 7, 16, 14, 9

There is not a single stat line of his that would lead to any indication he's not on the downhill side of his game. He's slower (GIDP, SB, 2B), less feared, (IBB), less selective (BB), less powerful (HR, SLG), less productive (OPS, RBI, R, H) and more injury-prone EACH year for the last four years.

Like I said, he might have 5 good years left, but there is definitely a trend (and not a good one) here that will make the last 3-5 years of that contract be what keeps the Angels out of the playoffs.

Less feared? I was scared as shit every time he came up in the NLDS, even against Halladay. He may be declining slightly, but like other people have said, the DH will help him immensely. And the last 4 years of the contract being brutal is determined by who's point of view. For the Angels front office, I bet they can't wait for those last 4 years since he will be chasing the homerun record. The amount of money from attendance and fan gear will offset the contract at that point. From a production standpoint, it may get ugly. This is of course assuming he doesn't get injured where it ruins his career.

Seahawks08 wrote:Less feared? I was scared as shit every time he came up in the NLDS, even against Halladay. He may be declining slightly, but like other people have said, the DH will help him immensely. And the last 4 years of the contract being brutal is determined by who's point of view. For the Angels front office, I bet they can't wait for those last 4 years since he will be chasing the homerun record. The amount of money from attendance and fan gear will offset the contract at that point. From a production standpoint, it may get ugly. This is of course assuming he doesn't get injured where it ruins his career.

He's a gamer, and I'd want him on my team. Just not by mortgaging the future of the organization.

That being said, the biggest mistake the Diamondbacks have made as an organization was NOT ponying up the additional $2 million to RJ so he could get his 300th in a Diamondbacks uni.

And I guess we can add this to the thread: CJ Wilson signed with the Angels for five years at $77.5 million.

http://twitter.com/#!/Buster_ESPN/statu ... 2052319232


So Angels 2012 = new dream team?

GannonFan wrote:

AZGrizFan wrote:
Agreed. This contract might have made sense 4 years ago, but not now.

If he was in the NL, sure it would be a bad contract. In the AL, though, with him able to start full time DH'ing next year, it works. All he has to do is hit for the next 10 years and then sit on the bench for half that time while someone else is in the field. Perfect contract and team for him in that regard.

Do you really want to pay a DH $25.4 million a year to hit maybe .300 for three or four years and probably .260 to .280 for another six to seven years? Screw that.

The joke is on Albert anyway. Given the difference in state taxes between Missouri and California, $22 million of taxable income in Missouri equates to $33 million in taxable income in California. Albert won't be making anywhere near $33 million a year under his new contract.

Pujols could have been one of those rare all-time greats of this era who played his entire career for one team. I'm not sure what the cash value of that is, but I guess it's less than $3 million a year.

LMAO at the Marlins!

Good luck to Albert. It would have been nice to see him finish his career in St. Loo, but simoleons speak louder than words.

Great news for Mariners fans; now, we don't even need to get our hopes up about making the playoffs.

Grizalltheway wrote:Great news for Mariners fans; now, we don't even need to get our hopes up about making the playoffs.

My niece, who lives near Seattle (so a Mariner fan), and is from the STL area (so Cardinal fan in the NL) is apoletic about this.

Seahawks08 wrote:And I guess we can add this to the thread: CJ Wilson signed with the Angels for five years at $77.5 million.

http://twitter.com/#!/Buster_ESPN/statu ... 2052319232


So Angels 2012 = new dream team?

Hasn't worked out for the last few dream teams.

CitadelGrad wrote:

GannonFan wrote:
If he was in the NL, sure it would be a bad contract. In the AL, though, with him able to start full time DH'ing next year, it works. All he has to do is hit for the next 10 years and then sit on the bench for half that time while someone else is in the field. Perfect contract and team for him in that regard.

Do you really want to pay a DH $25.4 million a year to hit maybe .300 for three or four years and probably .260 to .280 for another six to seven years? Screw that.

The joke is on Albert anyway. Given the difference in state taxes between Missouri and California, $22 million of taxable income in Missouri equates to $33 million in taxable income in California. Albert won't be making anywhere near $33 million a year under his new contract.

Even more puzzling is the reports by several outlets that the Marlins upped their offer to $275 million with no state income tax in Florida.. so he left 20-25 million in actual income on the table along with massive amounts he will pay in state taxes to sign with the Angels.