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Hall of Fame Worthy? Discuss....

Anyone who ever played for the Yankees is HOF-worthy. Didn't you get the memo?

93henfan wrote:Anyone who ever played for the Yankees is HOF-worthy. Didn't you get the memo?

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All-Time Rank (among Batters):
#239. Ken Singleton
#240. Jack Glasscock
#241. Monte Ward
#242. JORGE POSADA
#243. George Kell
#244. Red Schoendienst

The next catcher to go into the Hall will be THIS guy:

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Bill Lumbergh wrote:Posada sits at #9 on the all time HR list for catchers, past Roy Campanella. He'll get consideration for sure.

He will get in. Hell, you only have 85 years to get into the HOF of baseball. What a joke. If you don't get selected by the 3rd time your name appears on the ballot you don't get in.

Congrats on your retirement - and in honor of it for one last time - F you Jorge.

CAA Flagship wrote:Hall of Fame Worthy? Discuss....

No.

He is a catcher, so that should help him.

However, the fact that he's a Yankee is what dooms him, since Yankees are held to different standards than other former players.

Posada's HOF monitor score is 98. A likely HOFer scores 100 on the HOF monitor score. So Posada is close and would get consideration if he played for any other team than the Yankees. I say this because a score of 130 or more is considered a "lock" for the HOF. There are only two former players without steroid taint eligible for the Hall who have a score of 130 or more who have not been elected to the Hall of Fame: Don Mattingly and Bernie Williams.

Pretty apparent that different standards get applied to Yankees.

JoltinJoe wrote:He is a catcher, so that should help him.

However, the fact that he's a Yankee is what dooms him, since Yankees are held to different standards than other former players.

Posada's HOF monitor score is 98. A likely HOFer scores 100 on the HOF monitor score. So Posada is close and would get consideration if he played for any other team than the Yankees. I say this because a score of 130 or more is considered a "lock" for the HOF. There are only two former players without steroid taint eligible for the Hall who have a score of 130 or more who have not been elected to the Hall of Fame: Don Mattingly and Bernie Williams.

Pretty apparent that different standards get applied to Yankees.

Hip Hip Jorge

JoltinJoe wrote:There are only two former players without steroid taint eligible for the Hall who have a score of 130 or more who have not been elected to the Hall of Fame: Don Mattingly and Bernie Williams.

Pete Rose you liar.

BTW, Steve Garvey is at 130 too. Double liar.

89Hen wrote:

JoltinJoe wrote:There are only two former players without steroid taint eligible for the Hall who have a score of 130 or more who have not been elected to the Hall of Fame: Don Mattingly and Bernie Williams.

Pete Rose you liar.

Not "eligible" for the Hall ...

AZGrizFan wrote:

JoltinJoe wrote:He is a catcher, so that should help him.

However, the fact that he's a Yankee is what dooms him, since Yankees are held to different standards than other former players.

Posada's HOF monitor score is 98. A likely HOFer scores 100 on the HOF monitor score. So Posada is close and would get consideration if he played for any other team than the Yankees. I say this because a score of 130 or more is considered a "lock" for the HOF. There are only two former players without steroid taint eligible for the Hall who have a score of 130 or more who have not been elected to the Hall of Fame: Don Mattingly and Bernie Williams.

Pretty apparent that different standards get applied to Yankees.

Kirby Puckett's stats are inferior to Mattingly, and yet Puckett was elected on the first ballot.

JoltinJoe wrote:Not "eligible" for the Hall ...

Not what you said.

JoltinJoe wrote:There are only two former players without steroid taint eligible for the Hall who have a score of 130 or more who have not been elected to the Hall of Fame: Don Mattingly and Bernie Williams.

Pretty apparent that different standards get applied to Yankees.

Steve Garvey.

89Hen wrote:

JoltinJoe wrote:Not "eligible" for the Hall ...

Not what you said.

JoltinJoe wrote:There are only two former players without steroid taint eligible for the Hall who have a score of 130 or more who have not been elected to the Hall of Fame: Don Mattingly and Bernie Williams.

Pretty apparent that different standards get applied to Yankees.

Steve Garvey.

I did say "eligible" for the Hall.

But as to Garvey, I shoudl have said "more than 130." A score of more than 130 is considered a lock. Garvey is at 130.

(Although I've always said Garvey belongs )

JoltinJoe wrote:There are only two former players without steroid taint eligible for the Hall who have a score of 130 or more who have not been elected to the Hall of Fame: Don Mattingly and Bernie Williams.

Pretty apparent that different standards get applied to Yankees.

Really? When did Steve Garvey (score of 130) play for the Yankees? OR was he tainted by steroids?
How about Edgar Martinez (130)? Larry Walker (147)? Jeff Bagwell (150)?

I must have missed those trades to the Yankees...

Yes, catchers are measured against each other in their era and not against other players. Ivan Rodriguez and Mike Piazza are certainly ahead of him. But he has 5 AS appearances, 5 Silver Sluggers, finished 3rd and 6th in MVP voting, and 5 Rings. I think it is close, but probably no cigar.

AZGrizFan wrote:

JoltinJoe wrote:There are only two former players without steroid taint eligible for the Hall who have a score of 130 or more who have not been elected to the Hall of Fame: Don Mattingly and Bernie Williams.

Pretty apparent that different standards get applied to Yankees.

Really? When did Steve Garvey (score of 130) play for the Yankees? OR was he tainted by steroids?
How about Edgar Martinez (130)? Larry Walker (147)? Jeff Bagwell (150)?

I must have missed those trades to the Yankees...

I think Walker and Bagwell have steroid suspicions. But both will eventually make it, I think.
Neither Martinez or Garvey's HOF is more than 130.

So now it's MORE than 130, steroid suspicion, gambling issue, lived in the south or was ever married to a hispanic woman... gotcha.

BTW, the real travesty is Dick Groat. He is the only player with more than 100 named Dick that hasn't gotten in.

JoltinJoe wrote:

AZGrizFan wrote:
Really? When did Steve Garvey (score of 130) play for the Yankees? OR was he tainted by steroids?
How about Edgar Martinez (130)? Larry Walker (147)? Jeff Bagwell (150)?

I must have missed those trades to the Yankees...

I think Walker and Bagwell have steroid suspicions. But both will eventually make it, I think.
Neither Martinez or Garvey's HOF is more than 130.

ANd I suspect Posada and Williams of using steroids.

JoltinJoe wrote:

AZGrizFan wrote:

Kirby Puckett's stats are inferior to Mattingly, and yet Puckett was elected on the first ballot.

It's not all about stats there Mr. SABR Geek.

AZGrizFan wrote:

JoltinJoe wrote:
I think Walker and Bagwell have steroid suspicions. But both will eventually make it, I think.
Neither Martinez or Garvey's HOF is more than 130.

ANd I suspect Posada and Williams of using steroids.

You crossed the line Z. I'm not posting any sexual chocolate pictures for you anymore.