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SuperHornet wrote:The Dodgers turned the first 2-5-6-3 triple play involving an out on all the numbered bases since the 1800s without an attempt to run out of it due to an officiating goof. With men on first and second and none out in the 9th, the Padres batter squared around to bunt, but pulled back from the inside pitch. The pitch struck the bat and dropped to the ground. The home plate ump appeared to signal a foul ball, but never vocalized it. The runners stayed put on the bags while the Dodger catcher started the easiest triple play in history. The Pads argued to no avail. Replays later showed that the batted ball hit the ground BEHIND home plate, making it indeed foul. The Dodgers went on to win 5-4 in the bottom of the 9th.

Stupid umps.



http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mlb-big-l ... NPcM0RvLYF

SDHornet wrote:Ump signalled foul twice. He blew it. Once the ball was called dead due to his (multiple) foul ball signals, there is no way he can signal fair ball after that.

SuperHornet wrote:

SDHornet wrote:Ump signalled foul twice. He blew it. Once the ball was called dead due to his (multiple) foul ball signals, there is no way he can signal fair ball after that.

Additionally, having seen the replay, it CLEARLY landed between the plate and the catcher. It was FOUL.

SuperHornet wrote:

SDHornet wrote:Ump signalled foul twice. He blew it. Once the ball was called dead due to his (multiple) foul ball signals, there is no way he can signal fair ball after that.

Additionally, having seen the replay, it CLEARLY landed between the plate and the catcher. It was FOUL.

clenz wrote:

SuperHornet wrote:


Additionally, having seen the replay, it CLEARLY landed between the plate and the catcher. It was FOUL.

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clenz wrote:It, actually is not I.


I do have about 80 lolcays saved on my phone to pull out when I feel like it.....I've been using them for years


Seriously though, sh, explain how the balk hitting behind home plate makes it foul

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grizzaholic wrote:

clenz wrote:It, actually is not I.


I do have about 80 lolcays saved on my phone to pull out when I feel like it.....I've been using them for years


Seriously though, sh, explain how the balk hitting behind home plate makes it foul

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If it is a BALK, shouldn't the runners advance automatically?

SDHornet wrote:

grizzaholic wrote:
If it is a BALK, shouldn't the runners advance automatically?

I think he meant "ball". Clearly the SCH-1500 with Tapatalk has a poor spellcheck function.

“After review and discussion with the umpire, we have determined that the call itself of a fair ball was correct,” said Peter Woodfork, MLB’s Senior Vice President of Baseball Operations in an e-mail to UT San Diego columnist Tim Sullivan.

“However, while making the call, there was an incorrect mechanic, which appeared to confuse San Diego’s base runners. At no time did the umpire verbally kill the play on the field.

“After reviewing the entire situation following the game, the umpire realizes his hands were in an exaggerated upward appearance similar to a call that would indicate a dead ball.

“While we all agree that it was a fair ball that did not hit the batter, the umpire recognizes that the proper mechanic was not executed as he tried to avoid the catcher.”

“Throwing his hands up like that, shouldn’t that automatically kill the play like an inadvertent whistle in football?” said Padre Chase Headley, who was on first when Javy Guerra’s high inside fastball caught Jesus Guzman’s bat – the ball eventually rolling from foul to fair territory which triggered the play.

“If he makes no signal, we’re running.”

Scott first raised his hands as he was backing away from the plate to get out of the way of Dodger catcher A.J. Ellis. It was then, however, that he moved his arms higher and threw his palms open – baseball’s silent signal for time out.

SDHornet wrote:

“After review and discussion with the umpire, we have determined that the call itself of a fair ball was correct,” said Peter Woodfork, MLB’s Senior Vice President of Baseball Operations in an e-mail to UT San Diego columnist Tim Sullivan.

“However, while making the call, there was an incorrect mechanic, which appeared to confuse San Diego’s base runners. At no time did the umpire verbally kill the play on the field.

“After reviewing the entire situation following the game, the umpire realizes his hands were in an exaggerated upward appearance similar to a call that would indicate a dead ball.

“While we all agree that it was a fair ball that did not hit the batter, the umpire recognizes that the proper mechanic was not executed as he tried to avoid the catcher.”

“Throwing his hands up like that, shouldn’t that automatically kill the play like an inadvertent whistle in football?” said Padre Chase Headley, who was on first when Javy Guerra’s high inside fastball caught Jesus Guzman’s bat – the ball eventually rolling from foul to fair territory which triggered the play.

“If he makes no signal, we’re running.”

Scott first raised his hands as he was backing away from the plate to get out of the way of Dodger catcher A.J. Ellis. It was then, however, that he moved his arms higher and threw his palms open – baseball’s silent signal for time out.

http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2012/apr ... play-call/

SDHornet wrote:Not sure what happens when the ump verbalized fair but his inital hand signal is dead ball. If the runners thought the ball was still in play they would have been running.

bluehenbillk wrote:

SDHornet wrote:Not sure what happens when the ump verbalized fair but his inital hand signal is dead ball. If the runners thought the ball was still in play they would have been running.

That should never happen as a fair ball is only verbalized on a home run call. If there is any doubt on a live ball being fair or foul, a fair ball is demonstrated by a proper arm signal, a foul ball is supposed to be verbalized for all to hear.